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Re: Firefly
« Reply #60 on: November 25, 2011, 12:50:49 PM »
...There are no muslims on Star Trek...

I've thought that from TNG onward - with the added context of Klingon warlike religion, reverence for ancient warlord history and death in battle, barbaric behavior, etc - that Klingons were analogous to Muslims. Notice that Worf was only successful at behaving civilly and interacting with humans (Americans) to the degree that he was assimilated into the human (American) culture. In those areas in which he was less assimilated, he was not compatible.

So no Muslims per se, but I think some of the difficulties in dealing with Muslims were explored whenever there was a Klingon storyline.

The joke is probably acryphal but widely attributed to Roddenberry: Yasser Arafat complained to Gene Roddenberry that there were no Muslim crew members on “Star Trek’s” Starship Enterprise.  Roddenberry tells him that’s because it takes place in the future. (hint-hint)  ;D

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Re: Firefly
« Reply #61 on: November 25, 2011, 11:16:22 PM »

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Re: Firefly
« Reply #62 on: November 26, 2011, 04:10:54 AM »
Farscape: Episode 3

Gack.. it's getting hard to continue watching this drek.

All the characters are like at some sort of William Shatner convention...

Each.... word.... is.... sperated.... by..... several..... moments...... of.....






pause.

The acting is 4th grade at best.

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Re: Firefly
« Reply #63 on: November 26, 2011, 04:13:52 AM »
ABORT !!

Okay... 1/3 the way through episode three and I had to FFWD to the end.... that was worse than watching Beaches.

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« Reply #64 on: November 26, 2011, 05:21:46 AM »
Delnorin,

I thought Farscape had a great premise but after a few episodes, as you've found out, it sucked the big mango.  Lexx was even worse; I couldn't stand that show from the get-go but I gave Farscape a few episodes, and it still failed to sucker me in (as any good tv series should do) and I'm really not that hard to please with tv sci-fi.  I remember a review for Lexx, in the NYSlimes (which I was still reading at the time), which labeled Lexx 'cheap sci-fi porn'.  For once, the Times wasn't far off the mark.

Now if I'm not mistaken, both series were Aussie originals imported here, like we do with a lot of BBC and Channel Four shows from Britain.  But I made note in the more distant past of how Aussie shows rarely make a crossover move to the US and thought it odd at the time.  Both speak English, different dialects and accents, but we can communicate.  No worse than Brit English (which my ex could never understand).  But after watching both Farscape and Lexx, I began to get a raging clue as to why Aussie shows don't seem to make the hop over the Pacific.  Even Aussie movies rarely make a mark here though a rare few do, Mad Max, Gallipoli and The Year Of Living Dangerously being among that number.  We may be great pals on the international stage, but the peoples of the US and Australia definitely have different tastes in television/movie viewing habits.  And I still wonder why.  Our starts as English colonies were quite different, of course, but somehow the distance in miles between our two countries has been a perfect example of Darwinism at work, of the same English people, thanks to distance and isolation, splitting off into two distinct Caucasian species each with their own distinct language, customs -- and humor.

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In looking up something (I forget what, which is why I looked it up in the first place), I came across an Aussie slang dictionary and learned a new word/acronym that I think is quite good when used as an insult, akin to our phrase 'Masters of the Universe', but much more snide:  "Oh he's such a FIGJAM!"  (Oh, he's such a "F*ck I'm Good, Just Ask Me"!)  Figjam, I really do like it.  You could call all the OccupySesameStreet morons figjams because they have no clue how horrid they really are.  But they mean well, with the best of intentions (and we all know how much good intentions matter in the Progressive Church, as good intentions are the bedrock of the liberal belief system, on a par with carbon credit indulgences).  OccupySesameStreeters are enlightened and know better than us, so they protest their ignorance, for all the world to see, by being figjams.  Unfortunately for us, no one asked them.

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Re: Firefly
« Reply #65 on: November 26, 2011, 01:14:05 PM »
ABORT !!

Okay... 1/3 the way through episode three and I had to FFWD to the end.... that was worse than watching Beaches.

Yeah, Farscape is an acquired taste. I probably helps if, like me, you grew up in the Sesame Street/Muppet Show/Fraggle Rock era, and FS started rough. The acting either improved in later episodes, or I just ceased to notice it was bad.  Great art or an Epic tale  Farscape is not, but it did give me something to watch on Friday nights.  But I  has much the same reaction at first - but got back into it after just watching a later episode that was "better" - and because I was willing to give it a second chance because  I have always loved the muppets and Henson stuff..

In the end I was entertained by Farscape, mostly because the show didn't take itself too seriously and I certainly didn't take it seriously, and it  often took standard SF Tropes and did new things with them.. like the "main character gets duplicated" story- but in Farscape the duplicate stays around for the rest of season.The ship itself  is a living being.. but this time its pregnant.  Etc. I also enjoyed the way that the "bad guys"  kept being forced into allegiances with the crew , and even to a certain extent how each episode started "off balance" and you spent 20 minutes just trying to figure out what was going on.

So yeah,  its good for a lark. IF you want realistic  or inspiring visions of the future,  then no, FS is not the series for that.




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Re: Firefly
« Reply #66 on: December 04, 2011, 02:27:34 AM »
** FarScape **
Okay.. made it up to season 1, episode 10.. half way through....

Can't..... take...

it....






any.....

more....

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« Reply #67 on: December 04, 2011, 08:15:44 AM »
Yeah, I watched a couple episodes of Farscape back in the day and just couldn't get into myself. Just wasn't my cup o' tea.  :D
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Re: Firefly
« Reply #68 on: December 04, 2011, 10:40:19 AM »
Couldn't stand it myself, gave up early.
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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« Reply #69 on: December 05, 2011, 12:35:22 PM »
Farscape (because of the Muppets characters) and Lexx (the twisted sense of humor) probably aren't everyone's cup of tea, but they work for me over 99% of the garbage that makes up American TV today.


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Re: Firefly
« Reply #70 on: December 05, 2011, 12:41:01 PM »
The SciFi channel has an interesting project running right now. It's sort of a prequel to Peter Pan called "Neverland." The production values are extremely sophisticated. The acting is way better than average and the writing seems to be pretty good, too. Part one was last night and the third and fourth hour will air tonight. Hopefully you will be able to catch it on Hulu or something like that without having to wait for it to show up on Netflix. Or maybe the SciFi channel will do a re-broadcast. Not sure if it will hold up all the way to the end but the first half was pretty good.
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Re: Firefly
« Reply #71 on: December 05, 2011, 12:46:26 PM »
Oh rats!  I wanted to catch that!  What time was it on, trap?

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Re: Firefly
« Reply #72 on: December 05, 2011, 01:15:57 PM »
They ran the first part twice, back to back. Started at six pm MST. Check your listings...they might replay it again. Or look for it online. It really was pretty decent. Much better than average. I didn't feel that my time had been wasted at all.
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Re: Firefly
« Reply #73 on: December 05, 2011, 01:34:07 PM »
Okay, it's replaying 7-9, then the new segment from 9-11.

Thanks, trap.
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Re: Firefly
« Reply #74 on: December 05, 2011, 02:16:33 PM »
Actually, if you want to talk something that wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea

Game of Thrones

I don't have HBO, so I'll wait until DVDs come out but, from what I've hear of others seeing it, and from having read the books, this one is a keeper.

BUT

R rated for everything, if ya know what I mean. 

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Re: Firefly
« Reply #75 on: December 05, 2011, 02:27:20 PM »
The George R.R. Martin books upon which GoT is based are excellent reading if one appreciates the genre.

One thing I LOVED about them as opposed to similar works by Richard Jordan or Terry Goodkind: Martin is in NO WAY afraid to kill off main characters. Thus he's able to write a sprawling epic without getting bottlenecked with too damn many characters to follow. Plus, it adds unexpected twists and opens new avenues when a character that it seems the entire series will be reliant upon is snuffed unceremoniously.

Don't have HBO because of the bellycrawling trash Bill Maher. But I will definitely be waiting for GoT to come out on DVD or BlueRay.
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Re: Firefly
« Reply #76 on: December 28, 2011, 09:45:31 AM »
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In a doomsday scenario, hippies will be among the first casualties. So not everything about doomsday will be bad.

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Re: Firefly
« Reply #77 on: December 28, 2011, 12:00:36 PM »
Wow!  I had no idea this took place.  Thank God for FIRE and for Lukianoff catching on to Firefly's "constituency.

BTW, "Serenity" was on TV again on Christmas Eve afternoon and we got sucked in, as usual.
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« Reply #78 on: January 05, 2012, 03:12:23 PM »
We picked up Firefly and Serenity on DVD last week, and we're through the first 4 episodes. Darn good show.
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Re: Firefly
« Reply #79 on: January 05, 2012, 04:02:56 PM »
Yep.  Welcome to the cult.  :D
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