Author Topic: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine (Read 247379 times)

Libertas · « **Reply #2260 on:** May 17, 2024, 09:00:15 AM »

Meanwhile...more practice for WWIII or a prelude to it...whatever...

H/T-WRSA@CF

H/T-WRSA@GAB

https://youtu.be/RkpOSzcy0Vk

patentlymn · « **Reply #2261 on:** May 17, 2024, 12:41:19 PM »

Collapsed?

I get the Baltics confused but some sided with Germans. If Romans, the Russians would have plowed salt in the soil and killed or enslaves most and hauled them away.
Homicide rates for Baltics as a whole. 1985 5.99 per 100,000; 14.16 1995, recovered by 2010

50 pct often lacking food 1993.
Pct income to top 1 pct 4.7 1985, 13.47 2005.
From map, it looks like drop in GDP per capitia in baltics is in top 10 pct

I recall the Baltics lost maybe 25 pct of pop after 1990. May have been in bottom (worse) 10 pct for net migration.

Baltics Pct death rate increase since 1989 around 37 pct.

Pct change in life expectancy at birth 1989 to min.

I found graph but cannot link. has all 3 Baltics.
Lith pop peaked in 1990 at 3.7 M now 2.8 M, Latvia 2.7 to 1.9, Est 1.6 to 1.3.

Baltics sucked at around 5 pct but not as bad as RU at at 6.8 or Ukr at 5.2. The rest of former USSR did much better than that. Most less than 1 pct by far. Table 6.2 taking stock of shock.

After USSR fell many plants were looted, often sold for scrap by local officials.

I recently read that some Baltic asked for exception from sanctions to buy train or tram parts from RU. They used to be the main supplier to USSR thanks to a huge factory. After 1990 plants were privatized and no longer exist.

patentlymn · « **Reply #2262 on:** May 17, 2024, 06:19:21 PM »

Quote from: Libertas on May 17, 2024, 09:00:15 AM

Meanwhile...more practice for WWIII or a prelude to it...whatever...

H/T-WRSA@CF

H/T-WRSA@GAB

https://youtu.be/RkpOSzcy0Vk

Is that real? Seems fake. Even a RU spy plane that close would be a big deal.

patentlymn · « **Reply #2263 on:** May 17, 2024, 06:25:59 PM »

There is a whole series of posts to this.
What is the upside to this?
I do not care if it a church, temple, mosque.
I am not a Muslin, Sikh, Jew, Buddhist, etc but I would not mess with their holy stuff.

There is something vile about this Banderite sect.
https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1791383303632613858

Ukraine keeps destroying churches, cowardly at night so nobody can protest!

In Kyiv, the chapel of the Desyatinny Monastery of the canonical UOC was completely demolished.

Orthodox believers began to come to the demolition site in the morning.

patentlymn · « **Reply #2264 on:** May 17, 2024, 06:30:45 PM »

The Vladimir-Olginskaya Chapel near the site of the Desyatinny Church in Kyiv was cordoned off by police and military personnel in the evening.

At night they dismantled the church quickly and construction workers carried out the rubble of the shrine in dump trucks.

...
In the center of Kyiv, the Tithe Church is being demolished. In the area where the demolition work is being carried out, the Internet and communications have been jammed.

In fact, a military operation is underway.

Residents of the city remember the Gospel of Luke: “For now is your time and the power of darkness”
...

patentlymn · « **Reply #2265 on:** May 17, 2024, 07:58:55 PM »

Nothing really new just another location. The locals want to wait for the Russians to liberate them not be evacuated by Kiev faction.
When I watched more social media post I saw posts from the civilians after the Kiev faction left. They did a lot of damage on the way out.
They shelled lots of civilian buildings and even churches out of spite.

https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1791207556980813937

In the US civil war the north did damage to the south. Why white wash it?

patentlymn · « **Reply #2266 on:** May 19, 2024, 05:29:40 PM »

An OK explanation. Seems to be breach of contract and return of some monies from a guarantor.
https://t.me/EurasianChoice/38119

The Arbitration Court of St. Petersburg and the Leningrad Region seized the property, accounts and securities of the German Deutsche Bank — reports TASS (https://tass.ru/ekonomika/20837629) May 18. Thus, the application of the regional «Russhimalliance»'s» for interim measures in his claim against Deutsche Bank was satisfied.

The Russian company was created specifically for the construction of a gas processing plant and an enterprise for the production of liquefied gas in Ust-Luga. This is a joint project of «Gazprom» and «RusGasExtraction».

«Russhimalliance»'s claims against Deutsche Bank are related to the termination of the contract with the German company Linde, which before the outbreak of hostilities in 2022 had the status of a contractor for the design and construction of the plant, and also received an advance of 1.1 billion euros. Linde subsequently terminated the agreement unilaterally. Deutsche Bank acted as a guarantor in the deal between «Russhimalliance» and Linde, so financial claims were also made against it. However, the bank could not voluntarily pay the money to the Russian company, since this would be a violation of pan-European sanctions against Russia.

Deutsche Bank announced a possible future confiscation of its assets in Russia as early as October 2023 — immediately after «Ruskhimaliance» filed a lawsuit against it. To prepare for this, the bank was still then created a reserve at 258 million euros.

Currently, securities of Deutsche Bank, LLC «Deutsche Bank» and LLC «Technology Center Deutsche Bank», real estate and cash in bank accounts have been seized totalling 238.61 million euros..

https://tass.ru/ekonomika/20837629
The court of the Russian Federation seized the assets, accounts and property of Deutsche Bank at the claim of "Rushimalyans"

patentlymn · « **Reply #2267 on:** May 20, 2024, 08:50:40 PM »

What is the point? What is the upside?
I guess it is a variation of cancel culture or Orwell's 2 minutes hate.

https://t.me/ForeignAgentIntel/10580
Three EU nations persecuting Russian speakers — Moscow

The Baltic states have been displaying “extreme Russophobia,” harassing even Russian-speaking children, a senior diplomat says.

“Today, our diplomatic missions in the Baltic states operate in extremely difficult, effectively siege conditions,” the diplomat explained.

The Russian missions there have been repeatedly vandalized, with russophobic pickets held outside the facilities on an almost daily basis and employees attacked on several occasions. The hostile activities have been going on with the “connivance of local authorities” and no real action to stop them has been taken, Belyayev added.

Russian nationals and even locals who are speakers of Russian have been increasingly persecuted in the three Baltic states, under the “far-fetched pretext of being a threat to national security,” the diplomat said.

Libertas · « **Reply #2268 on:** May 21, 2024, 08:40:44 AM »

Quote from: patentlymn on May 19, 2024, 05:29:40 PM

An OK explanation. Seems to be breach of contract and return of some monies from a guarantor.
https://t.me/EurasianChoice/38119

The Arbitration Court of St. Petersburg and the Leningrad Region seized the property, accounts and securities of the German Deutsche Bank — reports TASS (https://tass.ru/ekonomika/20837629) May 18. Thus, the application of the regional «Russhimalliance»'s» for interim measures in his claim against Deutsche Bank was satisfied.

The Russian company was created specifically for the construction of a gas processing plant and an enterprise for the production of liquefied gas in Ust-Luga. This is a joint project of «Gazprom» and «RusGasExtraction».

«Russhimalliance»'s claims against Deutsche Bank are related to the termination of the contract with the German company Linde, which before the outbreak of hostilities in 2022 had the status of a contractor for the design and construction of the plant, and also received an advance of 1.1 billion euros. Linde subsequently terminated the agreement unilaterally. Deutsche Bank acted as a guarantor in the deal between «Russhimalliance» and Linde, so financial claims were also made against it. However, the bank could not voluntarily pay the money to the Russian company, since this would be a violation of pan-European sanctions against Russia.

Deutsche Bank announced a possible future confiscation of its assets in Russia as early as October 2023 — immediately after «Ruskhimaliance» filed a lawsuit against it. To prepare for this, the bank was still then created a reserve at 258 million euros.

Currently, securities of Deutsche Bank, LLC «Deutsche Bank» and LLC «Technology Center Deutsche Bank», real estate and cash in bank accounts have been seized totalling 238.61 million euros..

https://tass.ru/ekonomika/20837629
The court of the Russian Federation seized the assets, accounts and property of Deutsche Bank at the claim of "Rushimalyans"

https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/russia-confiscates-eu800-million-deutsche-bank-unicredit-and-commerzbank

Hard to give a rip, sh*t happens. War, ya know?

Libertas · « **Reply #2269 on:** May 21, 2024, 08:44:41 AM »

As for Kharkiv/Kharkov...

BBC published a report over the weekend about how “The Russians simply walked in, Ukrainian troops in Kharkiv tell BBC”, citing special reconnaissance commander Denis Yaroslavsky.

According to him, “There was no first line of defence. We saw it. The Russians just walked in. They just walked in, without any mined fields. Either it was an act of negligence, or corruption. It wasn’t a failure. It was a betrayal.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukrainian-special-recon-commander-confirmed-kharkovs-border-was-undefended

This is one of the most retarded wars ever...

Libertas · « **Reply #2270 on:** May 21, 2024, 12:22:06 PM »

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-launches-tactical-nuclear-drills-near-ukraine-response-western-threats

Sovereignty, snort! Ask your pal Xi about Taiwan, Putie!

Nobody respects sovereignty...anybody saying so is a bald-faced liar.

Glad everybody is still into the angst...trajectory unchanged.

Libertas · « **Reply #2271 on:** May 22, 2024, 08:03:13 AM »

Quote from: patentlymn on May 17, 2024, 06:19:21 PM

Quote from: Libertas on May 17, 2024, 09:00:15 AM
Meanwhile...more practice for WWIII or a prelude to it...whatever...

H/T-WRSA@CF

H/T-WRSA@GAB

https://youtu.be/RkpOSzcy0Vk

Is that real? Seems fake. Even a RU spy plane that close would be a big deal.

If it hits the NOTAM system it cannot be fake, never heard of a fake notice...ever, by anybody.

Libertas · « **Reply #2272 on:** May 22, 2024, 08:06:33 AM »

And with Russia joining the sanctions game, ironically since I thought they were pointless...but now FJB is putting the screws on the Germans to get serious with sanctions on Russia...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/yellen-threatens-german-banks-sanctions-eu-approves-using-russian-asset-profits

Everything is proceeding as everyone desires...

patentlymn · « **Reply #2273 on:** May 22, 2024, 01:07:57 PM »

I get the feeling that seizing RU assets will backfire on US. Plenty of countries have assets in US and might want to reduce exposure.

patentlymn · « **Reply #2274 on:** May 22, 2024, 01:38:25 PM »

A real morale buster if true.
https://t.me/EurasianChoice/38311
??RT Editor-in-Chief Margarita Simonyan to publish Ukraine's 'unwanted' POWs list

"I have complete lists of 500 Ukrainian prisoners of war, whom Kiev has been refusing to exchange for four months now. Zelensky has selected 38 people - Azov people and others - and is ready to take only them. Ukraine does not need the rest of the Ukrainian soldiers," Simonyan posted on her Telegram channel.

"The lists include full name and dates of birth. I'll publish it in full this evening. I think it will be interesting for wives, mothers and Ukrainian citizens in general to read it."

https://twitter.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1793277029913174405
🇷🇺🇺🇦 RT Editor-in-Chief Margarita Simonyan to publish Ukraine's 'unwanted' POWs list

"I have complete lists of 500 Ukrainian prisoners of war, whom Kiev has been refusing to exchange for four months now. Zelensky has selected 38 people - Azov people and others - and is ready to take only them. Ukraine does not need the rest of the Ukrainian soldiers," Simonyan posted on her Telegram channel.

"The lists include full name and dates of birth. I'll publish it in full this evening. I think it will be interesting for wives, mothers and Ukrainian citizens in general to read it."

patentlymn · « **Reply #2275 on:** May 22, 2024, 03:38:37 PM »

She should STFU and stop making RU propaganda for them.
She says RU defeat would not be a bad thing because RU could be broken up into smaller nations.
https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1792949951481168054

patentlymn · « **Reply #2276 on:** May 22, 2024, 03:43:29 PM »

Not a POW video. Some guy IDs the 3 soldiers he was dropped off with in a trench 3 days ago after being grabbed. 3 dead. Him still alive.
He IDs them so their names will be known
https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1792834414956716307

patentlymn · « **Reply #2277 on:** May 22, 2024, 06:41:01 PM »

Other polls say very few Ukr want to return after the the war.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/98272

Only 56% of Ukrainians living in Germany, Poland and the Czech Republic are interested in events and the situation in Ukraine - KIIS survey

According to the study, 34% of Ukrainians directly indicated that they are not at all interested in information about Ukraine, and 11% chose the “difficult to answer” option.

Sociologists have come to the conclusion that Ukrainian refugees are gradually losing contact with Ukraine. The survey also indicates that half of the refugees refuse to return to Ukraine.

@Slavyangrad

Libertas · « **Reply #2278 on:** May 23, 2024, 08:19:48 AM »

Quote from: patentlymn on May 22, 2024, 01:07:57 PM

I get the feeling that seizing RU assets will backfire on US. Plenty of countries have assets in US and might want to reduce exposure.

Well, Russia and China are responding in-kind...so...

Libertas · « **Reply #2279 on:** May 23, 2024, 08:21:51 AM »

Quote from: patentlymn on May 22, 2024, 01:38:25 PM

A real morale buster if true.
https://t.me/EurasianChoice/38311
??RT Editor-in-Chief Margarita Simonyan to publish Ukraine's 'unwanted' POWs list

"I have complete lists of 500 Ukrainian prisoners of war, whom Kiev has been refusing to exchange for four months now. Zelensky has selected 38 people - Azov people and others - and is ready to take only them. Ukraine does not need the rest of the Ukrainian soldiers," Simonyan posted on her Telegram channel.

"The lists include full name and dates of birth. I'll publish it in full this evening. I think it will be interesting for wives, mothers and Ukrainian citizens in general to read it."

https://twitter.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1793277029913174405
🇷🇺🇺🇦 RT Editor-in-Chief Margarita Simonyan to publish Ukraine's 'unwanted' POWs list

"I have complete lists of 500 Ukrainian prisoners of war, whom Kiev has been refusing to exchange for four months now. Zelensky has selected 38 people - Azov people and others - and is ready to take only them. Ukraine does not need the rest of the Ukrainian soldiers," Simonyan posted on her Telegram channel.

"The lists include full name and dates of birth. I'll publish it in full this evening. I think it will be interesting for wives, mothers and Ukrainian citizens in general to read it."

Could be a real propaganda Op too...I mean what are the Rus asking for? Seems too one-sided...