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A Nebraska school district asked a deaf preschooler to change his sign language name because they believe the hand motion he used looked like he was shooting a gun.

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The family of 3-year-old Hunter Spanjer said that their deaf son’s sign gesture violates the Grand Island Public Schools weapons policy.

“He’s deaf, and his name sign, they say, is a violation of their weapons policy,” Brian Spanjer.

Hunter’s father, told Nebraska based news channel KOLN. “It’s a symbol. It’s an actual sign, a registered sign, through (Signing Exact English).”

He also started a Facebook page in an effort to support his son’s sign name, which has garnered nearly 1,000 supporters as of Tuesday afternoon.

The Grand Island school district is hoping to come to a solution to the sign gesture soon.

“We are working with the parents to come to the best solution we can for the child,” Jack Sheard, Grand Island Public Schools spokesperson, told KOLN.

The ACLU is backing the Spanjer family, asking the school district to reconsider making Hunter change his sign gesture.

Found in the comments:

"Denise Bertacchi • 41 minutes ago

I just dug around and found a local TV station story on this. The kid signs his name, which is Hunter, by crossing the first two fingers of both hands and flicking them up and down. The gesture is rapid, but it would look sorta, kinda, maybe like you're shooting two pistols. But it's not like he's cocking back his thumbs, or pulling them out of imaginary holsters, or aiming them at your head...and as a deaf kid the gesture certainly isn't accompanied by him going pow! pow! pow! It looks as much like his drumming with his hands as anything else."
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Re: School Made Deaf Child Change Sign Name, Said It Looked Like Gun
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2012, 02:59:54 PM »
How long until a name like "Hunter" is verboten because of some insane policy?  It's bizarrely amusing when different components of Political Correctness are at odds with each other.  Here we have the disability/ADA thing against the hoplophobic/anti-gun thing.  Watch for exploding heads.
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Re: School Made Deaf Child Change Sign Name, Said It Looked Like Gun
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2012, 03:04:51 PM »
What if the kids' name was Gunnar?
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Re: School Made Deaf Child Change Sign Name, Said It Looked Like Gun
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2012, 04:13:15 PM »
A Nebraska school district asked a deaf preschooler to change his sign language name because they believe the hand motion he used looked like he was shooting a gun.

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The family of 3-year-old Hunter Spanjer said that their deaf son’s sign gesture violates the Grand Island Public Schools weapons policy.

“He’s deaf, and his name sign, they say, is a violation of their weapons policy,” Brian Spanjer.

Hunter’s father, told Nebraska based news channel KOLN. “It’s a symbol. It’s an actual sign, a registered sign, through (Signing Exact English).”

He also started a Facebook page in an effort to support his son’s sign name, which has garnered nearly 1,000 supporters as of Tuesday afternoon.

The Grand Island school district is hoping to come to a solution to the sign gesture soon.

“We are working with the parents to come to the best solution we can for the child,” Jack Sheard, Grand Island Public Schools spokesperson, told KOLN.

The ACLU is backing the Spanjer family, asking the school district to reconsider making Hunter change his sign gesture.

Found in the comments:

"Denise Bertacchi • 41 minutes ago

I just dug around and found a local TV station story on this. The kid signs his name, which is Hunter, by crossing the first two fingers of both hands and flicking them up and down. The gesture is rapid, but it would look sorta, kinda, maybe like you're shooting two pistols. But it's not like he's cocking back his thumbs, or pulling them out of imaginary holsters, or aiming them at your head...and as a deaf kid the gesture certainly isn't accompanied by him going pow! pow! pow! It looks as much like his drumming with his hands as anything else."


I know very little sign language....but one sign comes to mind as a response to THAT request.
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Re: School Made Deaf Child Change Sign Name, Said It Looked Like Gun
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2012, 04:17:24 PM »
The boy is a 3 year-old pre-schooler.  There are official government-district pre-schools now?

In any case, the totalitarians sure are starting to indoctrinate the kids earlier and earlier.

I'd be damned if I'd send my deaf child off to pre-school.
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Re: School Made Deaf Child Change Sign Name, Said It Looked Like Gun
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2012, 04:39:57 PM »

A special school for deaf children to help them
negotiate with a noisy world.

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Re: School Made Deaf Child Change Sign Name, Said It Looked Like Gun
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2012, 05:05:19 PM »
I didn't see in the piece anywhere that it was a school for the deaf.  What I do see is a deaf child, little more than a baby really, being thrown to the tender mercies of the government wolves instead of being helped by his parents to learn how to function in a "noisy world".
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Re: School Made Deaf Child Change Sign Name, Said It Looked Like Gun
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2012, 05:07:51 PM »
I didn't see in the piece anywhere that it was a school for the deaf.  What I do see is a deaf child, little more than a baby really, being thrown to the tender mercies of the government wolves instead of being helped by his parents to learn how to function in a "noisy world".

This is SOOOOO wacky that even the leftist organization Anti-America for criminal liberty union (ACLU) is on the kid's side.
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Re: School Made Deaf Child Change Sign Name, Said It Looked Like Gun
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2012, 05:09:33 PM »
People who completely abandon common sense and dare enforce zero tolerance policy against children in instances like this should be put to the sword.
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Re: School Made Deaf Child Change Sign Name, Said It Looked Like Gun
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2012, 05:10:49 PM »
I didn't see in the piece anywhere that it was a school for the deaf.  What I do see is a deaf child, little more than a baby really, being thrown to the tender mercies of the government wolves instead of being helped by his parents to learn how to function in a "noisy world".

This is SOOOOO wacky that even the leftist organization Anti-America for criminal liberty union (ACLU) is on the kid's side.

Heh. Once in a great while they'll take up a cause that they can point to and say, "See! We're non-paaaaartisssannn."
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Re: School Made Deaf Child Change Sign Name, Said It Looked Like Gun
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2012, 05:15:52 PM »
People who completely abandon common sense and dare enforce zero tolerance policy against children in instances like this should be put to the sword.

Should they be local to you, would they be making your "short list"?   ;)
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Re: School Made Deaf Child Change Sign Name, Said It Looked Like Gun
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2012, 05:24:17 PM »
What if the kids' name was Gunnar?

That's funny. Around these parts Gunnar is a common name

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Re: School Made Deaf Child Change Sign Name, Said It Looked Like Gun
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2012, 06:49:35 PM »
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My doctor told me to start killing people.  Not in those exact words, she said I had to reduce the stress in my life.

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Re: School Made Deaf Child Change Sign Name, Said It Looked Like Gun
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2012, 07:10:55 PM »
What if the kids' name was Gunnar?

That's funny. Around these parts Gunnar is a common name

In Scandinavian parts like Minnie, Gunnar's can still be found.  Almost makes me want to legally change my name, but I respect my heritage and family too much to do it.
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Re: School Made Deaf Child Change Sign Name, Said It Looked Like Gun
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2012, 08:46:35 PM »
What if the kids' name was Gunnar?

That's funny. Around these parts Gunnar is a common name

In Scandinavian parts like Minnie, Gunnar's can still be found.  Almost makes me want to legally change my name, but I respect my heritage and family too much to do it.

The town of Ballard (now consumed by Seattle) has a heavy Scandinavian/Norwegian population. Same for Skagit County in the northern part of the state.

This story makes me want to change my name to "FU" so that I could introduce myself to them.

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Re: School Made Deaf Child Change Sign Name, Said It Looked Like Gun
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2012, 09:13:24 PM »
Maybe I'll write a novel, key character - Gunnar Deadshot.

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« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2012, 10:58:27 AM »
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Re: School Made Deaf Child Change Sign Name, Said It Looked Like Gun
« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2012, 11:09:30 AM »
I've read another account whereby the school administrator avers the "sign is not appropriate for school", so they want the kid to spell out his name by letters instead of using the one sign-language signal for it.

I'd like to know what adverse effect these rocket scientists *think* will have on other 3 year-olds.

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Re: School Made Deaf Child Change Sign Name, Said It Looked Like Gun
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2012, 11:12:40 AM »
Lord, if I was this kid's daddy...
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