Topic: Gun Confiscation has begun in Arizona

[LadyVirginia]

“If a law enforcement officer contacts a person who is in possession of a firearm, the law enforcement officer may take temporary custody of the firearm for the duration of that contact.” -13-3102 Section K, Arizona Law.

 Of course, they may just shoot you.  Even in your own home.  That's what happened to former Marine Jose Guerena when he heard someone breaking into his house and went to the door with his rifle.  What he couldn't have known was that it was a SWAT Team that thought there was a drug dealer in his house.  He couldn't have known that because they didn't identify themselves when they broke down his front door.

 The Marine was executed on the spot.

I'm sure y'all remember this story.

That was over 2 years ago.  Why is that important now?

 Because the above referenced law was just upheld by an Arizona court last month.

 According to the CBS affiliate in Phoenix,

PHOENIX (AP) -A new Arizona court ruling says police can take temporary custody of a person's gun for officer-safety reasons even if the person's contact with police was voluntary.
A man appealing a firearms misconduct conviction argued that Phoenix police wrongfully took his gun after he agreed to talk with officers on a street in a high-crime area.

An Arizona law allows police to take temporary custody of firearms during encounters with people, and the Court of Appeals ruled that includes times when a person is not in custody and merely in consensual contact with police.

The ruling says that gives police flexibility while safeguarding the rights of lawfully armed individuals.

A dissenting judge argued that the law only applies when there's an "investigative" stop based on reasonable suspicion of criminal activity.

Under this law there is no requirement of any suspicion of wrongdoing, nor must it be in any way connected to a criminal investigation. The time period that the police can keep confiscated guns is not specified under the law. This is public theft of private property under the color of law and a violation of the Second Amendment.

A big problem for police investigating crime is that the high crime area residents will not snitch or talk to police.  Guess the rest of us are going have to adopt the same attitude. 

http://americandictators.blogspot.com/

By the way, when Prez O says he honors those who served do you think he means Jose Guerena?

RIP, Mr. Guerena, you died protecting your family.

[Glock32]

Yes, the rest of us are indeed going to have to adopt that mentality. Simply put, the police are there to protect and serve the State. Not you. Not me. Not your fellow citizens. They have evolved into this militarized behemoth precisely because most of us, for most of our lives, bought into this idea of Officer Friendly the public servant and we were always there ready to offer the benefit of every doubt, and to assume the powers and funding they demanded were to get "bad guys".

Well, I can admit I was wrong about all that. The whole time all that apparatus they were building was meant to cow and dominate the regular citizenry. Screw all that noise, I'm done. Now I just look at them as the State's praetorian enforcers. I'd rather deal with the effects of petty crime than the ultimately more significant consequences of giving these praetorians what they want to ostensibly combat that crime.

Coincidence that you posted this LV, because I just posted another thread about how these no-knock raids have increased by 3,000% in the past decade. This Marine is just one of many to be murdered in the execution of these jackbooted raids.

[IronDioPriest]

Maybe it's just because I live in a tri-city area of 30,000 people that is so low-crime we don't even need a police department, and instead rely on the County Sheriff's department from 15 miles away rolling through town every so often. But 100% of my interactions with police in my area have been positive. No indication whatsoever of a department itching to bust down doors without a warrant. I've never heard of a complaint. One deputy lives kitty-corner from me, and is as low-key and mellow a neighbor as one could ask for.

[LadyVirginia]

I live in a county not within the city so my local law enforcement is the sheriff who is tea party.      However, I drive through other towns all the time and I see these cops dressed in black and wearing Kevlar like this is Detroit!

And it's not just the local leo's to worry about but the feds coming in and taking over. 

[Libertas]

FMCDH!