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Obama to Boeing: Drop Dead
« on: April 21, 2011, 11:24:51 PM »
Obama to Boeing: Drop Dead

HT: instapundit, link @ ricochet.com... original article @ NYT...

This could well be the most outrageous insult yet to the free market economy:
[blockquote]In what may be the strongest signal yet of the new pro-labor orientation of the National Labor Relations Board under President Obama, the agency filed a complaint Wednesday seeking to force Boeing to bring an airplane production line back to its unionized facilities in Washington State instead of moving the work to a nonunion plant in South Carolina.[/blockquote]
Do I need to explain how many kinds of wrong this is? Not only is the federal government saying to Boeing that it gets to decide where it puts its production lines, it's telling South Carolina it may as well not enact laws designed to attract investment. All that's missing are the words "Five Year Plan."

Remember those two recess appointments to the National Labor Relations Board? The guys making these decisions about the commanding heights of the American economy have never even been confirmed by the Senate.
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Re: Obama to Boeing: Drop Dead
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2011, 11:32:02 PM »

Cavuto gave the NLRB guy hell today. 
It may well have been the best Cavuto ever. 


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Re: Obama to Boeing: Drop Dead
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2011, 11:45:04 PM »

Cavuto gave the NLRB guy hell today. 
It may well have been the best Cavuto ever. 



Any vid?
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Re: Obama to Boeing: Drop Dead
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2011, 06:08:25 AM »
This needs a slap across the face with a glove.  Quick - Whose face to slap?  Whose glove?  Surely there is somebody in authority to issue this righteous challenge.

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Re: Obama to Boeing: Drop Dead
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2011, 06:20:32 AM »
The regulatory power of a federal agency may be checked in the courts. Although the results have not always gone the way business would like (regulation of co2), there must be an attempt to reign in the overreach of the NLRB.
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Re: Obama to Boeing: Drop Dead
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2011, 06:51:33 AM »
The NLRB has a couple of conservative members - can one of them run down to the courthouse and file a complaint?  Or should we find an appropriate person in Congress to do it?  Surely SOMEONE should get on it right away!  Wasn't there a takedown of the fed powers to make this kind of decision some 60 or 70 years ago?

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Re: Obama to Boeing: Drop Dead
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2011, 07:12:55 AM »

Cavuto gave the NLRB guy hell today. 
It may well have been the best Cavuto ever. 



I saw that . I'm not sure which will be more effective in the short/long term . I think it's certain that Boeing would win in the courts although it will most assuredly go all the way to the Supreme Court ... or the House of Representatives could hold up or severely slash NLRB's funding during the upcoming budget fight . Whichever way it goes , I hope Boeing has the testicular fortitude to hang ( no pun intended ) in there .

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Re: Obama to Boeing: Drop Dead
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2011, 07:27:11 AM »
At some point states and major corporations are going to have to work in tandem to defy this government. "We do not recognize the authority of the NRLB, and we plan to proceed as planned. If the federal government wishes to block Boeing's move to South Carolina, they'll have to pass a law, which of course would be clearly unconstitutional, which is why they choose instead to attempt to hand down dictates by regulatory fiat."

If states do not have the courage to defy the federal government at some point, we will become Venezuela.
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Re: Obama to Boeing: Drop Dead
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2011, 07:28:03 AM »
Can someone tell me how this is not fascism? Isn't the textbook definition of fascism the preservation of an ostensibly private industry, but one consolidated into a handful of large enterprises who are beholden to the State for its direction in terms of output, labor management, pricing, etc.? In other words, an essentially nationalized industry that allows its higher-ups to continue getting rich as long as they play ball with the State.

How much you want to bet they would have said nothing if Boeing had been planning a move to NC or FL? These are also right-to-work southern states, but have figured prominently in recent elections (FL with its large electoral count, NC being "purple" as potential swing state). SC is solidly and dependably red, so the Obongo Administration doesn't care about upsetting anyone there.

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Re: Obama to Boeing: Drop Dead
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2011, 07:38:21 AM »
Can someone tell me how this is not fascism? Isn't the textbook definition of fascism the preservation of an ostensibly private industry, but one consolidated into a handful of large enterprises who are beholden to the State for its direction in terms of output, labor management, pricing, etc.? In other words, an essentially nationalized industry that allows its higher-ups to continue getting rich as long as they play ball with the State.


Exactly . Read about the relationship between Hitler and Krupp as a perfect example .

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Re: Obama to Boeing: Drop Dead
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2011, 08:10:25 AM »
World to Øbozo: You go first.

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Re: Obama to Boeing: Drop Dead
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2011, 08:16:38 AM »
World to Øbozo: You go first.

I agree. It has to be that way though, and clearly seen by all, or it will be used to justify anything totalitarianism has ever imagined.
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Re: Obama to Boeing: Drop Dead
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2011, 12:33:27 PM »
I can't believe the gall of the unions.  When will the people of the USA realize that the unions are the reason that there is so much wrong with the country.  And most union members don't even see the forest for the trees.  I grew up in Pittsburgh and watched the unions destroy the steel industry.  If the blue collar workers get paid white collar wages the price of goods skyrockets till no one can afford them.  That leads to businesses going out of business and everyone looses their jobs, from the janitors to the CEO's.  How could that be good?  Boeing has a large backlog (in the $30 billion range) and if the unions want to destroy the largest aerospace company in the USA all they have to do is go on a long strike.  Of course no one wins in that scenario, but it plays right into the socialist in chiefs agenda.  Boeing would go out of business and 120,000 people go onto the government dole (unemployment) so pappy obama can take care of them.
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2011, 12:38:37 PM »
I can't believe the gall of the NRLB, a government agency, seeking to do this.

Without the force and power of the Federal government, the unions could jump up and down and scream until they're red in the face for all the good it would do them.

This administration and its departments and bureaucracies are totally out of control.
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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2011, 12:43:23 PM »
I caught a bit of Jason Lewis speaking about this yesterday, and he made the very simple point that a system where employees are lauded and employers are demonized cannot exist. It will lead to a complete breakdown of the economy and society.

So we must ask ourselves, (this is me now, not Jason) what are the goals of an administration that is systematically lauding the altruistic nature of employees while demonizing employers and turning their workforces against them? Could it be any clearer that this administration and its party are attempting feverishly to destroy the capitalist engine of the world?

Thus, what is incumbent upon us as free citizens to do? How must we respond to this existential threat?

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« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2011, 12:58:33 PM »
All I know is what we've been doing is not working: electing the "right" people, hoping for proper legislation; passing ballot referendums; fighting in the Courts, while paying our taxes and following the law lain out for us by our "betters".

Almost none of it has done any tangible good; we're still held hostage by not only the governments, but by the corporations who protect themselves by enforcing, on each other and on us, the rules, mandates, regulations and diktats, while the statists break their own laws at will with no adverse consequences.

I don't know what to say to people who still insist we must "play by the rules" when there are no longer any hard and fast rules by which to "play".

I don't know.



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Re: Obama to Boeing: Drop Dead
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2011, 07:13:12 AM »
I'd say this is 3rd world like, except this kind of crap doesn't even happen in the 3rd world.  Heck of a job there Lil'Barry.

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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2011, 07:53:33 AM »
I can't believe the gall of the unions.  When will the people of the USA realize that the unions are the reason that there is so much wrong with the country.  And most union members don't even see the forest for the trees.  I grew up in Pittsburgh and watched the unions destroy the steel industry.  If the blue collar workers get paid white collar wages the price of goods skyrockets till no one can afford them.  That leads to businesses going out of business and everyone looses their jobs, from the janitors to the CEO's.  How could that be good?  Boeing has a large backlog (in the $30 billion range) and if the unions want to destroy the largest aerospace company in the USA all they have to do is go on a long strike.  Of course no one wins in that scenario, but it plays right into the socialist in chiefs agenda.  Boeing would go out of business and 120,000 people go onto the government dole (unemployment) so pappy obama can take care of them.

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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2011, 08:57:00 AM »
If I were Boeing, and this injustice is not quickly repudiated, I would not only not move the production back to Union Land, I would move my entire operations overseas. Apparently the slack jawed American Idol viewers who presently masquerade as "citizens" in this country are going to have to suffer materially in order to individually feel the consequences of their pisspoor decisions at the ballot box. Even then, a goodly portion of them will think the solution is to double down on stupid.
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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2011, 09:12:09 AM »
The new Governor of SC said she wasn't going to stand for this. I believe she may be jumping in and head for the courts. The building is being built as we speak so I doubt anybody is backing off with money and a lot of jobs on the line.Nicky Haley didn't look like she was shrinking from this he claws were out.
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