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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #60 on: February 26, 2013, 09:00:14 PM »
Yeah CCI is definitely quality.  CCI MiniMags are my overall favorite .22 LR.  Speaking of subsonics, I got a few boxes of Aguila CB -- these have no gunpowder, the bullet is propelled by the primer only. Now those are quiet. They fire a tiny 20 grain bullet, but it still packs enough punch to penetrate cans and such. About as powerful as a good pellet gun I guess.
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« Reply #61 on: February 26, 2013, 09:08:37 PM »

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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #62 on: February 27, 2013, 07:19:59 AM »
I'll buy some Remington shotshells, have never cared much for their centerfire stuff, and agree on their subsonic.  Although I think my father (not being as up to speed) still has a lot of their rimfire.  Oh well, use it for goofing off and replace it with CCI if/when it becomes available again.
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« Reply #63 on: February 27, 2013, 11:08:42 AM »
Yeah their shotgun shells have never been a problem for me. But the UMC 9mm target ammo is noticeably weaker than any of the comparable stuff from Winchester or Federal. I've never chronographed it, but I'd be surprised if it was even making 1100 fps.

Speaking of shotgun shells, my current stash is from Fiocchi and they use nickel plated shot.  #4 buckshot has 27 nickel plated pellets at 1325 fps. That's some bad medicine. Or good medicine for bad guys.
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #64 on: February 27, 2013, 11:10:46 AM »
Yeah CCI is definitely quality.  CCI MiniMags are my overall favorite .22 LR...

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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #65 on: February 27, 2013, 11:14:22 AM »
I'll buy some Remington shotshells, have never cared much for their centerfire stuff, and agree on their subsonic.  Although I think my father (not being as up to speed) still has a lot of their rimfire...

I have 2 semi-auto .22LRs - a Remington rilfe and a Ruger pistol. Both of them HATE the Remington rimfire. They jam too persistently to make it worth ever using what I have. I wish I woulda tested some rounds before buying, but it was such a good deal at the time - like $5.99 for a box of 500, so I just bought a bunch, assuming that since I'd never had brand problems before, I could assume the same would hold true with Remington. So I have a few thousand .22LR rounds for barter when the time comes.
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #66 on: February 27, 2013, 11:26:47 AM »
Yeah their shotgun shells have never been a problem for me. But the UMC 9mm target ammo is noticeably weaker than any of the comparable stuff from Winchester or Federal. I've never chronographed it, but I'd be surprised if it was even making 1100 fps.

Speaking of shotgun shells, my current stash is from Fiocchi and they use nickel plated shot.  #4 buckshot has 27 nickel plated pellets at 1325 fps. That's some bad medicine. Or good medicine for bad guys.

I have used a lot more Winchester for plinking in all of my toys than I have Federal, but I have not had any issues with either, ever. 

I like the military grade buckshot too, get it at Cabelas. forget who makes it, but its nice in that the cases are dark, no flash of color or relfection to give off.

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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #67 on: February 27, 2013, 11:29:36 AM »
I'll buy some Remington shotshells, have never cared much for their centerfire stuff, and agree on their subsonic.  Although I think my father (not being as up to speed) still has a lot of their rimfire...

I have 2 semi-auto .22LRs - a Remington rilfe and a Ruger pistol. Both of them HATE the Remington rimfire. They jam too persistently to make it worth ever using what I have. I wish I woulda tested some rounds before buying, but it was such a good deal at the time - like $5.99 for a box of 500, so I just bought a bunch, assuming that since I'd never had brand problems before, I could assume the same would hold true with Remington. So I have a few thousand .22LR rounds for barter when the time comes.

I hear ya.  We do what we can when we can.

I got the last 9 boxes I could find anywhere of .45LC 225gr JSP the other day, Federal makes it in Anoka, I had to get it through OK!   ::)

Far as I can tell by the activity in the Federal parking lots and loading docks, they look dang busy!

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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #68 on: February 27, 2013, 01:32:29 PM »
I'll buy some Remington shotshells, have never cared much for their centerfire stuff, and agree on their subsonic.  Although I think my father (not being as up to speed) still has a lot of their rimfire...

I have 2 semi-auto .22LRs - a Remington rilfe and a Ruger pistol. Both of them HATE the Remington rimfire. They jam too persistently to make it worth ever using what I have. I wish I woulda tested some rounds before buying, but it was such a good deal at the time - like $5.99 for a box of 500, so I just bought a bunch, assuming that since I'd never had brand problems before, I could assume the same would hold true with Remington. So I have a few thousand .22LR rounds for barter when the time comes.

Wish you were close to me. I have a revolver and a bolt action so I could put it to good use and I was foolish in not stocking up. Who says there will always be tomorrow? LOL
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« Reply #69 on: February 27, 2013, 02:47:24 PM »
I think pretty much everyone has been caught by surprise with this shortage of .22 LR.  I have been through a few of these situations where there is a lot of panic buying, but I don't recall it ever being difficult to get something as common as the old .22.

On the one hand I am rather glad to see that people are stocking up even something as "acceptable" as .22, it indicates that gun owners are definitely alert and paying attention. People aren't buying this stuff up just so they can turn it all in later.
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« Reply #70 on: February 27, 2013, 03:39:05 PM »
I think pretty much everyone has been caught by surprise with this shortage of .22 LR.  I have been through a few of these situations where there is a lot of panic buying, but I don't recall it ever being difficult to get something as common as the old .22.

On the one hand I am rather glad to see that people are stocking up even something as "acceptable" as .22, it indicates that gun owners are definitely alert and paying attention. People aren't buying this stuff up just so they can turn it all in later.
None of this would have ever happened for the Sandy Hook incident not happened. Yes we, as a society like our firearms but we never expected prior tot he incident the overwhelming public desire to buy huge amounts of pistols and rifles in so short a time period. Those new owners wanted to get acquainted with their new toys to they bough ammo. We knew the grabbers would be up to something sinister so we bought more and to top it off, the DHS decided to buy huge amounts for their civilian police force. We now have the mfg attempting to catch up so it's going to take a while. I would wager to say that the market could now support a few new mfg to the ammo producer field.
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« Reply #71 on: February 27, 2013, 04:04:05 PM »
I think pretty much everyone has been caught by surprise with this shortage of .22 LR.  I have been through a few of these situations where there is a lot of panic buying, but I don't recall it ever being difficult to get something as common as the old .22.

On the one hand I am rather glad to see that people are stocking up even something as "acceptable" as .22, it indicates that gun owners are definitely alert and paying attention. People aren't buying this stuff up just so they can turn it all in later.

I plan to turn it in 1 round at a time.   ::evilbat::
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #72 on: February 27, 2013, 09:16:07 PM »
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Re: Ammo Shortages
« Reply #73 on: February 27, 2013, 09:52:44 PM »
Something tells me now is not the time to place ones self into the BATF licensing and regulatory system by starting a new ammo manufacturing company. Otherwise, that looks awesome.
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« Reply #74 on: February 27, 2013, 10:01:37 PM »
I was told by a dealer, that the .22 LR is the number one owned gun in America for household protection.  He said the reason .22LR ammo cannot be found is because the gun is of no good use without ammo, and beings more Americans hold that gun above all others, it only goes to show that someone is making sure the people do not have the one thing they need... for whatever they may need it for.   ::foilhathelicopter::  Well, that's what he said.

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« Reply #75 on: February 27, 2013, 10:12:09 PM »

Thinking: Tactically one or group would rather not
walk into a hail (arrows so thick they blacken out
the sun) of paltry .22s, no matter what body armor.

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« Reply #76 on: February 27, 2013, 10:21:07 PM »
Something tells me now is not the time to place ones self into the BATF licensing and regulatory system by starting a new ammo manufacturing company. Otherwise, that looks awesome.


Funny, because when I saw the pic I didn't think it looked like an ammo factory so much as the inside of my garage.
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« Reply #77 on: February 27, 2013, 10:56:03 PM »
I did something yesterday that I did not think I would do. I bought a box of overpriced .22LR

It's not that I was desperate to buy the stuff. I had told my local gun store that I wanted to be notified when they got some .22LR in and they called me. Seems that some guy had a dozen boxes (235 rounds) of Winchester and wanted to sell it via consignment. The final price was $24/box. So when they called me I felt like I had to say yes since I had asked them to call me and they did. They had buyers for every last one of those boxes. I figured that I could use it to further teach my daughter how to shoot without dipping into my inventory. I asked them to call me when they got 500 round bricks back in.

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« Reply #78 on: February 28, 2013, 07:00:38 AM »
Something tells me now is not the time to place ones self into the BATF licensing and regulatory system by starting a new ammo manufacturing company. Otherwise, that looks awesome.

The time will come very soon when running it illegally is morally right.
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« Reply #79 on: February 28, 2013, 09:08:33 AM »
Something tells me now is not the time to place ones self into the BATF licensing and regulatory system by starting a new ammo manufacturing company. Otherwise, that looks awesome.

The time will come very soon when running it illegally is morally right.

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