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« Reply #180 on: July 14, 2013, 06:20:02 AM »
Rhetorical Question of the Day:

Why does the media neglect/refuse to mention the inconvenient fact that Trayvon Martin assaulted George Zimmerman?
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« Reply #181 on: July 14, 2013, 06:41:27 AM »
Rhetorical Question of the Day:

Why does the media neglect/refuse to mention the inconvenient fact that Trayvon Martin assaulted George Zimmerman?

Well, it's of a piece.  They refused to report on the 'character' of Traygone, his school suspensions, his getting kicked out of his step-mom's home, his drug use, his illegal gun activity, his criminal burglary activity, etc.  Instead, we have stories about his poor grieving mother, who quit having any influence in his life at around the age of two.  When a racist white Hispanic kills an innocent black angel like Traygone, no amount of media 'lying by omission' is beyond the pale.

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« Reply #182 on: July 14, 2013, 06:51:39 AM »
Looks like justice has been served. Now we get to watch the social "justice" at work.
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« Reply #183 on: July 14, 2013, 08:03:46 AM »
Looks like I might be wrong regarding a future civil suit by Traygone's parents.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/19/2702685/floridas-controversial-self-defense.html#storylink=cpy

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Florida’s controversial self-defense law eliminated a citizen’s duty to retreat before using deadly force to confront an attacker. Police and prosecutors statewide have derided the measure, saying the law fosters a shoot-first, ask-questions-later mentality and gives criminal a pass on facing justice.

The law also included a provision that grants “immunity” from prosecution or civil suit if a person is deemed to have acted in self-defense, though lawmakers did not clearly specify exactly who bestows the immunity.

First the racists wanted an arrest.  Once they realized what the law actually said, they knew they needed a conviction, so they pulled all the 'profiling/racism' crap with the media's more-than-willing help.

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« Reply #184 on: July 14, 2013, 08:45:28 AM »
Damn! Does that mean we actually live in a sane world?
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« Reply #185 on: July 14, 2013, 09:01:47 AM »
Damn! Does that mean we actually live in a sane world?
No. It does mean that GZ got lucky he had opposing him some of the lowest I.Q. prosecutors in history.

If you put them iin the same room with Obama, the smartest entity in the room is still the floor. ::hysterical::
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« Reply #186 on: July 14, 2013, 12:29:24 PM »
For your idiot friends who maintain the discredited meme that GZ should have stayed in the vehicle "just like the police ordered him to" I present the NEN transcript. Note that GZ was already out of his truck looking for the apartment number, as requested by the NEN operator, when GZ was told, "you don't need to do that."

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/326700-full-transcript-zimmerman.html
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« Reply #187 on: July 14, 2013, 01:36:28 PM »
If y'all missed watching the somber, sad, ignorant faces of the MSLSD crowd after the verdict, you missed Must See TV!  And yes, Sharpton was his usual race-baiting self.

Zimmerman already has a lawsuit against NBC in the works.  But I expect to see Eric the Red pursue a civil rights violation case against Zimmerman.  Of course, Traygone was denied his civil right -- to be a thug.  Oh well.  Too bad, so sad.  Justice was served on Traygone the night he was killed.

I'm curious to see if Zimmerman sues the State/Corey for malicious prosecution, abuse of office, etc.  That scrunt Corey needs to have the full Nifong put on her 'professional' career.

I want to read about why the IT guy was fired.  Dear ol' Corey refused to answer that question at the post mortem press conference, instead stating they put out a letter.  She's too stupid to be able to remember anything from that letter?  Appears so.

One of the comments I've been seeing, and I love, is that Zimmerman 'profiled' Traygone, and that profiling is illegal.  How stupid these people are.


http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/13/19441838-jury-finds-george-zimmerman-not-guilty?lite&gt1=43001

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Prosecutors said they were disappointed but accepted the decision. Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda told reporters that the case boiled down to a matter of “who was following who.”

“You had a 17-year-old kid who was minding his own business, wearing a hoodie, and gets accosted, gets followed by an individual who wants to be a cop,” he said.

A court spokeswoman, Michelle Kennedy, said that the jurors had “no desire to speak to media,” and she warned reporters that an order protecting their anonymity was still in effect.

Zimmerman, 29, who is of white and Hispanic descent, said he was acting in self-defense when he shot the unarmed Martin, who was black, during an altercation in a gated community of Sanford, Fla., on Feb. 26, 2012.

The NAACP issued a statement shortly after the verdict saying that justice had not prevailed. Roslyn M. Brock, the organization’s chairman, said the case had “re-energized the movement to end racial profiling in the United States.”

Another of Zimmerman’s lawyers, Mark O’Mara, said that the case had become a “civil rights event,” and that Zimmerman had been made a scapegoat.

Answering a reporter’s hypothetical question, he said: “I think that things would have been different if George Zimmerman was black for this reason: He never would have been charged with a crime.”

--SNIP--

George Zimmerman has sued NBC Universal for defamation. The company strongly denies the allegation.

I hate to break the news to the racist hothouse wallflower Cupcakes at the NAACP, but individuals are allowed to profile.  We can profile niggah thugs all we want.  But we see what happens when the government does NOT profile:  We get an illegal alien policy of 'the problem's too big to enforce' and TSA agents sexually assaulting little kids and grandmas while jihadis in full regalia sail through.  We see a government policy of harassing TEA Party groups while not being able to find two terrorists in Boston for whom they were provided their names. This whole kangaroo trial by racist mobs is not over.  Traygone's family will sue him (the criminal verdict might help him in that civil trial, although it didn't help the murderer OJ Simpson).  The race baiters and our Government will not allow this verdict to stand unanswered.  Zimmerman is guilty of something, and they know it.  They just can't figure out yet how the jury saw otherwise.

There is also the consensus comment I've heard that this verdict sends a signal that it is open season on 'young black men wearing hoodies'.  I wish.



oh, no, I am sure you do not mean that the way it looks. What you mean is that it is ALWAYS okay to defend yourself and others, NO MATTER if the attacker is a "young Black man wearing a hoodie" and I agree. It makes no difference who is beating me to death or beating my loved one to death. I have a right to defend myself or others.  I cannot seriously imagine laying there on the ground thinking, 'Well, if only this was a white guy, who was not wearing a hoodie, I would gladly let him beat me to death.' ummm, no. Race had nothing to do with this. The drive to survive did, and the rage that makes a man attack rather than talk.
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« Reply #188 on: July 14, 2013, 02:45:34 PM »
I found it curious that the jury had only 6 people, but then read Florida law says only capital cases require a jury of 12. All other criminal cases use a jury of 6.

So in GZ's case, it's "better to be tried by 6 than carried by 6".
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« Reply #189 on: July 14, 2013, 05:06:58 PM »
oh, no, I am sure you do not mean that the way it looks.

Don't assume.

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« Reply #190 on: July 14, 2013, 06:10:07 PM »
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..... White Americans have already begun to react against the imposition of unearned guilt upon us for the "troubles" of American blacks. The black-on-white crime statistics, the two Jesse Jackson clown shows, the Tawana Brawley affair and other Al Sharpton-emceed circuses, the Rodney King riots, the flash mobs of black youths that have assaulted white passers-by in several cities, the total collapse of black-ruled cities such as Detroit and Washington D.C., and the unending demands for "reparations" for the injustices done to persons long dead by persons long dead have -- pardon the phrase -- raised whites' consciousness of the great danger victimist, racialist blacks pose to our well being and the well being of the nation. There's a good reason Mark Butterworth's Tales of New America are so popular.

There's a threshold looming ever nearer: a line which, should we cross it, we could never un-cross: the line that precipitates a real, full-scale, flying-lead race war, after which America would know its own version of apartheid.

Blacks might tell themselves that it could never come to that, that American whites are already sufficiently suffused with racial guilt to be firmly inhibited against that degree of backlash. They're wrong -- typical victims of racialist wishful thinking -- and I shall tell you why.

There's no such thing as a group identity that engenders no other consequences. Groups coalesce for a reason -- most often, to oppose other groups -- and their first and most powerful impulse is to protect those of their members who are threatened by other groups.

Racial group identity is no exception to this pattern. Indeed, it's the prototype for such studies. He who thinks of himself as black first and foremost will reflexively rally to the defense of even the most violent, criminally inclined persons of his race. In a sense, that's what group identity is for; it's the most visible expression of the innate xenophobia that's built into Mankind's genes.

(A side note: There are persons who claim that Mankind's innate xenophobia is a bad thing, to be combated and ultimately erased. They're wrong. Evolution equipped us with that reaction for good and sufficient reasons. More, few of the xenophilia-promoters ever face the question, "If I don't know the stranger at my gate, why should I trust him without evidence?" Christ commanded us to love our neighbor, not to open our arms to every wandering vagabond who happens by pleading for a free meal.)

Thus, even decent, responsible, peaceable blacks will feel an inclination to rally to the defense of blacks accused of some crime. They will feel that impulse even when the evidence for the criminality of the accused is open and overwhelming. The O.J. Simpson verdict, delivered by a majority-black jury, was no accident.

Should a race war break out, many normally peaceable American blacks would not remain absolutely "on the sidelines." They would engage in the conflict at least to the extent of sheltering their more militant brethren. Indeed, just as nominally peaceable Muslims have cooperated in sheltering and sustaining their jihad-inclined co-religionists, many American blacks would do the same for fighters of their race. Thus, they would make themselves co-combatants...and therefore, targets...and thus would summon even more whites "onto the battlefield."

The level to which this must rise to convince American whites generally that blacks can no longer be tolerated in the larger society cannot be known until that level is reached. After that, no remediation would be possible. The outcome of the war would be foreordained by the numbers involved. Afterward, either there would be no blacks alive and free within our borders, or the nation would be racially partitioned even more firmly than apartheid South Africa. In either case, there would no longer be a United States of America as we've known it since the end of the Civil War.

At this time, for reasons that have become far too obvious to require enumeration here, blacks, at least in concentration, are dangerous to whites. It simply doesn't matter why. No more does it matter how fervently we wish it were otherwise. John Derbyshire's "talk" might have cost him the acceptance of the conservative Establishment, but that doesn't mean he was wrong.

Envy and hatred toward whites among American blacks have metastasized such that any racially-polarizing incident could be the falling stone that looses an avalanche. Race riots in the wake of a Zimmerman acquittal have a better chance than most of triggering a nationwide race war. The more intelligent black leaders ought to understand this -- and to convey it to their fellows, as forcefully as necessary. Millions of lives could well depend on it.
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« Reply #191 on: July 14, 2013, 07:00:44 PM »
  If I had any bad feelings about the death of this kid they were quickly replace with indifference for him as soon as the Sharpton/Jackson show went on the air. Screw them and him and his defenders.
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« Reply #192 on: July 14, 2013, 08:20:51 PM »
  If I had any bad feelings about the death of this kid they were quickly replace with indifference for him as soon as the Sharpton/Jackson show went on the air. Screw them and him and his defenders.
Agreed and furthermore, the inexplicable excuses they made for him. He was well on the way to a bad life of mistakes or great one depending upon whose perception it is. This punk would be alive today if the liberals and his parents stood up and said enough, he's on the wrong track but they didn't and now he's pushing up the daisies. Never did i read anywhere that this kid went to church translating into a wonderful prospect for another soul going to Lucifer. Chalk up another victory for Liberalism and the Great Society.
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« Reply #193 on: July 14, 2013, 09:10:30 PM »
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Re: The Trayvon Martin/Zimmerman Trial Thread
« Reply #194 on: July 14, 2013, 09:39:43 PM »
I guess we're having that race talk that Eric Witholder said we were afraid of having...

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« Reply #195 on: July 15, 2013, 12:34:37 AM »
That was a very interesting opinion piece, Pan.

Being a realist more than pretty much anything else and, after giving it and its linked articles a thorough and thoughtful reading, I am hard pressed to find much in it to disagree with.

I do not know if America will add "race war" to its reasons for a coming collapse but given the relentless efforts by the race industry to divide us along racial lines it is certainly within the realm of possibility.

I mean, the economic reason for collapse seems to be a foregone conclusion because of math. The whole "unsustainable" thing is what it is and there just isn't any getting around it. And that will, in my opinion, be a world wide collapse because of the international connectivity of globalism...once the dominos begin to fall there won't be any stopping them until we are out of dominos. But, getting back to our own little provincial interests...

I don't know if a "race war" is in our future, though I can see how it very easily could be as I noted above.

And you can throw in "religious war" as well given the same sort of direction that islam is heading toward.

What else is left to a collapse after you have factored in economic, race and religion? Sex, I suppose, what with the militant homosexual/feminist movement and the possible attitude of post-collapse survivors that they may as well clean house completely as long as they have started down that road.

I spent the day today taking my daughter a few hundred miles away to a summer camp. On the way back home, thoroughly tired of listening to my music selections that play randomly via my iPhone, mrs. trapeze requested demanded that she get her turn and I was then subjected to a couple of hours of blandness intermixed with a few good seventies-era pop tunes (mrs. trapeze and I do NOT share a similar taste in music) and some horrid trash. One of the more obnoxious things that mrs. trapeze has on her iPhone is the godawful eighties group hug, "We Are The World." Holy cow, I had forgotten how much I loath that abortion. It did, however, give me pause to think about it in the context of yesterday's TM/BZ verdict and the ensuing riots protests by the usual suspects in the usual places. I wondered just how many of the still living participants in "We Are The World" were on Twitter in the last 24 hours calling for GZ's life and waxing violent in general about "justice" for TM. I figured that there would be a few. Not exactly a profound thought or anything but it was the first thing that popped into my head as I endured listening to it.

Show of hands from anyone who vaguely cares: Could that song be cut today?

And if not, why?

I don't think that it could be cut today. I know, it wasn't about racial harmony (it was done to raise money for the perpetual, eternal and completely impossible to fix African famine and it was originally driven by super racist Harry Belafonte). I don't think that it could be done today because I believe that the race industry (aka the victim industry and the perpetually offended industry) has been increasingly active and very successful in the almost thirty years since "We Are The World" debuted. The race pimps and hustlers have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams except, perhaps, not in all the ways that they must have imagined. I have always been completely convinced that the Jacksons and Sharptons of the world could not care less about solving the problems of those they pretend to represent. I have always believed that they were always first and foremost in it for their own material gain. What I didn't see coming was how successful they would become in dividing the country more than it has been since the Civil War era.

We will never know what MLK would have done had he not been assassinated (but being a socialist there isn't much doubt really, is there?) but for the sake of this discussion I will pretend that his motives were always pure and he was a good guy who really did want everyone to be judged by the content of their character. I just don't see that MLK endorsing where we are and I just don't see that MLK approving of who brought us to this point and how.

No, I think that the race industry has really screwed the pooch as far as making this a better world for the people who they are supposed to be working for. The soft bigotry of low expectations, defining deviancy down, affirmative action, diversity and so on and so on have done their magic and worked their will to the detriment of those who they are supposed to be helping and yeah, ultimately it could lead to a "race war" that none of us ever wanted but may find difficult to escape.

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« Reply #196 on: July 15, 2013, 01:22:22 AM »
Trap, that always reminds me of this bit from Sam Kinison:



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« Reply #197 on: July 15, 2013, 07:24:44 AM »
Wow, just check out the headlines at Drudge - http://www.drudgereport.com/

Here are some of the notables linked:

“Every F**king Cop Is a F**king Target”

Nice...does that include all cops?  Black too?  These mindless punks...deep thinkers they are not.

Crackhead, crook, convicted shytbag Marion Barry - "Zimmerman will never be in peace"

Sounds like a threat to me.  And this bullsplatter - "He said the whole ordeal should once again inspire a push for gun control, arguing that there was no justification for Zimmerman, a Neighborhood Watch volunteer, to be carrying a concealed weapon."

Yeah, all racist bastards must think it is everybody elses responsibility to not defend themselves from feral black trash...they should be allowed to kick your ass, rob you, rape you...even kill you...protecting yourself is just not to be allowed, period.

Screw that noise!  People can and will protect themselves from trash...it shouldn't matter a damn the color of any of the participants, scum is scum and if scum picks on the wrong person and dies...that is called justice.

Another dumabss football player steps in it - "...Zimmerman doesn't last a year before the hood catches up to him."

Screw your retraction jackass, you said it, you meant it.

 ::mooning::

More asshats here

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And from the punk-ass racist-in-chief: Stop the gun violence

What an ass.  Stop punks from attacking innocent people?  How's that for a solution?  Target the criminals not the victims, asswipe!  And I mean real victims, not dead street punks who paid the ultimate price for their thuggery!

Another asshat - Dingy Harry - "This isn't over..."

 ::asskicking::

And this isn't a pastor...it's a punk - Hoodie Sunday

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Let's see how the Obama Regime gets around this one!

FBI records: agents found no evidence that Zimmerman was racist

Erica, NAACP and those race-naiting pimps known as the Justice Bro's can suck it!

ETA - Jim Hoft - If Obama had a mob of friends they might look like this…

Should been packing!

And this should be a no-brainer: Dershowitz: Zimmerman Special Prosecutor Angela Corey Should Be Disbarred

Disbarred, or Clintonized as it were.  Aye!

PS-Race wars coming?  Why not?  The Obama Regime and Dem's are encouraging it, the race-baiting industry (Sharpton/Jackson et al) is stoking the flames...as is the media when they ask ridiculous questions like this - Do you think that the American justice system is innately racist?

No you idiot, you and your fellow leftists are racists!   ::mooning::
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« Reply #199 on: July 15, 2013, 11:36:18 AM »
One for the "Who gives a shyt" file - NAACP Collects Nearly 450,000 Signatures Demanding DOJ Prosecute Zimmerman ... go ahead, collect 4,500,000 signatures of idiots who may or may not exist . . . doesn't mean squat!

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But no doubt Tryavon OBama will like it...and the MFM...and other jackasses...
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