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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #40 on: February 22, 2013, 02:37:32 PM »
Quote from: trapeze on February 22, 2013, 02:23:29 PM
I have absolutely no idea what the answer is. To me it is utterly inexplicable that with demand as high as it is, supply isn't stepping up.

But nature abhors a vacuum so sooner or later that hole has to be filled.

That's what I'm saying too .......

I wonder just how much used brass is being trashed by the .gov as well ......
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #41 on: February 22, 2013, 02:42:43 PM »
Quote from: Pandora on February 22, 2013, 02:37:32 PM
Quote from: trapeze on February 22, 2013, 02:23:29 PM
I have absolutely no idea what the answer is. To me it is utterly inexplicable that with demand as high as it is, supply isn't stepping up.

But nature abhors a vacuum so sooner or later that hole has to be filled.

That's what I'm saying too .......

I wonder just how much used brass is being trashed by the .gov as well ......

I remember reading an article around the time of the first Obama ammo shortage (upon his initial election). Ammo manufacturers were literally running 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, full production capacity, and unable to meet the demand of that time.

It could simply be that the demand now really is that much higher.
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #42 on: February 22, 2013, 02:46:17 PM »
Quote from: IronDioPriest on February 22, 2013, 02:42:43 PM
Quote from: Pandora on February 22, 2013, 02:37:32 PM
Quote from: trapeze on February 22, 2013, 02:23:29 PM
I have absolutely no idea what the answer is. To me it is utterly inexplicable that with demand as high as it is, supply isn't stepping up.

But nature abhors a vacuum so sooner or later that hole has to be filled.

That's what I'm saying too .......

I wonder just how much used brass is being trashed by the .gov as well ......

I remember reading an article around the time of the first Obama ammo shortage (upon his initial election). Ammo manufacturers were running 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, full production capacity, and unable to meet the demand of that time.

It could simply be that the demand now really is that much higher.

It looks to me that it's more than just demand; there is NONE.  No one, or very few, are even receiving shipments and they don't know when to expect them.  It's not like the stuff has to be grown; if production is ramped up, where is it going?
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #43 on: February 22, 2013, 02:56:33 PM »
I have noticed that even in the midst of this huge shortage, 7.62x54R is still somewhat easy to find. In fact I should have another spam can of it delivered today. So if you don't have one already, consider getting yourself a Mosin-Nagant rifle. I have a certain affection for them.
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #44 on: February 22, 2013, 03:02:02 PM »

That observation has serious implications.  To assess the accuracy would require one to put down some shoe leather
and call or visit all stores within a given perimeter.
It would require several persons at different locations
to follow precisely the same technique. Then we would know
for certain whether they were being distributed to the
market place or not.
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #45 on: February 22, 2013, 05:46:54 PM »
I just heard today that there are places buying up ammo ... cash per bullet.
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #46 on: February 22, 2013, 09:37:03 PM »
Quote from: TeachX3 on February 22, 2013, 05:46:54 PM
I just heard today that there are places buying up ammo ... cash per bullet.

Places? As in Businesses?
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #47 on: February 22, 2013, 09:51:14 PM »
Quote from: AlanS on February 22, 2013, 09:37:03 PM
Quote from: TeachX3 on February 22, 2013, 05:46:54 PM
I just heard today that there are places buying up ammo ... cash per bullet.

Places? As in Businesses?

I'm sorry, I'm not sure... I think they said gun shops and then reselling to public  ?


OK, did a quick search... found this article:  http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-business-offering-cash-for-bullets-amid-gun-craze/article/3757149
« Last Edit: February 22, 2013, 09:54:44 PM by TeachX3 »
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #48 on: February 24, 2013, 11:58:59 AM »
Man, those folks could make more money selling to people who want it direct.
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #49 on: February 24, 2013, 05:41:10 PM »
  I went to a gun show today and .22 lr was .50 cents a round!!!! ::cussing::I didn't buy it,they can KMA sooner or later it will drop.
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #50 on: February 24, 2013, 07:15:41 PM »
Quote from: John Florida on February 24, 2013, 05:41:10 PM
 I went to a gun show today and .22 lr was .50 cents a round!!!! ::cussing::I didn't buy it,they can KMA sooner or later it will drop.

I went to Academy again yesterday. They have .22 reasonably priced, but they can't keep it on hand. One guy said the day the truck comes, customers line up outside the door at 7:30 am. The store doesn't open until 9....

And they limit you to 1 box per customer. ::bashing::
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #51 on: February 25, 2013, 06:45:09 AM »
Quote from: AlanS on February 24, 2013, 07:15:41 PM
Quote from: John Florida on February 24, 2013, 05:41:10 PM
 I went to a gun show today and .22 lr was .50 cents a round!!!! ::cussing::I didn't buy it,they can KMA sooner or later it will drop.

I went to Academy again yesterday. They have .22 reasonably priced, but they can't keep it on hand. One guy said the day the truck comes, customers line up outside the door at 7:30 am. The store doesn't open until 9....

And they limit you to 1 box per customer. ::bashing::

Bring the whole family and anybody else you can find.  Better yet grab a whole crate, that's one "box"!   ;D
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #52 on: February 26, 2013, 04:14:17 PM »
Yesterday I was able to buy 950 rounds of 9mm from a private seller for $350  ::danceban:: and I still have a 5K round B/O of .22LR for $225.  I'm going to be waiting quite a while for the B/O to be filled.
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #53 on: February 26, 2013, 04:22:10 PM »
Quote from: Septugenarian on February 26, 2013, 04:14:17 PM
Yesterday I was able to buy 950 rounds of 9mm from a private seller for $350  ::danceban:: and I still have a 5K round B/O of .22LR for $225.  I'm going to be waiting quite a while for the B/O to be filled.

Don't be surprised if that B/O gets cancelled and you have to re-order for $225/1K.
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #54 on: February 26, 2013, 04:53:25 PM »

What was a reasonable price for a brick
before the stampede?
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #55 on: February 26, 2013, 05:13:59 PM »
Quote from: Charles Oakwood on February 26, 2013, 04:53:25 PM

What was a reasonable price for a brick
before the stampede?

I was paying $10-$20. Depending on quality. They're getting almost that per box now.
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #56 on: February 26, 2013, 07:01:35 PM »
Last 500 round brick of .22 I bought was in 2008, and I paid $18 for it.
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #57 on: February 26, 2013, 07:20:35 PM »
I last bought a brick of Remingtons for $13 about 2 yrs ago.

And if you get a chance, don't buy Remington .22's no matter what price. They suck. I've had about 10% FTF or FTE with them.
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #58 on: February 26, 2013, 07:28:11 PM »
I've always heard bad things like that about Remington's rimfire stuff.  I'm not all that wild about their centerfire stuff either to be honest.  Maybe their premium stuff is alright, but the budget Rem/UMC is my least favorite target ammo.

Only Remington rimfire I've ever had is some .22 subsonic, and it has worked fine, though it's just barely subsonic and depending on ambient temperature or barrel length they can go supersonic which sort of defeats the purpose.
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #59 on: February 26, 2013, 08:14:40 PM »
Quote from: Glock32 on February 26, 2013, 07:28:11 PM
I've always heard bad things like that about Remington's rimfire stuff.  I'm not all that wild about their centerfire stuff either to be honest.  Maybe their premium stuff is alright, but the budget Rem/UMC is my least favorite target ammo.

Only Remington rimfire I've ever had is some .22 subsonic, and it has worked fine, though it's just barely subsonic and depending on ambient temperature or barrel length they can go supersonic which sort of defeats the purpose.

CCI the only way to go.
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