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The inevitable distancing of Dems from OWS
« on: November 20, 2011, 02:09:36 PM »
http://bigjournalism.com/jjmnolte/2011/11/18/panicked-ap-attempts-to-memory-hole-democrats-occupy-endorsements/

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Occupy Wall Street’s imploding, Obama and the Democrats own the chaos, and now the AP is panicking.
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Re: The inevitable distancing of Dems from OWS
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2011, 02:31:27 PM »
  Not to worry the brain dead forgot already!The rest of us will remember long after the history books are rewritten.
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Re: The inevitable distancing of Dems from OWS
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2011, 04:02:41 PM »
Another example why I don't really care to interact with democrats. I've had this type of discussion with some, pointing out the double standard, the hypocricy, and I usually get the vacant stare of someone who believes what they are told or the predictable " republicans are worse", which is sad, because there is plenty of disgust within the republican party, but when I've asked for a example....I can't get one.

That's about the time I know I'm dealing with a mind numbed robot and I need to move along.
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Re: The inevitable distancing of Dems from OWS
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2011, 04:15:14 PM »
Another example why I don't really care to interact with democrats. I've had this type of discussion with some, pointing out the double standard, the hypocricy, and I usually get the vacant stare of someone who believes what they are told or the predictable " republicans are worse", which is sad, because there is plenty of disgust within the republican party, but when I've asked for a example....I can't get one.

That's about the time I know I'm dealing with a mind numbed robot and I need to move along.

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Re: The inevitable distancing of Dems from OWS
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2011, 04:53:48 PM »
Another example why I don't really care to interact with democrats. I've had this type of discussion with some, pointing out the double standard, the hypocricy, and I usually get the vacant stare of someone who believes what they are told or the predictable " republicans are worse", which is sad, because there is plenty of disgust within the republican party, but when I've asked for a example....I can't get one.

That's about the time I know I'm dealing with a mind numbed robot and I need to move along.

 Try not to engage at all and save your blood pressure from going up. ::puke::


The discussion was with the daughter of long time family friends of my father. We were neighbors when I was a child and I had not seen them, literally, in decades. I'll be nice and say the families had grown apart because of the "differences in political, religious, you name it" thought, but my parents had kept in contact....They were thier card playing buddies and always tried to keep the differences separate in social gatherings, etc, but over the years had become difficult. Both families had moved and contact had been rare to non existant over the last decade, but I know my mom ( who is a little fiery at times) had a "discussion" or two via phone and aparantly wasn't cordial when, inevitably, the liberal felt the need to say something stupid..... Hope you get the drift.

So, I'm told they are moving from Florida back to Ohio...and are stopping by..... Wanted to see the family and go to dinner. I'm thinking...Ok, Im cool with it cause I'm not gonna say anything, just be polite, eat, wish them well, yada, yada......But they had their 40 something daughter with them, as ultra liberal a person you will ever meet and frankly, she could not be cordial and I listened to her drival as long as i could...... Actually, it was quite sad to witness.....Plus I could see my mom seething.

I don't remember every comment I made, but I ended the discussion by stating I came to respectfully see some old family friends and exchange old stories and pleasantries, but for the fact you have a bitter, self absorbed, selfish daughter who cannot keep her religious ( athiest) and political ( liberal) views to herslf, eventually re inforcing why I really have no time for democrats and our families have grown apart....

But I blame myself...I know the behavior of liberals and should have declined the invitation.
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Re: The inevitable distancing of Dems from OWS
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2011, 07:27:49 PM »
You know what they say, "no good deed goes unpunished". ::facepalm::
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Re: The inevitable distancing of Dems from OWS
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2011, 02:47:42 AM »
Another example why I don't really care to interact with democrats. I've had this type of discussion with some, pointing out the double standard, the hypocricy, and I usually get the vacant stare of someone who believes what they are told or the predictable " republicans are worse", which is sad, because there is plenty of disgust within the republican party, but when I've asked for a example....I can't get one.

That's about the time I know I'm dealing with a mind numbed robot and I need to move along.

Don ... If you watch "The Five" on FOX you'll notice the tactic of  " By The Way Bob " Beckel when caught flat-footed by some current gaffe or instance of hypocricy on the part of the left . The best he can do is harken back to something Nixon did .

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Re: The inevitable distancing of Dems from OWS
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2011, 06:50:42 AM »
Another example why I don't really care to interact with democrats. I've had this type of discussion with some, pointing out the double standard, the hypocricy, and I usually get the vacant stare of someone who believes what they are told or the predictable " republicans are worse", which is sad, because there is plenty of disgust within the republican party, but when I've asked for a example....I can't get one.

That's about the time I know I'm dealing with a mind numbed robot and I need to move along.

Don ... If you watch "The Five" on FOX you'll notice the tactic of  " By The Way Bob " Beckel when caught flat-footed by some current gaffe or instance of hypocricy on the part of the left . The best he can do is harken back to something Nixon did .

That tubby hack is reason #1 why I will not watch that damned show!  Fox has got to get off their retarded "fair & balanced" schtick and start beating the effing crap out of the Left 24/7/365!

As for tubby hack, maybe they could lure him off the set somehow...maybe have Megan McCain show up with a garbage sack full of Krispy Kreme's...
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Re: The inevitable distancing of Dems from OWS
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2011, 08:58:29 AM »
See all you OWS supporters out there, stuff like this is why even your rabid communist leadership is abandoning you - can't have you filthy cretins letting the actual voters see your true face.

http://www.dailycal.org/2011/11/18/man-throws-aluminum-water-bottle-at-uc-berkeley-students-face/

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A man allegedly threw an aluminum water bottle at a UC Berkeley student Thursday evening on campus, causing minor injuries to the victim’s face.

At about 5:09 p.m., the female student was approached by a man at “the northeast exterior of the Haas Pavilion,” according to a UCPD crime alert. The man asked the student if she was going to the protest on Sproul Plaza, and when the victim answered “no,” the suspect yelled at her.

“People like you are the reason that California is in debt,” he said, according to the crime alert.

The suspect then allegedly threw a full aluminum water bottle at the victim’s face. The victim then called UCPD and refused medical treatment for the bruise on her cheek. UCPD officers responded to the scene and checked the area, but could not locate the suspect.

...and I guess this illustrates just how far they've fallen. When you have to resort to intimidation and violence to get people to join your cause, well...that kind of speaks for itself now doesn't it?
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Re: The inevitable distancing of Dems from OWS
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2011, 09:08:35 AM »
They shouldn't be allowed to distance themselves.



There IS no distance.
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Re: The inevitable distancing of Dems from OWS
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2011, 11:03:34 AM »
or the predictable " republicans are worse", which is sad, because there is plenty of disgust within the republican party, but when I've asked for a example....I can't get one.
While I am not a strong believer in the theory that liberals can be shamed, I usually try anyway.  

When confronted with this one I usually thake the bent of " Didn't they teach you logic in your government indoctrination-centered school? First, Tu Quoque is a fallacy. Second, you can't provide an example of the equivalent behavior of which you accuse  others. Third,  you just implicitly admitted that the bias exists and therefore I am right, and you are moron whose understanding of the world is so limited you probably shouldn't be allowed to walk the streets without an adult. "

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Re: The inevitable distancing of Dems from OWS
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2011, 11:31:08 AM »
Another example why I don't really care to interact with democrats. I've had this type of discussion with some, pointing out the double standard, the hypocricy, and I usually get the vacant stare of someone who believes what they are told or the predictable " republicans are worse", which is sad, because there is plenty of disgust within the republican party, but when I've asked for a example....I can't get one.

That's about the time I know I'm dealing with a mind numbed robot and I need to move along.

Don ... If you watch "The Five" on FOX you'll notice the tactic of  " By The Way Bob " Beckel when caught flat-footed by some current gaffe or instance of hypocricy on the part of the left . The best he can do is harken back to something Nixon did .


I don't watch "The Five" too often....but often enough to watch Beckel step in it.


What drives me nuts about beckel, and this is only my opinion because I don't know the man personally, only thru tv coverage, is his claim of being a "born again" christian. Please forgive me if I offend anyone, but I can't make the connection between liberal beliefs and christianity. They are diameterically opposites, imho. So when I listen to him, all I hear is a hypocrite because it is my opinion you cannot be both a liberal and christian.

So, he makes my skin crawl.
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Re: The inevitable distancing of Dems from OWS
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2011, 12:00:20 PM »
That is a dang good chart IDP, I'm gonna keep a copy of that guy!

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Re: The inevitable distancing of Dems from OWS
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2011, 01:07:22 PM »
Another example why I don't really care to interact with democrats. I've had this type of discussion with some, pointing out the double standard, the hypocricy, and I usually get the vacant stare of someone who believes what they are told or the predictable " republicans are worse", which is sad, because there is plenty of disgust within the republican party, but when I've asked for a example....I can't get one.

That's about the time I know I'm dealing with a mind numbed robot and I need to move along.

Don ... If you watch "The Five" on FOX you'll notice the tactic of  " By The Way Bob " Beckel when caught flat-footed by some current gaffe or instance of hypocricy on the part of the left . The best he can do is harken back to something Nixon did .


I don't watch "The Five" too often....but often enough to watch Beckel step in it.


What drives me nuts about beckel, and this is only my opinion because I don't know the man personally, only thru tv coverage, is his claim of being a "born again" christian. Please forgive me if I offend anyone, but I can't make the connection between liberal beliefs and christianity. They are diameterically opposites, imho. So when I listen to him, all I hear is a hypocrite because it is my opinion you cannot be both a liberal and christian.

So, he makes my skin crawl.

What gets me about "By The Way Bob" is that nothing he says concerning his resume' can be verified . He and I should be the same age and yet he talks about campaigning for RFK when we would have been sophomores in high school . Other stuff , dates and places are all very murky . I don't think the blowhard has done half the stuff he claims .

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Re: The inevitable distancing of Dems from OWS
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2011, 01:54:01 PM »
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What drives me nuts about beckel, and this is only my opinion because I don't know the man personally, only thru tv coverage, is his claim of being a "born again" christian. Please forgive me if I offend anyone, but I can't make the connection between liberal beliefs and christianity. They are diameterically opposites, imho. So when I listen to him, all I hear is a hypocrite because it is my opinion you cannot be both a liberal and christian.

I agree wholeheartedly with this observation PD.

Just last night I was talking with my Sister and she asked about church. I explained that I'm currently in the market for one because the pastor at the church I had been attended proclaimed recently that he was a proud socialist. I asked him about how he could claim to be a Christian and support a political ideal that has been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions of people over the course of the last 100 years. He dodged the question and went on to a different topic.

You simply can not claim to be a Christian AND be a socialist at the same time. Supporting the socialist current and past agenda of genocide and murder is something that a real Christian could never abide.

Though I haven't been able to do so as yet, I seriously plan to go on the offensive with this because I have a few friends that are democrats and claim to be Christians. I suspect that I will either A) have some new conservative friends when I'm done talking with them next time or B) I'll be looking for some new conservative friends when I'm done talking with them next time. Either way is fine by me at this point. I can't stand the hypocrisy of the left any more.
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Re: The inevitable distancing of Dems from OWS
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2011, 01:55:06 PM »
Another example why I don't really care to interact with democrats. I've had this type of discussion with some, pointing out the double standard, the hypocricy, and I usually get the vacant stare of someone who believes what they are told or the predictable " republicans are worse", which is sad, because there is plenty of disgust within the republican party, but when I've asked for a example....I can't get one.

That's about the time I know I'm dealing with a mind numbed robot and I need to move along.

Don ... If you watch "The Five" on FOX you'll notice the tactic of  " By The Way Bob " Beckel when caught flat-footed by some current gaffe or instance of hypocricy on the part of the left . The best he can do is harken back to something Nixon did .


I don't watch "The Five" too often....but often enough to watch Beckel step in it.


What drives me nuts about beckel, and this is only my opinion because I don't know the man personally, only thru tv coverage, is his claim of being a "born again" christian. Please forgive me if I offend anyone, but I can't make the connection between liberal beliefs and christianity. They are diameterically opposites, imho. So when I listen to him, all I hear is a hypocrite because it is my opinion you cannot be both a liberal and christian.

So, he makes my skin crawl.

It is my belief that most "religious" leftists wear their religion like an accoutrement. They drag it out of the closet when desired and parade it around for everyone to see, then dump it back "where it belongs" to languish until the next calling.

Øbozo is a perfect example. He is the last person I would consider religious. His displayed knowledge and understanding of scripture or religious precepts - Christian or otherwise is pathetic. But he and his acolytes will trip all over each other to rush to exclaim and extol the strength of his faith.

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Re: The inevitable distancing of Dems from OWS
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2011, 02:00:52 PM »
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What drives me nuts about beckel, and this is only my opinion because I don't know the man personally, only thru tv coverage, is his claim of being a "born again" christian. Please forgive me if I offend anyone, but I can't make the connection between liberal beliefs and christianity. They are diameterically opposites, imho. So when I listen to him, all I hear is a hypocrite because it is my opinion you cannot be both a liberal and christian.

I agree wholeheartedly with this observation PD.

Just last night I was talking with my Sister and she asked about church. I explained that I'm currently in the market for one because the pastor at the church I had been attended proclaimed recently that he was a proud socialist. I asked him about how he could claim to be a Christian and support a political ideal that has been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions of people over the course of the last 100 years. He dodged the question and went on to a different topic.

You simply can not claim to be a Christian AND be a socialist at the same time. Supporting the socialist current and past agenda of genocide and murder is something that a real Christian could never abide.

Though I haven't been able to do so as yet, I seriously plan to go on the offensive with this because I have a few friends that are democrats and claim to be Christians. I suspect that I will either A) have some new conservative friends when I'm done talking with them next time or B) I'll be looking for some new conservative friends when I'm done talking with them next time. Either way is fine by me at this point. I can't stand the hypocrisy of the left any more.

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Several churches in New York City have been sheltering Occupy Wall Street protesters since the city banned sleeping in Zuccotti Park. Trinity Church even has a petition which states, "The faith community in New York City has been a critical source of support for Occupy Wall Street. And now that the occupiers are being prevented from camping in Zuccotti Park, that support is more critical than ever."

So...why are churches supporting the Occupiers?

The Occupiers are Socialists and they are at war with America, not the same kind of war that our military fights overseas, but war nonetheless. It is an internal, ideological war. They want to obliterate Capitalism and any church that helps them has taken sides with Socialism and is supporting our enemy.

As an aside:  And WHAT THE HELL IS IT with this "faith COMMUNITY", bullsht?!  That and "faith TRADITION"?!

It's your faith and/or your religion or it isn't.  Fer CRISSAKE.
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Re: The inevitable distancing of Dems from OWS
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2011, 02:45:38 PM »
Another example why I don't really care to interact with democrats. I've had this type of discussion with some, pointing out the double standard, the hypocricy, and I usually get the vacant stare of someone who believes what they are told or the predictable " republicans are worse", which is sad, because there is plenty of disgust within the republican party, but when I've asked for a example....I can't get one.

That's about the time I know I'm dealing with a mind numbed robot and I need to move along.

Don ... If you watch "The Five" on FOX you'll notice the tactic of  " By The Way Bob " Beckel when caught flat-footed by some current gaffe or instance of hypocricy on the part of the left . The best he can do is harken back to something Nixon did .


I don't watch "The Five" too often....but often enough to watch Beckel step in it.


What drives me nuts about beckel, and this is only my opinion because I don't know the man personally, only thru tv coverage, is his claim of being a "born again" christian. Please forgive me if I offend anyone, but I can't make the connection between liberal beliefs and christianity. They are diameterically opposites, imho. So when I listen to him, all I hear is a hypocrite because it is my opinion you cannot be both a liberal and christian.

So, he makes my skin crawl.

It is my belief that most "religious" leftists wear their religion like an accoutrement. They drag it out of the closet when desired and parade it around for everyone to see, then dump it back "where it belongs" to languish until the next calling.

Øbozo is a perfect example. He is the last person I would consider religious. His displayed knowledge and understanding of scripture or religious precepts - Christian or otherwise is pathetic. But he and his acolytes will trip all over each other to rush to exclaim and extol the strength of his faith.

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I think they're called Pharisee's, right?
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Re: The inevitable distancing of Dems from OWS
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2011, 02:46:31 PM »
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What drives me nuts about beckel, and this is only my opinion because I don't know the man personally, only thru tv coverage, is his claim of being a "born again" christian. Please forgive me if I offend anyone, but I can't make the connection between liberal beliefs and christianity. They are diameterically opposites, imho. So when I listen to him, all I hear is a hypocrite because it is my opinion you cannot be both a liberal and christian.

I agree wholeheartedly with this observation PD.

Just last night I was talking with my Sister and she asked about church. I explained that I'm currently in the market for one because the pastor at the church I had been attended proclaimed recently that he was a proud socialist. I asked him about how he could claim to be a Christian and support a political ideal that has been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions of people over the course of the last 100 years. He dodged the question and went on to a different topic.

You simply can not claim to be a Christian AND be a socialist at the same time. Supporting the socialist current and past agenda of genocide and murder is something that a real Christian could never abide.

Though I haven't been able to do so as yet, I seriously plan to go on the offensive with this because I have a few friends that are democrats and claim to be Christians. I suspect that I will either A) have some new conservative friends when I'm done talking with them next time or B) I'll be looking for some new conservative friends when I'm done talking with them next time. Either way is fine by me at this point. I can't stand the hypocrisy of the left any more.

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Several churches in New York City have been sheltering Occupy Wall Street protesters since the city banned sleeping in Zuccotti Park. Trinity Church even has a petition which states, "The faith community in New York City has been a critical source of support for Occupy Wall Street. And now that the occupiers are being prevented from camping in Zuccotti Park, that support is more critical than ever."

So...why are churches supporting the Occupiers?

The Occupiers are Socialists and they are at war with America, not the same kind of war that our military fights overseas, but war nonetheless. It is an internal, ideological war. They want to obliterate Capitalism and any church that helps them has taken sides with Socialism and is supporting our enemy.

As an aside:  And WHAT THE HELL IS IT with this "faith COMMUNITY", bullsht?!  That and "faith TRADITION"?!

It's your faith and/or your religion or it isn't.  Fer CRISSAKE.

More bastardization of the lexicon in the advancement of Leftist non-speak gobbledegookinesss!

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Re: The inevitable distancing of Dems from OWS
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2011, 04:27:00 PM »
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What drives me nuts about beckel, and this is only my opinion because I don't know the man personally, only thru tv coverage, is his claim of being a "born again" christian. Please forgive me if I offend anyone, but I can't make the connection between liberal beliefs and christianity. They are diameterically opposites, imho. So when I listen to him, all I hear is a hypocrite because it is my opinion you cannot be both a liberal and christian.

I agree wholeheartedly with this observation PD.

Just last night I was talking with my Sister and she asked about church. I explained that I'm currently in the market for one because the pastor at the church I had been attended proclaimed recently that he was a proud socialist. I asked him about how he could claim to be a Christian and support a political ideal that has been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions of people over the course of the last 100 years. He dodged the question and went on to a different topic.

You simply can not claim to be a Christian AND be a socialist at the same time. Supporting the socialist current and past agenda of genocide and murder is something that a real Christian could never abide.

Though I haven't been able to do so as yet, I seriously plan to go on the offensive with this because I have a few friends that are democrats and claim to be Christians. I suspect that I will either A) have some new conservative friends when I'm done talking with them next time or B) I'll be looking for some new conservative friends when I'm done talking with them next time. Either way is fine by me at this point. I can't stand the hypocrisy of the left any more.

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Several churches in New York City have been sheltering Occupy Wall Street protesters since the city banned sleeping in Zuccotti Park. Trinity Church even has a petition which states, "The faith community in New York City has been a critical source of support for Occupy Wall Street. And now that the occupiers are being prevented from camping in Zuccotti Park, that support is more critical than ever."

So...why are churches supporting the Occupiers?

The Occupiers are Socialists and they are at war with America, not the same kind of war that our military fights overseas, but war nonetheless. It is an internal, ideological war. They want to obliterate Capitalism and any church that helps them has taken sides with Socialism and is supporting our enemy.

As an aside:  And WHAT THE HELL IS IT with this "faith COMMUNITY", bullsht?!  That and "faith TRADITION"?!

It's your faith and/or your religion or it isn't.  Fer CRISSAKE.


Pan,

Churches are inundated with the "social justice" message. It is no longer in vogue to crucify the flesh and flee from sin, you can now live as you please and I must accept your lifestyle you choose while sitting next to you in church. Sin? There is no sin. Only acceptence.
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