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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #2480 on: October 04, 2024, 08:41:26 AM »
Putin claims hegemony over all Slavs...but that's OK, anybody else asserting dominance is to be demonized and shamed?

Did Ukraine ever subjugate Russia?

Why cannot people STFU and everybody leave everybody else alone?

I find such dreck like this terminally useless, stupid and counter-productive.

Russians are bloody Mongols and Ukrainians are fascists...OK, everybody happy now?

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #2481 on: October 09, 2024, 08:48:48 PM »


https://t.me/myLordBebo/46991
“Lithuania has placed dragon's teeth on a bridge on the border with Russia.

Later iron beams will be added to them.”
— The head of the Lithuanian Ministry of Defense Laurynas Kasciunas.

?? Putin furiously canceled the invasion screaming “not dragon teeth”.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #2482 on: October 10, 2024, 09:45:07 AM »
Yeah, doesn't open for me...

And I got all excited to see dragon's teeth...

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #2483 on: October 10, 2024, 02:16:32 PM »
Pah, Puti Tat all meow no claws!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/russia-announces-they-have-evidence-us-uk-were/

Let's get the obvious out of the way - everybody knows who did it, those who don't know are morons.

But what is also obvious is Russia isn't serious about pressing the issue, otherwise they'd lay their proof out for everyone to see.

They, like a cat not interested in eating or killing its prey, is merely interested in playing with its prey.

This is pure Russian self-gratification, period.

Do I fault them for it?  No.  I expect it.

I just wish they were serious about hitting the corrupt despotic Biden-Harris regime in the teeth with their bad deeds, instead they only seem content in flapping their yap!
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #2484 on: October 10, 2024, 02:56:59 PM »

Hmmmm
https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/u-s-navy-on-the-scene-shortly-before-nord-stream-sabotage/


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZYfhxxXAAATpn0?format=png&name=small

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Just days before the Nord Stream gas pipeline attack in September 2022, warships belonging to the U.S. Navy were on the scene and ordered nearby officials to keep away.

That is according to John Anker Nielsen, who is harbour master at Christiansø, the easternmost part of Denmark in the Baltic Sea, northeast of the island of Bornholm and close to the sites of the Nord Stream explosions.
Map showing the route of Nord Stream 1 and 2 in the southern Baltic Sea and location of the leaks. AWZ=Exclusive Economic Zone
Map: AFP / Nadine EHRENBERG, adapted

Nielsen late last month told a reporter at Politiken, a major Danish daily, that he went out with a rescue team four or five days before the blast to check on nearby ships with switched-off radios, suspecting there might have been an accident, only to find U.S. warships, whose staff ordered the team to turn back immediately.

Politiken journalist Hans Davidsen-Nielsen wrote that the interaction had given the harbour master—who was “not allowed to say a thing” at first—some “faith in the theory that American star journalist Seymour Hersh, among others, has put forward without any documentation: that the U.S. was behind the sabotage.”

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #2485 on: October 11, 2024, 04:48:04 PM »

In this episode of "Stuff you just can't make up," Shakira's merc cousin went to shoot Russkies in the Kursk region and, predictably, got literally roasted, after which, his burned body was identified by a hip implant.

Shakira had a song, "Hips don't lie".

Talk about the irony of fate!!

Funny but fake I heard.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #2486 on: October 13, 2024, 02:07:20 PM »


This guy is from Mariupol, has a western Ukr surname, is ethnic Russian I think.
I knew most of this. My conclusion is that Ukr went crazy. Worse than the US covid, mask,  and vaxx psychosis.
This ramped up after 2014.
I had heard that Ukr replaces history/geography books every year as they re re-written.
He says that Kiev makes changes to the Ukr language every year. Some Ukr words were close to Russian words. so Kiev changes them. He said he had a hard time with the Ukr language exam to get into university as the Ukr language he grew up with is changed every year.

I heard elsewhere that Odessa recently named 12 new monuments to be taken down. Mostly long dead Russian authors as I recall. How does that help them?


https://youtu.be/V7lVZNOhKnc
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #2487 on: October 15, 2024, 07:11:30 PM »


Sounds like James Bond stuff. I had no idea this was real.

https://t.me/putingers_cat/12109
65 years ago in Munich, on a pleasant autumn day, on the landing of the house No. 7 on Kreitmannstrasse, Stepan Bandera was overtaken by an inconspicuous young man with a newspaper in his hand, going up. This young man was KGB agent Bogdan Stashinsky.

Then he turned around abruptly and in the silence two quiet pops were heard - two shots with cartridges loaded with cyanide, two clouds in front of Bandera's face. A sharp breath and in a few seconds Stepan Bandera, the Nazi accomplice nicknamed "Snot" and "Baba", the executioner of the civilian population - was turning blue at the foot of the stairs.

So on October 15, 1959, the sentence of the Supreme Court of the USSR was carried out on Stepan Bandera.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #2488 on: October 16, 2024, 09:06:16 AM »
OMG Russians assassinate people in other lands! 

 ::ohno::

And they made a martyr for latter day folks to obtain inspiration from...

Russia should have been accommodating and peaceful...

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #2489 on: October 16, 2024, 12:25:24 PM »
OMG Russians assassinate people in other lands! 

 ::ohno::

And they made a martyr for latter day folks to obtain inspiration from...

Russia should have been accommodating and peaceful...

Later polonium?
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #2490 on: October 16, 2024, 12:42:09 PM »


I just heard that in 2014 Obama asked SWIFT to cut off Russia after Crimea rejoined Russia. SWIFT said they would not be turned into a weapon.
In 2019 a new head of SWIFT was appointed. He did what he was told.IMO the end will not be good for US.

The US govt claims there was an invasion in 2014 but even US data says there was over whelming support for rejoining Russia. In 2014 there was the US backed coup and the US installed govt backed laws against  languages other than Ukrainian.  Only 15% of people in Crimea IDed as Ukrainian. Most IDed as Crimean, Crimean-Tatar, and Russian according to USAID polls.
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #2491 on: October 16, 2024, 01:12:47 PM »
OMG Russians assassinate people in other lands! 

 ::ohno::

And they made a martyr for latter day folks to obtain inspiration from...

Russia should have been accommodating and peaceful...

Later polonium?

Maybe a polonium loaded microscopic orb that was injected into that one guy's leg with an umbrella tip--USSR/KGB stuff--but I think Putin's latest modus operandi for disposing of his political enemies is having them pushed out of very high windows.  ::thumbsup::

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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #2492 on: October 16, 2024, 02:00:50 PM »


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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #2493 on: October 17, 2024, 08:55:46 AM »


I just heard that in 2014 Obama asked SWIFT to cut off Russia after Crimea rejoined Russia. SWIFT said they would not be turned into a weapon.
In 2019 a new head of SWIFT was appointed. He did what he was told.IMO the end will not be good for US.

The US govt claims there was an invasion in 2014 but even US data says there was over whelming support for rejoining Russia. In 2014 there was the US backed coup and the US installed govt backed laws against  languages other than Ukrainian.  Only 15% of people in Crimea IDed as Ukrainian. Most IDed as Crimean, Crimean-Tatar, and Russian according to USAID polls.

There was huge support for Hitler annexing the Sudetenland and Austria too, and for Russian hegemony over Eastern Europe...and Joe Biden in 2020...FWIW
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #2495 on: October 17, 2024, 09:14:16 AM »
Maybe the bleating shouldn't be Russia! Russia! Russia! but Huns! Huns! Huns! 

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/german-companies-skirt-sanctions-help-putins-war-machine
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #2496 on: October 18, 2024, 09:56:25 AM »
These keep happening...and so far not in huge numbers that I can tell...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/19-ukrainians-arrested-moldovan-border-men-continue-flee-conscription

...and so far they are wise not to do what the warmongers in America want in lowering the recruiting age to 18...

...on that score they are not insane.

But, Z's plan for victory tour in American and Europe having landed like a loud fart in a quiet room...Z is now issuing an ultimatum -

Ukraine must either join NATO or obtain nuclear weapons.

Sounds crazy but if any chance of winning, or not losing any more territory is the goal...those are two logical answers.  They may not be conducive to peace in the region at this point in time or for the world if Putin's red lines are not bullsh*t, but from a certain point of view they are options.  I think the Trump option is better, negotiating an end even if it means land concessions if survival as a people is the priority.

Anyway...having been mildly prescient at the fall of the Russian Communist Empire...I recalled at the time when I heard Ukraine would be surrendering the Soviet nukes on their territory that it may come back to haunt them.  Naturally I was wary of Russian ability to resist hegemon impulses throughout their former satellite minions...but as latter history shows having a nuclear capability may have kept scheming Western globalists and warmongers at bay would have benefitted the Ukrainian people as much as keeping the Russian bear at bay.  It may have been their one and only chance at true independence.

So sad...
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #2497 on: October 21, 2024, 01:29:16 PM »
Even committed fighters are growing weary and seek a negotiated exit from the carnage...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/we-are-ready-negotiations-ukrainian-lieutenant-yulia-mykytenko/

Perhaps some good can come from such voices...
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #2498 on: October 24, 2024, 09:09:52 AM »
Seems a lot of folks are reading tea leaves...

In a huge and surprise development, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has specified and verbalized what could be a first concrete step toward ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine.

He told journalists in Kiev this week that both sides should mutually agree on halting all aerial attacks on energy targets and cargo ships, and that this could pave the way for negotiations to end the war.

The comments were first reported by Financial Times on Tuesday, which quoted the Monday remarks as follows: "when it comes to energy and freedom of navigation, getting a result on these points would be a signal that Russia may be ready to end the war."

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/zelensky-first-time-offers-russia-realistic-step-negotiating-table

For Z it appears that Trump is building a large electoral win...but even is Harris benefits from an even larger electoral fraud than 2020...Z is screwed...Trump will push a negotiated end, Harris heading another suspect/illegitimate regime will encounter a host of animus and roadblocks in Congress, especially if the latter continues on trend of GOP retention of the House and gaining control of the Senate...

For Russia, they have to recognize it is no small thing getting Z to negotiate with you on anything, it could be the breakthrough needed to end the war without any more bloodshed.

But, I suspect with Russia winning on the ground...and Ukraine losing their desire for continued carnage...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukrainian-troops-increasingly-refusing-orders-desertion-rates-explode

...even if Putin agrees to the ceasefire, I reckon he will demand too much to get Ukraine to agree to any treaty ending the war...so the slow slaughter of Ukraine will continue to a bitter bloody end with chances of escalation and widening increasing exponentially...
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Re: The Battle over East vs West (Russia vs Europe) continues in Ukraine
« Reply #2499 on: October 24, 2024, 10:49:39 PM »

I do not really care about this but it seems that Linux Linus recently kicked Russians off Linux kernel. People that know this stuff say that this will force  a global fork of Linux.

https://voxday.net/2024/10/24/smells-like-bricsx/

 
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    but a few minutes ago Linus Torvalds chimed in with his opinion. Linux creator Linus Torvalds wrote:
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        “Ok, lots of Russian trolls out and about. It’s entirely clear why the change was done, it’s not getting reverted, and using multiple random anonymous accounts to try to “grass root” it by Russian troll factories isn’t going to change anything.

        And FYI for the actual innocent bystanders who aren’t troll farm accounts – the “various compliance requirements” are not just a US thing.

        If you haven’t heard of Russian sanctions yet, you should try to read the news some day. And by “news”, I don’t mean Russian state-sponsored spam.

        As to sending me a revert patch – please use whatever mush you call brains. I’m Finnish. Did you think I’d be supporting Russian aggression? Apparently it’s not just lack of real news, it’s lack of history knowledge too.”

It’s not as if the Russians are simply going to throw up their hands and start using Windows 11. This promises to be the Mother of All Forks, and given the recently expressed position of BRICS on the illegality of Western sanctions, I doubt any of the BRICS countries are going to stick with the original Linux version.
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