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Keystone XL CEO - Pipe Stall Could be Grim
« on: November 02, 2011, 12:27:07 PM »
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With his company under siege over its Keystone XL pipeline project, TransCanada Corp. chief executive Russ Girling painted a grim picture Tuesday of what a delay could mean for his company, the United States and Canada.

Mr. Girling offered in a conference call to discuss TransCanada's third-quarter results an unusually candid assessment of the consequences of a delay. He did so on the same day as the State of Nebraska started a special session to alter the pipeline's route away from environmentally sensitive areas, and U.S. President Barack Obama suggested it could be "several months" before he decides whether to approve the pipeline. Mr. Obama said environmental concerns would weigh just as significantly in his ruling as U.S. energy security or economic growth.

Mr. Girling's assessment confirms what the environmental movement has been saying all along about Keystone XL, which links deposits in Alberta to U.S. Gulf Coast refineries: Stalling it restrains the growth of the oil sands. Among the consequences of a delay:

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O rly.  So.  He's The Decider now?  I'm ..... at a loss for words.
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Re: Keystone XL CEO - Pipe Stall Could be Grim
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2011, 12:37:52 PM »
That's right . Stymie reserves the final okay to himself . How's that for an "Imperial Presidency" ?

By the way ... When the fvck did he get that authority ?

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Re: Keystone XL CEO - Pipe Stall Could be Grim
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2011, 12:42:01 PM »

You said it, "Imperial Authority"


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Re: Keystone XL CEO - Pipe Stall Could be Grim
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2011, 02:22:59 PM »
I'm waiting for some brave state to offer protection to some brave company, and to simply defy orders from the federal government unless they come directly from a law passed by the legislature and signed by the president. We need to get to the point when people openly refuse to recognize edicts as authoritative, and force the federal government to attempt to find legal justification for prosecution.
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Re: Keystone XL CEO - Pipe Stall Could be Grim
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2011, 02:28:04 PM »

That could be a tipping point.


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Re: Keystone XL CEO - Pipe Stall Could be Grim
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2011, 02:35:35 PM »
I'm waiting for some brave state to offer protection to some brave company, and to simply defy orders from the federal government unless they come directly from a law passed by the legislature and signed by the president. We need to get to the point when people openly refuse to recognize edicts as authoritative, and force the federal government to attempt to find legal justification for prosecution.

Sheriffs have the authority to do it; with States' backing, they'd be golden.

If this will cause the tip, I'd like to see it begin.  We really can't endure much more of this.
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Re: Keystone XL CEO - Pipe Stall Could be Grim
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2011, 07:12:39 AM »
I'm waiting for some brave state to offer protection to some brave company, and to simply defy orders from the federal government unless they come directly from a law passed by the legislature and signed by the president. We need to get to the point when people openly refuse to recognize edicts as authoritative, and force the federal government to attempt to find legal justification for prosecution.

Sheriffs have the authority to do it; with States' backing, they'd be golden.

If this will cause the tip, I'd like to see it begin.  We really can't endure much more of this.

Push it, hard!

I'd love to see Stymie standing before the heavy machinery...hands outstreached to stop the machines...
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2011, 09:00:18 AM »
I'm waiting for some brave state to offer protection to some brave company, and to simply defy orders from the federal government unless they come directly from a law passed by the legislature and signed by the president. We need to get to the point when people openly refuse to recognize edicts as authoritative, and force the federal government to attempt to find legal justification for prosecution.

Sheriffs have the authority to do it; with States' backing, they'd be golden.

If this will cause the tip, I'd like to see it begin.  We really can't endure much more of this.

Push it, hard!

I'd love to see Stymie standing before the heavy machinery...hands outstreached to stop the machines...


And I'd love to see a Rachel Corrie moment.
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Re: Keystone XL CEO - Pipe Stall Could be Grim
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2011, 09:38:02 AM »
Now would be a great time for the dumbest President in history to give a speech, whining about how we don't build anything, anymore. A real rocket surgeon our boy president is. 

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Re: Keystone XL CEO - Pipe Stall Could be Grim
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2011, 09:41:09 AM »
I'm waiting for some brave state to offer protection to some brave company, and to simply defy orders from the federal government unless they come directly from a law passed by the legislature and signed by the president. We need to get to the point when people openly refuse to recognize edicts as authoritative, and force the federal government to attempt to find legal justification for prosecution.

Sheriffs have the authority to do it; with States' backing, they'd be golden.

If this will cause the tip, I'd like to see it begin.  We really can't endure much more of this.

Push it, hard!

I'd love to see Stymie standing before the heavy machinery...hands outstreached to stop the machines...


And I'd love to see a Rachel Corrie moment.

 ::whoohoo::
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Re: Keystone XL CEO - Pipe Stall Could be Grim
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2011, 12:54:25 PM »
Anti-oil activists opposed to a proposed pipeline to transport tar sands crude oil from Canada to the Gulf of Mexico said protestors who plan to surround the White House on Sunday, Nov. 6, are not attacking President Barack Obama.

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“People will be there on Sunday to remind him” of his campaign promise to “’end the tyranny of oil,’” Bill McKibben said at a press conference on Friday at the National Press Club.

McKibben, a long-time environmental activist ..... said the Keystone XL Pipeline ... is the “most environmentally destructive project on the planet.”

“I suppose you could look at our circle around the president, if you were in a certain mood, as a kind of symbolic house arrest,” McKibben said. “You can’t occupy the White House, but you can surround it.

“But you could also look at it, I suppose, depending on your mood, as a kind of big O-shaped hug,” said McKibben, adding that he is “confident that the president will do the right thing.”

“It’s not in our national interest to transport the dirtiest oil on Earth across our precious Great Plains – the world’s bread basket,” John Adams, founder of the NRDC, said in a press release promoting the protest. “Keystone XL would put our farmers and ranchers at risk, endanger the water supply for millions of Americans, and perpetuate our addiction to oil.”

TransCanada claims, however, that “billions of gallons of oil are safely transported by pipeline” and that protecting the environment is a priority.

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Maura Cowley, co-director of the Energy Action Coalition, said that the jobs created by the pipeline are not desirable jobs for the young people who belong to her group.

“We really, really believe in [Obama], but we are also watching this issue really, really closely,” Cowley said. “And it’s now become an issue for young people that symbolizes Obama’s commitment to clean energy, to a clean energy future, to the green jobs we want.”

Because young people don’t actually want jobs that poison their bodies and make them sick, like dirty oil jobs,” Cowley said.

Dirtiest oil on earth?  Dirty oil jobs that make them sick?

They make me sick.
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Re: Keystone XL CEO - Pipe Stall Could be Grim
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2011, 01:13:15 PM »

Boom Town

Jobs, industry, investment, industrial growth, per capita growth, GDP growth, individual opportunity, individual growth and more.  No government control; free individuals run amok.  Sick, just sick.

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Re: Keystone XL CEO - Pipe Stall Could be Grim
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2011, 01:25:17 PM »
Good find CO - I think I know what I'm watching tonight.  ;D

Oh and yea, wouldn't a little 'boom town' - messy as it may be - be nice right about now?

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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2011, 03:10:27 PM »

Absolutely, if they open up all exploration, there will be boom towns, boom states
at the six points of the US compass and in between.  Coal, natural gas, and oil in
different forms is everywhere.

Oilmen say it would take less than one year for those platforms in San Francisco Bay
to restart pumping.  An image of Nancey's face -- PRICELESS.


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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2011, 01:43:12 PM »
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/10/us-usa-pipeline-idUSTRE7A64O920111110

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The Obama administration plans to announce on Thursday it will explore a new route for a Canada-to-Texas oil pipeline, delaying a final approval beyond the 2012 U.S. election, sources briefed on the matter said.
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Re: Keystone XL CEO - Pipe Stall Could be Grim
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2011, 01:46:39 PM »
Surprise.  NOT.  A sop to the environazis until after the election ... but I don't expect the pipeline will get built then either unless we get Duh Wun out.  And maybe not even then.

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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2011, 01:53:49 PM »
Exactly Pan. Obama is simply trying to get back on the environazi's good side by punting this issue until after the election. It's obvious and blatant pandering at the expense of the country in an effort to smooth over the bumpy road that Obama has built between himself and these potential environazi voters.
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2011, 09:31:46 PM »
Honestly, this makes me happy. Last thing Americans need is relief from Obamanomics. The jobs and benefits can wait til after the  Nov '12 elections. The unions jobs will have to wait. The patrons of those unions will have to suffer another twelve months and I hope they suffer greatly for suppoting the biggest baffoon in American history.
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Re: Keystone XL CEO - Pipe Stall Could be Grim
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2011, 11:03:08 PM »
Saying it will explore a new route is like these idiots saying they'll cut spending tomorrow...the promise isn't worth the paper its written on.  And even if there was an attempt, the next round of eco-freakout will kill it dead since that is the ilk this trash panders too, so...as long as The Regime is in power destruction and misery is all you can expect.
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Re: Keystone XL CEO - Pipe Stall Could be Grim
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2011, 03:34:46 AM »
Surprise.  NOT.  A sop to the environazis until after the election ... but I don't expect the pipeline will get built then either unless we get Duh Wun out.  And maybe not even then.



Exactly . This is so nakedly political that even the WaPo ( God forbid ) has begun to mutter in its Stymie induced sleep .
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