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How do you see Tuesday going?

About the same win for Trump as 2016
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Huge Trump win
4 (50%)
Small Biden win
0 (0%)
Big Biden win
0 (0%)

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Voting closed: November 03, 2020, 09:10:29 PM

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Offline richb

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Predictions for Tuesday Nov 3, 2020!
« on: October 31, 2020, 10:08:22 PM »
So it's Halloween (and/or Reformation Day) Saturday,  the last weekend before the big USA election here in 2020. 

So what are people here thinking it's going to go?

1. About the same results as 2016?  Trump win,  but not huge.    Polls wrong yet again?

2. Big Trump win?   Polls really wrong this time?   

3. Small Biden win?   Polls maybe about right this time?

4. Big Biden win? 


1.   Guessing this one is most likely.   Turnout has been huge,  so the overall voting numbers will be larger than 2016,  but will it still be about the same ratio?  I stood in line for two and a half hours today for early voting.  It's not clear if that favors either candidate,  so the needle may not move much.    The support for Trump with Republicans is huge yet.  But will he hold enough of the Democrats he picked up in states like Michigan and Pennsylvania in 2016?  Will the Democrats manage to bring out enough people voting against Trump to get it for Biden,  since there seems to be little actual support for Biden himself?   Trump does have the advantage of being the incumbent.

2.  Had Covid not happened,  this probably would have been.   The economy was finally getting out of the toilet,  and that alone probably would have gotten a second term easy, especially against a weak candidate like Biden.   Unfortunately I don't see a huge win happening,  though it would be really satisfying.    Covid has been a huge battering ram on the Trump administration.   Trump will never have the full power of the federal government behind him like a Democratic president would,  as there are too many there actively working against him.

3.   Unfortunately, this is likely too.    If Trump loses Michigan,  Pennsylvania it's probably over.   If it's close, little voter fraud will be necessary for Democrats to steal it too, making it easier for the media to bury those stories.   Democrats always have the advantage when it comes to get out the vote,  as they are willing to actually pick people up from home to bring them to polling stations,  something Republicans continue to not do. 

4.  This doesn't seem likely.   Biden and Harris aren't that popular with Democrats,  they are more fired up about getting Trump out than getting Biden in.  Are enough Democrats turned off to the fact that they are likely electing Harris to be president? (Most annoying voice since Jimmy Carter!)  Will Democrats be really brazen and pull out the full hog with voter fraud if they think they are against the wall?   If Biden wins states like Texas,  there will be fraud no doubt.   On the scale of 1960 even.   

Other thoughts.   It's unlikely we will know the winner on election night unless it's a pretty clear Biden win.   The media will be very reluctant to call it for Trump (like 2016) again,  no matter how far ahead he would be.   It was really fun watching them in 2016 and a rerun in 2020 would be totally delicious.  However if Biden wins it will suck as the arrogance will be on full display. 

There will be riots if Trump wins.   Democrats will likely cry voter fraud,  even though they will be guilty of all of it.   

There won't be riots if Biden wins.   A few will talk about the voter fraud but it will be quickly buried by the media and the incoming Biden regime. 

So your thoughts!!!



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Re: Predictions for Tuesday Nov 3, 2020!
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2020, 10:19:59 PM »
I’m really not feeling good about it. I hope to have my misgivings proven to be unfounded. Either way, the Left is an existential threat to the very existence of the country. If Trump does indeed win, people need to be held accountable for their crimes, AND steps need to be taken to prevent the radical Left from ever holding the levers of power. A tall order for four short years.
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Re: Predictions for Tuesday Nov 3, 2020!
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2020, 08:47:26 AM »
If it were an honest election it would be a blowout for Trump. He and his team have done a magnificent job of campaigning.

But it won't be an honest election. The left already promised us that they would do anything to prevail - and by their actions I believe them. So Trumps total will be offset (partially nullified) by illegitimate leftist votes. Trump will still win, but not by much.

And then, my friends, let the games begin!

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Re: Predictions for Tuesday Nov 3, 2020!
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2020, 08:51:59 AM »
I cannot get it thru my brain how anyone of average intellect could vote for Biden. It should be a blowout.

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Re: Predictions for Tuesday Nov 3, 2020!
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2020, 08:58:30 AM »
I cannot get it thru my brain how anyone of average intellect could vote for Biden. It should be a blowout.

richb identified it in his point #4 - they have no warmth for either Bidet or Harris but they hate Trump with an intensity that rivals the sun. Merely calling it TDS doesn't give adequate appreciation of the pure insanity we are witnessing.

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Re: Predictions for Tuesday Nov 3, 2020!
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2020, 09:00:18 AM »
This is just one swing state but...

Biden's "lead" has totally collapsed in Iowa.  Ernst is back in the lead, also, according to polls.

Like I said, just one swing state.

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Re: Predictions for Tuesday Nov 3, 2020!
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2020, 04:30:58 PM »


“Hello, it’s Gretchen. I’d like to help Donald Trump win Michigan, how can I help?”

Her executive orders have irrigated a huge chuck of the electorate in this state.
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Re: Predictions for Tuesday Nov 3, 2020!
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2020, 05:01:42 PM »
I live in Northern Minnesota now, in an area that has traditionally been working class “DFL” (our state Democrat/Farmer/Labor party). The miners of the iron range, shippers of Duluth, farmers, and traditional Humphrey Democrats have essentially added to the Twin Cities and Rochester vote to make MN a solid blue state my entire life.

These blue-collar folks have been slow to change, but they are changing. As the Leftists in St. Paul move further and further away from governance that has anything to do with labor or farming, and only caters to the radical fringe, these people have been shifting red over the past few election cycles. Trumps attention to the needs and dreams of the working class has moved them further red.

... and yet... driving around, I see plenty of Biden signs. A whole lot. I can’t help but shake my head and wonder, what in the hell is it that you believe these radicals have in common with you? They sh*t on you every chance they get, and it’s still not enough to wake you the f**k up!

We’ll see. IF Trump wins MN, it will be because the Iron Range finally has had enough of being taken for granted by the Left, AND the DFL is unable to manufacture enough votes to come from behind and steal it.
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Re: Predictions for Tuesday Nov 3, 2020!
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2020, 09:29:47 AM »
I think the blowback from the lockdowns, especially in blue/purple states and the economic devastation it has done cannot be dismissed...I think the bogus impeachment and coup plots have exposed the DemCom/DeepState/DemCom Media conspiracy...I think the strength Trump has shown over where he was vs Clinton cannot be underestimated...and I don't think the DemCom's understand how appeasing or outright supporting the BLM terrorists and Antifa terrorists and watching their blue cities burn and blue citizens abused and killed and cops of any race being executed is perhaps the biggest blowback against them...it is why there is record Latino and Black support for Trump at a level a RINO Pubbie could never hope to achieve...

Sure, they are cheating and committing fraud on a scale eclipsing 2016...but the enthusiasm gap alone and the fact that some of that fraud will be thrown out indicates to me that the baseline is a victory no less than 2016's...but upside...





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...short of starting CWII early...I do not see how the DemCon's can do better than 2016...so I am predicting Trump meets or exceeds 320 electoral votes...



...but then the next phase of fraud begins...if electors are faithless treasonous louts...

...but as I've said before...us good folks cannot lose...unless we choose to...
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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Re: Predictions for Tuesday Nov 3, 2020!
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2020, 02:11:40 PM »
From your lips to God's ears, Libertas.

We voted on Friday.  The arrogant and power-mad running the early voting site had us wait in line outside behind another couple until they deemed it acceptable for us to enter, and yet stood in the doorway to make sure we went in at their speed, not ours.  Then, when finished voting, the door at the other end of the room was indicated as an exit without mentioning (the sneaky sonsab itches) we had to walk all the way around the building back to the parking lot.  No crossing past people coming in, donchaknow, despite masks and plexiglass.

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Re: Predictions for Tuesday Nov 3, 2020!
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2020, 03:04:47 PM »
Yeah...I'll see what it is like in the morning...see what the idjits have prepared...not aware of a backdoor there but then again it is a fire station...probably doors all over...can have us go out the big doors they are at least on the same side as the parking lot...

Digging out my mask saying it is about control not safety...

sumbichez...   ::outrage::

Oh, remembered something else I gotta get in case DemCom terrorists do something stupid like go apesh*t in these red lands...rough-cut chewing tobacco...won't have the smoke in my eyes from a cigar interfering with my view...and the added bonus of smiling and spitting brown fluid their direction...

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ETA - Got an e-mail from Emmer my Rep, good guy...

In a polling place, only authorized people can be present. Campaigning is not allowed and political materials cannot be worn.

Wonder if my smart-ass mask is a violation...not political per se...just factual.  But I do hope DemCom's dare go Heels Up Harris at our precinct...will put an end to that crap likitty-split!  100' rule here...I'll pace it off.   ;)

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Re: Predictions for Tuesday Nov 3, 2020!
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2020, 06:14:29 PM »
I live near Mpls. No Trump signs because who want's their car keyed or worse.
The libs want to turn northern MN into some kinda game park or wilderness to visit on occasion.
I see an ad on TV about the meanies who want to turn the state over to 'foreign mining interests'.

The DOJ wanted to send pollwatchers to MN but the govt said no way. Invitation only.
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Re: Predictions for Tuesday Nov 3, 2020!
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2020, 08:11:22 AM »
Well, you might want to consider bugging out...when the scum discovers the DemCom's shined them on again...it'll be another flaming pit of socialism at its best...

I did my duty, one of the first in line as is my custom...no issues, no Karen's admonishing this that or the other fracking thing...smooth easy peasy in and out...

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Re: Predictions for Tuesday Nov 3, 2020!
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2020, 11:22:40 AM »
Whoa!  In a sane world this would be the sensible outcome...



It's possible in a mathematical sense...but unlikely given the level of fraud, corruption and criminality we know about and have yet to discover.

So...nothing has changed...carry on!
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Re: Predictions for Tuesday Nov 3, 2020!
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2020, 10:59:10 PM »
I'm mostly confident. But realize the Dems are experts at stealing elections.
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Re: Predictions for Tuesday Nov 3, 2020!
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2020, 04:50:56 AM »
Sick feeling this AM, he has to talk PA,GA,NC & MI to win now. Another gun grabber in Arizona ::pullhair::

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Re: Predictions for Tuesday Nov 3, 2020!
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2020, 07:51:17 AM »
Family is freaking out. 

They - "we're screwed"

Me - "Nope, banana republic shyt, predicted larceny, predicted massive fraud with mail-in ballots, predicted criminality at polls, predicted lies and propaganda...all of this was warned...we are not screwed, only idiots are screwed"

They - "I cannot believe this is happening...x,y & z has to swing to Trump or all is lost"

Me - "So?  What part of 'banana republic' you fail to understand?  The kind of shyt that happens in a banana republic can go any direction...but if you refuse to engage...we'll yes...then you've chosen to be an idiot...and are screwed.  The wise reorient their thinking to reality and act accordingly...that may mean different things and different levels for folks...but there it is."

All options are on the table...naturally I am attracted to the "screw me?, nah, screw you!" options...

Liberty, it isn't dead till I am.

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Re: Predictions for Tuesday Nov 3, 2020!
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2020, 08:11:16 AM »
Yeah, I know that I'm in the doghouse (again).
I answered several panicky phone calls last night from family and friends fearful about the race. I guess they didn't care for my analogy - that the election was like a runaway train, out of control and hurtling toward the burnt out bridge, and scoffing at my news that I had managed to fix the cigarette lighter.
The plain unvarnished truth is that we're f**ked. We're f**ked as a society, we're f**ked as a party, and we're f**ked as a nation. Last night's fiasco demonstrates conclusively that there are too many mindless morons to survive. Even a Trump win would represent only a temporary reprieve.
The good news is that we no longer need to hold our breath or our tongues. I hate the miserable motherf**kers and wish them the most painful of possible deaths. With any luck I will have the opportunity to hasten the fates of many of them.
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Re: Predictions for Tuesday Nov 3, 2020!
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2020, 08:38:34 AM »
NC was called for incumbent Governor Goober Cooper-D, although Fox News is right now reporting Forrest ahead.

Anyhoo, listening to local radio this a.m., a man called in, said he voted for the R for Governor (Dan Forrest), but his wife and his two daughters, although they voted for Trump, voted for Cooper-D because all three are in the medical field (one MD, two nurses) and feeeeeeeeeeeeeel that masks MUST STILL BE MANDATED.  Forrest would make them voluntary.

Frustrating  ::pullhair:: that even the medical "professionals" don't know MASKS DON'T WORK for the Chinkypox.
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Re: Predictions for Tuesday Nov 3, 2020!
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2020, 08:47:11 AM »
"Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer." - Mark Twain

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