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Take a look at the explanation of the evidence at GatewayPundit and judge for yourself. I'm not a photoshop expert, but what this person is saying makes sense.

Photoshop Expert Claiming Obama's Released Certificate an Obvious Fake

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Whelp, it continues.  ::stirpot::

They were mighty progressive in Hawaii, my BC has both parents sigs, and and acknowledgment check box indicating that I was legitimate.



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Another forgery. They even say it's not an original.
they floated this out there to put as much distance between the disclosure and the election so that the next major catastrophe, and there will be several, will push this into the "old news" category.
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If this is a fake, they had to have known it would be recognized as such immediately. Which means Obama is basically telling the American people who have questions about his legitimacy to f**k off. Which would be completely in character.
"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

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If this is a fake, they had to have known it would be recognized as such immediately. Which means Obama is basically telling the American people who have questions about his legitimacy to f**k off. Which would be completely in character.

Yes.   ::pokeineye::
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Read some of the comments over at Atlas Shrugs
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist

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If this is a fake, they had to have known it would be recognized as such immediately. Which means Obama is basically telling the American people who have questions about his legitimacy to f**k off. Which would be completely in character.

Yes.   ::pokeineye::

He's doing it, as Willie said, "for all the world to see".




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If this is a fake, they had to have known it would be recognized as such immediately. Which means Obama is basically telling the American people who have questions about his legitimacy to f**k off. Which would be completely in character.

Exactly.  I said at Neo-Neocon earlier tonight that he's basically giving us all the finger yet again.
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Linking from GateWay to Pamela to Sowell:

- - -> What Trump has that so many other Republicans are so painfully   
         lacking is the ability and the willingness to articulate his positions
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Thomas, Trump also respects his audience.

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OK. It's a fake. Let's move on.

Get up to speed about this fraud in the Oval Office who used Bill Ayers to write his tome, "Dreams from my Father."

Watch this:

Who Wrote "Dreams from My Father"? (1 of 2)
The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living
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Re: Photoshop Expert Claiming Obama's Released Certificate an Obvious Fake
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2011, 07:40:25 AM »
If this is a fake, they had to have known it would be recognized as such immediately. Which means Obama is basically telling the American people who have questions about his legitimacy to f**k off. Which would be completely in character.

Exactly.  I said at Neo-Neocon earlier tonight that he's basically giving us all the finger yet again.

He threw his disclaimer out at the start of his psychotic presser...he gave us all the finger, threw this bogus document in our faces and will just say "see, I told you they are nuts" whenever the issue comes up.  He manufactured his exit plan and will stick with it, no matter how many experts denounce this document as fraudulent.  We'll see how he can run from that.  More interesting to me is how he can run from the fact that even this forgery lists his father as a Kenyan citizen...U.S. Presidents cannot have dual citizenship...so he's in deep sh*t any way you look at this.
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Re: Photoshop Expert Claiming Obama's Released Certificate an Obvious Fake
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2011, 08:53:34 AM »
"so he's in deep sh*t any way you look at this."
I don't think so, on this issue.
From Beck to Malkin to Levin...they continue to disparage Birthers as nuts.
None have discussed the issue that his father's citizenship disqualifies him.

What this does is marginalizes those who know this is subterfuge.
It does distract from the issue of total transformation of the country

And who is going to enforce it?

The courts won't hear it, the House won't impeach him and if they did, the Senate won't convict him.
Mark Levin says the courts have no authority to remove a sitting president

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Re: Photoshop Expert Claiming Obama's Released Certificate an Obvious Fake
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2011, 09:02:48 AM »
"so he's in deep sh*t any way you look at this."
I don't think so, on this issue.
From Beck to Malkin to Levin...they continue to disparage Birthers as nuts.
None have discussed the issue that his father's citizenship disqualifies him.

What this does is marginalizes those who know this is subterfuge.
It does distract from the issue of total transformation of the country

And who is going to enforce it?

The courts won't hear it, the House won't impeach him and if they did, the Senate won't convict him.
Mark Levin says the courts have no authority to remove a sitting president

Sounds like it calls for Sharon Angle's "2d Amendment remedies"!
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Re: Photoshop Expert Claiming Obama's Released Certificate an Obvious Fake
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2011, 09:11:09 AM »
Regarding the issue of his father being a kenyan, and thus making him a double-citizenship, which would disqualify him as a natural born citizen,

I have heard it argued that a baby born under those circumstances have until they are 18 to declare for themselves to being a double-citizen or not. He made no such declaration, thus causing him to default to single citizenship, natural born citizen.

now, I do not have a clue if this is a factual argument or not. Does anybody know for sure about that?
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Re: Photoshop Expert Claiming Obama's Released Certificate an Obvious Fake
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2011, 09:41:43 AM »
"I have heard it argued that a baby born under those circumstances have until they are 18 to declare for themselves to being a double-citizen or not. He made no such declaration, thus causing him to default to single citizenship, natural born citizen"

radioman, I've never heard that argument.
doesn't mean it's not out there, just never heard it

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Re: Photoshop Expert Claiming Obama's Released Certificate an Obvious Fake
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2011, 10:36:18 AM »
Section 301 of the INA [8 USC § 1401] defines the following classes of people as having US citizenship from the time of birth:


anyone born in the US and subject to its jurisdiction (basically meaning anyone other than a child of foreign government representatives with diplomatic immunity);

Indians and other aboriginal people born in the US;

anyone born outside the US, if at least one parent is a US citizen and certain residency or physical presence requirements were fulfilled by the citizen parent or parents prior to the child's birth;

anyone who is found in the US while under five years of age, whose parents cannot be identified, and who is not shown prior to his or her 21st birthday to have been born outside the US.

http://www.richw.org/dualcit/law.html


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Re: Photoshop Expert Claiming Obama's Released Certificate an Obvious Fake
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2011, 11:16:25 AM »
But, is that "natural born"?

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Re: Photoshop Expert Claiming Obama's Released Certificate an Obvious Fake
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2011, 11:33:08 AM »
The rest of his records may show that he denounced his US citizenship. That is why all his documentation is important.
He continues to implement his agenda throughout our government. He has and continues to defy our constitution and on that basis he needs to explain to us who he was and who he is now, and how he got there. That is the part that is missing.

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Edit: I went back and reread the article and comments if it is a fake I'm sure Donald Trump will put experts before the camera to expose it.
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Re: Photoshop Expert Claiming Obama's Released Certificate an Obvious Fake
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2011, 11:36:27 AM »
Yes, citizenship by birth.  Probably have to get an immigration lawyer to comment on all the why's and whatnot's...surprised nobody has grabbed one and asked all the questions.  Guess that shows how much people really don't care.  I would like to see transcripts released.
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Re: Photoshop Expert Claiming Obama's Released Certificate an Obvious Fake
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2011, 11:48:24 AM »
But, is that "natural born"?
In fact, no. At the time of the constructing of the Constitution of the United States, the founders or constructors used the works of The Law of Nations, a 1758 work by Swiss legal philosopher Emmerich de Vattel which stated that a natural born citizen is one of which both parent were citizens of that nation.

Checkmate!

Of course our severely handicapped SCOTUS will do nothing with this information regarding the actual court cases of such matters because they just don't want to make waves in an already massive North Atlantic storm.
There, you see, the question of whether or not we are a nation of laws or men has been decided for us by unelected men and women in black robes that care little about the Republic. Can we start the war yet, after all, it's already been declared upon us by the political elite. ::gaah::

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