Topic: The O'BamaVoter® "Regrets And Sniffles" Thread

[rickl]

DailyKos readers/commenters are mostly in favor of a primary challenge. Here is one example.

Wow.  Some of the commenters are pushing Al Gore.

Please don't throw me into that briar patch.

[Libertas]

They can push for whoever they want, IDK!

 

And while it is fun enjoying the libtard meltdown...none of those morons is going to vote for anything else but more proglodyte trash...so our only real interest in enjoying this is to a) hope they do run someone against Stymie and b) relishing the spectacle.  Even if it just suppresses libtard voter enthusiasm in the general the exercise is worth encouraging!

 

[trapeze]

Robert Redford joins the ranks of the "regrets and sniffles" crowd with this column in the PuffHo:

One reason I supported President Obama is because he said we must protect clean air, water and lands. But what good is it to say the right thing unless you act on it?

Since early August, three administration decisions -- on Arctic drilling, the Keystone XL pipeline and the ozone that causes smog -- have all favored dirty industry over public health and a clean environment. Like so many others, I'm beginning to wonder just where the man stands.

For months, the Environmental Protection Agency has been poised to issue new ozone rules to reduce the smog that causes asthma attacks and other respiratory ills. We badly need these new standards, which the EPA estimates could prevent 12,000 premature deaths a year.

On Friday, though, the White House put the new rules on ice. The result: these vital protections will be delayed until at least 2013 - conveniently after next year's presidential election.

Sucker.

I have to believe that President Obama still knows it's important to protect clean air, water and lands. Like so many, I'm waiting for him to stand up for all that. I'm waiting for him to stand up for our future. But we can't wait forever.

Stuck on stupid.

Great pic of old leather face at the Politico.

[Glock32]

I don't think it's entirely hyperbole to observe that much of their angst stems from the fact that the Bamster hasn't yet packed people like us into Gulags. Some of these True Believer cretins seriously wanted reeducation camps and unmarked graves.

[IronDioPriest]

Redford: "Like so many others, I'm beginning to wonder just where the man stands."

Really? You don't know yet?? Are you freaking retarded?

[Pandora]

Astounding.  Stricter ozone regulations, really?  The man has been issuing Executive Orders like nobody's business; what exactly do they want him to decree that he hasn't already?!

[Libertas]

You know the answer to that one Pan, but by declaring it the whole cat would be out of the bag...and we'd be in a shootin' civil war for sure!

[IronDioPriest]

They want him to go full-on double dictator.

[Pandora]

They want him to go full-on double dictator.

I guess so.  Ya know what "they" say, "be careful what you wish for".  Does Redford believe he'll be exempt?  Apparently so .... until they come for his Sundance holdings ......

Redford and his ilk remind me of the wealthy Cubans who were so enamored of Castro until he and his army turned on them like a pack of vicious dogs, as portrayed in The Lost City.

[Alphabet Soup]

They want him to go full-on double dictator.

"It's for your own good, comrade".....Ptew! 

[Predator Don]

This is what happens when your party is built on the support of 3,937,938,000 individual  groups with thier own little causes.

We need clean water! We need clean air! We need no nukes! We need no war! We need free healthcare! We need more social programs! We need less fossil fuels! We need more solar! We need more....we need more....we need more..... It never ends.,,,As we are reading with great delight.

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I found this at AoS. Some wussy writing for Rolling Stone says, darn it, he just can't believe O'Bama anymore...

Listening to Obama talk about jobs and shared prosperity yesterday reminded me that we are back in campaign mode and Barack Obama has started doing again what he does best – play the part of a progressive. He's good at it. It sounds like he has a natural affinity for union workers and ordinary people when he makes these speeches. But his policies are crafted by representatives of corporate/financial America, who happen to entirely make up his inner circle.

I just don't believe this guy anymore, and it's become almost painful to listen to him.

As usual...lot's of fun to be had in reading the comments.

[Pandora]

I found this at AoS. Some wussy writing for Rolling Stone says, darn it, he just can't believe O'Bama anymore...

Listening to Obama talk about jobs and shared prosperity yesterday reminded me that we are back in campaign mode and Barack Obama has started doing again what he does best – play the part of a progressive. He's good at it. It sounds like he has a natural affinity for union workers and ordinary people when he makes these speeches. But his policies are crafted by representatives of corporate/financial America, who happen to entirely make up his inner circle.

I just don't believe this guy anymore, and it's become almost painful to listen to him.

As usual...lot's of fun to be had in reading the comments.

I so feel for these suckas.   

[Glock32]

[trapeze]

I feel that I have to include this essay by VDH since it's about the subject at hand and was mentioned by Rush today...

Strange indeed is the sudden Democratic furor at Barack Obama. In fairness to the president, though, much of it seems to be a matter of scapegoating.

On the domestic front, for example, we forget that Obama “went big” on the stimulus, giving a number of speeches about the “historic” size of his “investments” and why we should not worry about the timid naysayers. At the time, he was widely praised for his audacity. He also went big on Obamacare, despite worries from party centrists. Again, he was praised for forcing through such a radically new program. In other words, few Democrats have tried so eagerly to advance the liberal domestic agenda. His appointments, the politics at the Department of Justice and the EPA, and his use of executive fiat to circumvent bothersome laws bear that out.

If Obama were enjoying a 60 percent approval rating and the economy were humming at 5 percent annual growth and 5 percent unemployment, the Democrats would be singing his praises despite his stumbles. The problem Obama poses to Democrats is not his policy but his popularity — in their ‘what-if’ minds, he is sinking because he did not do enough rather than far too much.

In other words, the furor comes not so much because he has embarrassed them on national security and seems increasingly detached from the job, but because that he nearly destroyed the congressional Democrats in 2010, often hovers below 40 percent in popularity, and has the potential to really do some big-time damage to the party in 2012.

But again, why is that?

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Rush responds...

I think Victor Davis Hanson is over-thinking this. When I first saw this, I thought that, but I'm gonna mention it to you anyway.  "Were Obama to show the same flexibility on the economy as he has on the War on Terror he still might revitalize the economy a bit."  For example, if he would "junk the Keynesian model, radically revise and simplify the tax code, address entitlements, talk up employers, prune regulations, and compromise on spending cuts, he still might revitalize the economy a bit.  It's hard to destroy the greatest economy in history in three years," Victor Davis Hanson writes, although I'd say Obama has done better at it than anybody would have thought. "Then, when his numbers improved, he would win Democratic adulation for his Clinton-like savvy."

Now, let's look at this.  To think that Obama is gonna change this radically on his economic policies is a bit of a stretch.  And you know of my profound respect for Victor Davis Hanson, we've interviewed him for the Limbaugh Letter and I've spoken to him a number of times.  And while he didn't close Gitmo, and while he expanded Afghanistan, and while he did go to war in Libya, and while we're still in Iraq, that's just the continuation of what was.  That really wasn't the repudiation of anything.  But for Obama to pull similar moves on his own economic policies is something I can't see.  Obama's not gonna junk his Keynesian approach.  Obama's not gonna junk this whole business of growing the economy by growing government spending.  He's not gonna lower taxes on producers and the wealth creators.  

Now, Victor Davis Hanson is saying what if he does, though, what if he did do that?  And what if it revived him?  Victor Davis Hanson's point is, then, his approval numbers would rise and even his Democrat opposition right now would revel and how he's outfoxed us, the same way they reveled in how Clinton outfoxed us.  Remember, I've said this I don't know how many times, I think one of the big reasons for Clinton's popularity was how he outfoxed Newt and how he outfoxed us, not what Clinton did, but that he defeated us.  Remember, we are hated more than Al-Qaeda is hated by these people.  This is Victor Davis Hanson's point.  If Obama can come up with a way to pull a rabbit out of his hat here and really outfox us and use our own ideas as his, and they work, that he can turn this all around and resume being adored and adulated by people who are now angry at him.  I just don't see him doing it. I can't see him repudiating himself this way.

There's a bit more at the link.

[Libertas]

Hey, lemme help you down those stairs Mr. President...

 

[IronDioPriest]

...this essay by VDH...

(From a little further down the column...)

...But remember, for all the jokes about his teleprompted eloquence and canned monotonous speeches, it is not all that easy to be eloquent on a teleprompter, and what now sounds trite, canned, and predictable, just three years ago brought paramedics to fainting audiences. The problem is not just Obama, but his rigid adherence to a statist economy that has terrified capital-laden employers into near complete stasis.

Were Obama to show the same flexibility on the economy as he has on the War on Terror (junk the Keynesian model, radically revise and simplify the tax code, address entitlements, talk up employers, prune regulations, and compromise on spending cuts), he still might revitalize the economy a bit — it’s hard to destroy the greatest economy in history in three years. Then, when his numbers improved, he would win Democratic adulation for his Clinton-like savvy.

"Flexibility on the economy" would obviously mean abandoning a "rigid adherence to a statist economy", but it is that rigidity that is producing the desired result - terrified employers. Flexibility works against his goals.

I do not assume that Barack Hussein Obama values "Democratic adulation for his Clinton-like savvy". His perception of his personal value is one and the same with the success of his ideology. He let this be known, when he stated that he would rather be a "really good one-term president" than a bad two-termer. In his mind, doing good is destroying the engine of capitalism, and he will judge himself on that basis, not on adulation from Democrats.

Pundits who assume that the same things drive this man that seem to universally drive all politicians are making a grave error in my opinion. He is in re-election desperation mode now, to be sure. But not because he wants favor and adulation for making things "better" in the eyes of people who seek a return to prosperity. It's because he knows that if he loses, his "accomplishments" are at risk. So he'll lie right to the faces of the American people in order to make them think he wants their adulation for wanting what they want. But it's only so he can continue his destruction.

ETA: Rush said it better than me. That's why he's Rush, and I'm not.
 

[Pandora]

Some men just want to see the world burn.

[Libertas]

We have to work in the name Nero into his moniker...President Nero Obama...or something like that.

My brain is tired and my creative juices spent...