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Re: What Do You Score On This Survey?
« Reply #80 on: July 03, 2013, 11:42:41 AM »
But heaven forbid that Seniors, who enjoyed a middle class life and opportunities for their entire working life should be deprived of what they expected to have in retirement.

There's a whole belief system now among seniors that when they retire they're entitled to live the good life.  They're finally rid of their responsibilities (family) and can do what they want. It's a prevalent attitude around where I live.

We discovered when researching our family history that several generations of one line stayed together (they may have had their own farms)in the same area.  When they moved farther west (PA to OH and so on) They ALL moved. As the family group got larger there were some families that stayed but there were usually several that moved on together.  In either case, move or not, they had a support system in place that made sense economically and provided safety.

Rugged, American individualism has turned into "doing whatever I want" since I have the government taking care of me.
Can't argue those points and in point of fact they were smart beyond everyone else. Older generation expect me to be courteous and offer help at my discretion because I value them as pieces of history, blocks of knowledge and wisdom if you will which is total opposite of the zombie poor.
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« Reply #81 on: July 03, 2013, 12:20:59 PM »

Can't argue those points and in point of fact they were smart beyond everyone else. Older generation expect me to be courteous and offer help at my discretion because I value them as pieces of history, blocks of knowledge and wisdom if you will which is total opposite of the zombie poor.

My Mother-in-Law grew up on farms, and My Father in Law died of Cancer early and basically left her poor.  We have been trying to convince her to come live with us because she has done most of the stuff we are trying to learn.  YesI would happily take her SSI check as part of the household income while it lasts, but it certainly wouldn't be a prime motivator in having her here. Bottom line, multiple generations living in the same house was normal up till  the early part of the 20th century, and it will be again.  And no you can't have breakables and quiet when you live with your grand kids-- get over it.  When I am too old to work, damn right I will be taking care of Grand kids - as the means of earning my keep while my kids go out and earn the money and work the farm  to provide me with food. There Ain't No Such Thing As a Free Lunch - even when its family.




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« Reply #82 on: July 03, 2013, 12:38:43 PM »
Socialism is an appeal to the desire to shirk individual responsibility. How can even its proponents argue that? It's the very definition of collectivism.

But that individual responsibility comes down to more than just preparing for your own retirement. It also means the individual responsibility to help care for the elders of your own family who are no longer able to do so for themselves. And this, I think, ties back into our culture's casting aside of religious morality. There's an awful lot of "oh I can't do that" attitude about things and situations that would have been no-brainers to people who lived before us. It was part of the biblical ethic that you honored your mother and father, which I certainly interpret to include caring for them when they become elderly. I know growing up I can't remember a time when my dad didn't have 2 or 3 side jobs in addition to his main job, and he did that to provide for us. So to me it seems obvious that my siblings and I should help my parents when they retire.

Where did this mindset originate that it's a responsibility that can be or should be offloaded onto the state?  And I think the money is only part of it. I think perhaps a bigger part of it comes down to not wanting to be burdened, because horror of horrors it might get in the way of leading a charmed life.
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Re: What Do You Score On This Survey?
« Reply #83 on: July 03, 2013, 01:15:20 PM »
My Mother-in-Law grew up on farms, and My Father in Law died of Cancer early and basically left her poor.  We have been trying to convince her to come live with us because she has done most of the stuff we are trying to learn.  YesI would happily take her SSI check as part of the household income while it lasts, but it certainly wouldn't be a prime motivator in having her here. Bottom line, multiple generations living in the same house was normal up till  the early part of the 20th century, and it will be again.  And no you can't have breakables and quiet when you live with your grand kids-- get over it.  When I am too old to work, damn right I will be taking care of Grand kids - as the means of earning my keep while my kids go out and earn the money and work the farm  to provide me with food. There Ain't No Such Thing As a Free Lunch - even when its family.

YES! that's the way I see it too

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Re: What Do You Score On This Survey?
« Reply #84 on: July 03, 2013, 01:16:21 PM »
I realized around 6-8 years ago my "retirement" will most likely be a step down from my lifestyle today. Now, I had set my sights high. Years ago, my 401K was humming, there were some good deals on land and frankly, a little niave to think everything would continue to move along well. We've seen what has happened to housing and land costs. The 401K slowed, until recently, as the fed dumps money in the market, giving everyone a false hope they are doing well. We face such an uncertain future, who knows what retirement will feel and look like. Some sort of collapse is inevitable.

I post this because I saved my entire life. I can't imagine those who did not. My funds will be a target and I know, whether thru rampant inflation or some other calamity, my savings, my "retirement" will lose value.

If this whole thing doesn't just collapse, I shutter to think what my kids generation will need to do to "retire".
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Re: What Do You Score On This Survey?
« Reply #85 on: July 03, 2013, 01:57:04 PM »
I realized around 6-8 years ago my "retirement" will most likely be a step down from my lifestyle today. Now, I had set my sights high. Years ago, my 401K was humming, there were some good deals on land and frankly, a little niave to think everything would continue to move along well. We've seen what has happened to housing and land costs. The 401K slowed, until recently, as the fed dumps money in the market, giving everyone a false hope they are doing well. We face such an uncertain future, who knows what retirement will feel and look like. Some sort of collapse is inevitable.

I post this because I saved my entire life. I can't imagine those who did not. My funds will be a target and I know, whether thru rampant inflation or some other calamity, my savings, my "retirement" will lose value.

If this whole thing doesn't just collapse, I shutter to think what my kids generation will need to do to "retire".

That's where having land is so good...something to have and use in a collapse or in retirement.   ::thumbsup::
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« Reply #86 on: July 03, 2013, 02:19:11 PM »
The idea of "retirement" is a relatively new concept, isn't it?  Before SS, who "retired" to travel or sit on their asses?  People worked until they either no longer could or died, but even those that could no longer hold a paying job would do, as noted elsewhere here, what they could around the house, taking care of the grandkids, gardening, cooking, etc.

My oldest uncle, now deceased, "retired" from the milk business (I believe it was involuntarily) and promptly found other paying jobs, sometimes only part-time, but he worked at one until shortly before his illness and death, and he was a pretty old man by that time.  His wife, my aunt, never worked a paying job, but there was no "retirement" for her either; she kept right on cooking, cleaning, shopping, and doing the laundry until her time came.

Gunsmith is not particularly enamored with his job, but the plan was for him to keep at it until such time as he could withdraw from his private retirement accounts and then work at something else, start his own business.  Well, that isn't going to happen, so we have a new plan, but it doesn't include "retiring" for either of us.
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« Reply #87 on: July 03, 2013, 04:09:21 PM »
The idea of "retirement" is a relatively new concept, isn't it?  Before SS, who "retired" to travel or sit on their asses?  People worked until they either no longer could or died, but even those that could no longer hold a paying job would do, as noted elsewhere here, what they could around the house, taking care of the grandkids, gardening, cooking, etc.

My oldest uncle, now deceased, "retired" from the milk business (I believe it was involuntarily) and promptly found other paying jobs, sometimes only part-time, but he worked at one until shortly before his illness and death, and he was a pretty old man by that time.  His wife, my aunt, never worked a paying job, but there was no "retirement" for her either; she kept right on cooking, cleaning, shopping, and doing the laundry until her time came.

Gunsmith is not particularly enamored with his job, but the plan was for him to keep at it until such time as he could withdraw from his private retirement accounts and then work at something else, start his own business.  Well, that isn't going to happen, so we have a new plan, but it doesn't include "retiring" for either of us.


"Retirement" to me would include some type of part time work. Not because I may need to but I will want to. I can only fish so many days.
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Re: What Do You Score On This Survey?
« Reply #88 on: July 03, 2013, 05:17:38 PM »
All I know is that once I'm done with my present job I have a career as a greeter at wally-world waiting for me...  :o

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« Reply #89 on: July 03, 2013, 05:44:26 PM »
I am a baby boomer and collectively IMHO we are the most selfish self-centered me first generation that America may have experienced. We turned away form God and instead bought into every liberal ideological nonsense in living and raising our kids. I apologize to all you youngsters who are really getting screwed having to pay for us with social security and medicare. We are going to crush the system when we all reach retirement age. I am ashamed of how we have helped destroy the American Ideal.

Not all of us however are like this. My wife and I will have a nice pension from both our jobs upon retirement along with a pension from our respective unions. I have a nice 401k that was offered at work many years ago that I  continually put money into that has done well. My wifey and I too when we were first married went to a financial planner and still do. I feel we have invested wisely with him. I never liked the idea of SS even when I was a kid making $1.75/hour and got mad that they would take money out of my check and thought I know much better how to invest my money than the government. I plan to take the money upon retirement from SS and use it to do the Lords work. I also plan to help my kids and their future families any way I can so they are government independent as much as possible.

However I hope I will never retire. It would not be good for me and I firmly believe it is a blessing to work hard as long as the body and mind lasts.

With that said I know a lot has been said of our fathers and mothers of the so called greatest generation and the sacrifice and hard work they did to help defeat Nazism and keep our country safe cannot be over stated. But you cannot talk to many of them without getting into arguments and getting your a$$ chewed. Many I have talked to love FDR, they feel they are owed and every one else be damned as long as they get what they deserve.

I'll give a quick example. I get along very well with my father in law, I am like his son. However you cannot under any circumstances talk to him about SS, Medicare, healthcare, or any other care that the government offers. He feels the country owes him and even though it is IMHO SINFUL that the younger generation is being ravished in having to pay for all this, he and many others of his generation don't seem to care and want what they think is theirs. This comes from a man who ran an immensely successful business and sold it for a pretty penny when he retired. Its not only my father in law, same holds true for most of my friends fathers. All were successful men who upon retirement now want the government care they were "promised" even though they have above and beyond the means to live comfortably without the governments help.

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Re: What Do You Score On This Survey?
« Reply #90 on: July 03, 2013, 06:33:17 PM »
(I am posting this here because I thought it flows in the thread of thought. I fully recognize that the authorities here might choose to move it and can do so without offense.)

SINS OF THE LAND

Garland M. Robinson
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”
Our nation is in great moral decay and getting worse day by day. Political correctness has desensitized and numbed the conscience of multiplied millions. Immorality is no longer considered immoral, it’s simply passed off as being a “social issue.” In the minds of those who subscribe to this idea, this makes it neither right nor wrong and therefore cannot be condemned. Especially is this so with the depraved sins of sodomy (homosexuality, lesbianism and so-called same sex marriage) and abortion (the horrifying slaughter of innocent babies). As heinous and despicable as these two atrocities are, they have become the norm and those who oppose them are often passed off as hate-mongers.
The day is drawing closer, and already exists in some places, that opposing sodomy is a hate-crime and those who do so are considered dangerous and a threat to society. The Department of Homeland Security sent out a bulletin (explained as an assessment) in 2009 to law enforcement agencies across the U.S. saying they should be on alert for right-wing extremist organizations. Such groups should be monitored more closely. They say that individuals in such groups are vulnerable to being recruited as terrorists. What groups do they consider to be right-wing extremists? In today’s climate of perversion, we should not be surprised that they would say it is those who oppose homosexuality and same sex marriage. Those who oppose abortion and contend for the unborn’s “right to life.” Those who believe the United States’ boarders should be secured (they call it immigration). Those who believe in gun rights protected by the 2nd Amendment. Those who are returning veterans of the military (Iraq & Afghanistan particularly, seeing they know how to use weapons and might teach others how to use them). Those who are concerned about the religion of Islam. Those who are conservative, traditional, and still believe in the Constitution. Basically, if you contend for God, home and family; if you believe there is an absolute standard of right and wrong, righteousness and evil, sin and error, then you are considered a right-wing extremist or at least closely connected with them. Members of these groups are all on the hit-list to be watched more closely. Do you feel someone breathing down your neck?
The freedom of speech, protected by the 1st Amendment, is under attack. Current policies and practices allow and protect those who push their agenda of same sex marriage and gay and lesbian “rights“, but seeks to stop the mouths of those who contest and challenge it. To oppose such would make you a right-wing extremist. To speak out against this perversion of God and family is considered a “hate-crime.” Why is it that some can say anything they want to promote immoral behavior (their right to do so being protected under the Constitution), but others cannot say anything to oppose such behavior? Isn’t our right to oppose such practices protected as well? While freedom of speech does not protect someone yelling “fire” in a crowded auditorium, it does protect one’s right to oppose and expose immorality and wickedness.
God said through Isaiah, “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!” (Isa. 5:20). Does this not sound like the times in which we now live? Though Isaiah is speaking of events in his own time, the principle applies in our generation of corrupt men and women who have abandoned all sense of right and wrong according to God’s standard (cf. Rom. 15:4). Notice these passages that tell us what God thinks about it: “He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both [are] abomination to the LORD” (Prov. 17:15). “He that saith unto the wicked, Thou [art] righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him: But to them that rebuke [him] shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them” (Prov. 24:24-25).
Who would have ever believed that in such a short period of our life-time, perversions of humanity would gain acceptance with the masses? Will the morally upright allow the morally degenerate to have their way? NO, they cannot — WE must not. The creator of heaven and earth tells us to contend for purity and righteousness. If we don’t stand up and proclaim righteousness throughout the land, no one else is going to. However, the war in which we are engaged is a war of “words.” It is not a war of physical violence. It is not one of anarchy and mayhem (“the wilful and unlawful crippling or mutilation of another person, violent and needless disturbance“).
We are in a battle for the hearts and souls of men. We are at war with wickedness wherever it may appear. However, we are not to take to the streets, and as thugs, cause havoc and anarchy. There is no law, either man-made or God-made, that protects those who would commit criminal acts of inflicting bodily harm. “(For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ” (2 Cor. 10:4-5).
The righteous of the earth are at war! As soldiers of the cross, we are engaged in a fierce battle. We are well equipped in the Lord’s army to do the job we’ve been given to do. Ephesians 6:10-17 words it this way. “Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.”
Notice that in one hand we hold the sword of the Spirit, the powerful Word of God. And, in the other hand we hold the shield of faith “wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked” (cf. Eph. 6:16-17; cf. Neh. 4:17). With these two, we hold the most powerful weapons the world has ever known.
Jails and prisons remove the depraved and debased from society so they can no longer work their evil deeds upon the public, but such institutions cannot change a person’s mind. The powerful Word of God, on the other hand, reaches the very seat of mankind’s problem. It affects the very mind and thinking of individuals. When one changes their thinking (their mind), their actions automatically change. Proverbs 23:7 tells us that a man is what he thinks in his heart. He will do as his heart dictates. If his heart is evil, he will do evil. If his heart is good, he will do good.
The word of God and teaching it in every place is the tool we use to win the hearts of the way-ward. It is the power of God unto salvation (Rom. 1:16; 1 Cor. 1:17-21; Eph. 6:11-17). The unadulterated word of God must be preached from the house-tops and no government on earth can prevent it’s spread. It works good in the lives of people, not evil. It brings peace and tranquility. It offers no threat of bodily harm to anyone. But instead, it brings an inner peace that is beyond understanding (cf. Phil. 4:7). Will you let the eternal Word of God change your life for good?

 
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« Reply #91 on: July 03, 2013, 06:49:31 PM »
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« Reply #92 on: July 03, 2013, 07:25:01 PM »
(I am posting this here because I thought it flows in the thread of thought. I fully recognize that the authorities here might choose to move it and can do so without offense.)

SINS OF THE LAND

Garland M. Robinson
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”
Our nation is in great moral decay and getting worse day by day. Political correctness has desensitized and numbed the conscience of multiplied millions. Immorality is no longer considered immoral, it’s simply passed off as being a “social issue.” In the minds of those who subscribe to this idea, this makes it neither right nor wrong and therefore cannot be condemned. Especially is this so with the depraved sins of sodomy (homosexuality, lesbianism and so-called same sex marriage) and abortion (the horrifying slaughter of innocent babies). As heinous and despicable as these two atrocities are, they have become the norm and those who oppose them are often passed off as hate-mongers.
The day is drawing closer, and already exists in some places, that opposing sodomy is a hate-crime and those who do so are considered dangerous and a threat to society. The Department of Homeland Security sent out a bulletin (explained as an assessment) in 2009 to law enforcement agencies across the U.S. saying they should be on alert for right-wing extremist organizations. Such groups should be monitored more closely. They say that individuals in such groups are vulnerable to being recruited as terrorists. What groups do they consider to be right-wing extremists? In today’s climate of perversion, we should not be surprised that they would say it is those who oppose homosexuality and same sex marriage. Those who oppose abortion and contend for the unborn’s “right to life.” Those who believe the United States’ boarders should be secured (they call it immigration). Those who believe in gun rights protected by the 2nd Amendment. Those who are returning veterans of the military (Iraq & Afghanistan particularly, seeing they know how to use weapons and might teach others how to use them). Those who are concerned about the religion of Islam. Those who are conservative, traditional, and still believe in the Constitution. Basically, if you contend for God, home and family; if you believe there is an absolute standard of right and wrong, righteousness and evil, sin and error, then you are considered a right-wing extremist or at least closely connected with them. Members of these groups are all on the hit-list to be watched more closely. Do you feel someone breathing down your neck?
The freedom of speech, protected by the 1st Amendment, is under attack. Current policies and practices allow and protect those who push their agenda of same sex marriage and gay and lesbian “rights“, but seeks to stop the mouths of those who contest and challenge it. To oppose such would make you a right-wing extremist. To speak out against this perversion of God and family is considered a “hate-crime.” Why is it that some can say anything they want to promote immoral behavior (their right to do so being protected under the Constitution), but others cannot say anything to oppose such behavior? Isn’t our right to oppose such practices protected as well? While freedom of speech does not protect someone yelling “fire” in a crowded auditorium, it does protect one’s right to oppose and expose immorality and wickedness.
God said through Isaiah, “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!” (Isa. 5:20). Does this not sound like the times in which we now live? Though Isaiah is speaking of events in his own time, the principle applies in our generation of corrupt men and women who have abandoned all sense of right and wrong according to God’s standard (cf. Rom. 15:4). Notice these passages that tell us what God thinks about it: “He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both [are] abomination to the LORD” (Prov. 17:15). “He that saith unto the wicked, Thou [art] righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him: But to them that rebuke [him] shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them” (Prov. 24:24-25).
Who would have ever believed that in such a short period of our life-time, perversions of humanity would gain acceptance with the masses? Will the morally upright allow the morally degenerate to have their way? NO, they cannot — WE must not. The creator of heaven and earth tells us to contend for purity and righteousness. If we don’t stand up and proclaim righteousness throughout the land, no one else is going to. However, the war in which we are engaged is a war of “words.” It is not a war of physical violence. It is not one of anarchy and mayhem (“the wilful and unlawful crippling or mutilation of another person, violent and needless disturbance“).
We are in a battle for the hearts and souls of men. We are at war with wickedness wherever it may appear. However, we are not to take to the streets, and as thugs, cause havoc and anarchy. There is no law, either man-made or God-made, that protects those who would commit criminal acts of inflicting bodily harm. “(For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ” (2 Cor. 10:4-5).
The righteous of the earth are at war! As soldiers of the cross, we are engaged in a fierce battle. We are well equipped in the Lord’s army to do the job we’ve been given to do. Ephesians 6:10-17 words it this way. “Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.”
Notice that in one hand we hold the sword of the Spirit, the powerful Word of God. And, in the other hand we hold the shield of faith “wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked” (cf. Eph. 6:16-17; cf. Neh. 4:17). With these two, we hold the most powerful weapons the world has ever known.
Jails and prisons remove the depraved and debased from society so they can no longer work their evil deeds upon the public, but such institutions cannot change a person’s mind. The powerful Word of God, on the other hand, reaches the very seat of mankind’s problem. It affects the very mind and thinking of individuals. When one changes their thinking (their mind), their actions automatically change. Proverbs 23:7 tells us that a man is what he thinks in his heart. He will do as his heart dictates. If his heart is evil, he will do evil. If his heart is good, he will do good.
The word of God and teaching it in every place is the tool we use to win the hearts of the way-ward. It is the power of God unto salvation (Rom. 1:16; 1 Cor. 1:17-21; Eph. 6:11-17). The unadulterated word of God must be preached from the house-tops and no government on earth can prevent it’s spread. It works good in the lives of people, not evil. It brings peace and tranquility. It offers no threat of bodily harm to anyone. But instead, it brings an inner peace that is beyond understanding (cf. Phil. 4:7). Will you let the eternal Word of God change your life for good?

 

Ever since obama well even before that I would say since 9/11. I have become a bit discouraged and defeated. I have seen my once great county and it values rapidly being destroyed. I went through a faith crisis in a way. Yes I  believed in the Lord Jesus but I was living as a luke warm believer. Lately (I feel by the prompting of the Holy Spirit) I have come to realize the only way to get our country back is to fall on my knees and go to Jesus in repentance and prayer and ask what can I do. I can no longer sit and do nothing it is time I take up my cross and get going.

He then spoke to me through a book by my mentor Dr. Michael Brown entitled the Real Kosher Jesus. It helped to refocus and direct me to what I need to do.  

When my wonderful mother died 10 years ago I found out I may be from Jewish linage. I immersed myself in Messianic Judaism but it wasn't until I was reading Dr. Brown's book it hit me.  God has given the Jewish people the tremendous honor and responsibility to be chosen. Chosen for what? To be a blessing and a light to all the nations of the world. To declare God praises and His word among the peoples so as to make God known to the nations. The sacred calling of the Jewish people then is to proclaim what God has said and done and to be a Missionary to the world................

Tell of His glory among the nations,
His wonderful deeds among all the peoples. Psalm 96:3


IMHO we cannot survive as a country any longer with out turning back to our Creator and Redeemer the Lord Jesus Christ, Yeshua Ha-Mashiach.

One of the ultimate goals now for me and please pray for me to be committed and have a undying passion like never before.......... to tell others the Gospel......The Good News......... and from it the hope, purpose, fulfillment and meaning of life there is in having faith in the Lord Jesus. This is why I have Hope.
"Be strong and courageous. Do not be terrified; do not be discouraged, for the LORD your GOD will be with you wherever you go." Joshua 1:9

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Re: What Do You Score On This Survey?
« Reply #93 on: July 03, 2013, 07:50:27 PM »
And the Congregation said, "Amen!"

(I am posting this here because I thought it flows in the thread of thought. I fully recognize that the authorities here might choose to move it and can do so without offense.)

SINS OF THE LAND

Garland M. Robinson
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”
Our nation is in great moral decay and getting worse day by day. Political correctness has desensitized and numbed the conscience of multiplied millions. Immorality is no longer considered immoral, it’s simply passed off as being a “social issue.” In the minds of those who subscribe to this idea, this makes it neither right nor wrong and therefore cannot be condemned. Especially is this so with the depraved sins of sodomy (homosexuality, lesbianism and so-called same sex marriage) and abortion (the horrifying slaughter of innocent babies). As heinous and despicable as these two atrocities are, they have become the norm and those who oppose them are often passed off as hate-mongers.
The day is drawing closer, and already exists in some places, that opposing sodomy is a hate-crime and those who do so are considered dangerous and a threat to society. The Department of Homeland Security sent out a bulletin (explained as an assessment) in 2009 to law enforcement agencies across the U.S. saying they should be on alert for right-wing extremist organizations. Such groups should be monitored more closely. They say that individuals in such groups are vulnerable to being recruited as terrorists. What groups do they consider to be right-wing extremists? In today’s climate of perversion, we should not be surprised that they would say it is those who oppose homosexuality and same sex marriage. Those who oppose abortion and contend for the unborn’s “right to life.” Those who believe the United States’ boarders should be secured (they call it immigration). Those who believe in gun rights protected by the 2nd Amendment. Those who are returning veterans of the military (Iraq & Afghanistan particularly, seeing they know how to use weapons and might teach others how to use them). Those who are concerned about the religion of Islam. Those who are conservative, traditional, and still believe in the Constitution. Basically, if you contend for God, home and family; if you believe there is an absolute standard of right and wrong, righteousness and evil, sin and error, then you are considered a right-wing extremist or at least closely connected with them. Members of these groups are all on the hit-list to be watched more closely. Do you feel someone breathing down your neck?
The freedom of speech, protected by the 1st Amendment, is under attack. Current policies and practices allow and protect those who push their agenda of same sex marriage and gay and lesbian “rights“, but seeks to stop the mouths of those who contest and challenge it. To oppose such would make you a right-wing extremist. To speak out against this perversion of God and family is considered a “hate-crime.” Why is it that some can say anything they want to promote immoral behavior (their right to do so being protected under the Constitution), but others cannot say anything to oppose such behavior? Isn’t our right to oppose such practices protected as well? While freedom of speech does not protect someone yelling “fire” in a crowded auditorium, it does protect one’s right to oppose and expose immorality and wickedness.
God said through Isaiah, “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!” (Isa. 5:20). Does this not sound like the times in which we now live? Though Isaiah is speaking of events in his own time, the principle applies in our generation of corrupt men and women who have abandoned all sense of right and wrong according to God’s standard (cf. Rom. 15:4). Notice these passages that tell us what God thinks about it: “He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both [are] abomination to the LORD” (Prov. 17:15). “He that saith unto the wicked, Thou [art] righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him: But to them that rebuke [him] shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them” (Prov. 24:24-25).
Who would have ever believed that in such a short period of our life-time, perversions of humanity would gain acceptance with the masses? Will the morally upright allow the morally degenerate to have their way? NO, they cannot — WE must not. The creator of heaven and earth tells us to contend for purity and righteousness. If we don’t stand up and proclaim righteousness throughout the land, no one else is going to. However, the war in which we are engaged is a war of “words.” It is not a war of physical violence. It is not one of anarchy and mayhem (“the wilful and unlawful crippling or mutilation of another person, violent and needless disturbance“).
We are in a battle for the hearts and souls of men. We are at war with wickedness wherever it may appear. However, we are not to take to the streets, and as thugs, cause havoc and anarchy. There is no law, either man-made or God-made, that protects those who would commit criminal acts of inflicting bodily harm. “(For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ” (2 Cor. 10:4-5).
The righteous of the earth are at war! As soldiers of the cross, we are engaged in a fierce battle. We are well equipped in the Lord’s army to do the job we’ve been given to do. Ephesians 6:10-17 words it this way. “Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.”
Notice that in one hand we hold the sword of the Spirit, the powerful Word of God. And, in the other hand we hold the shield of faith “wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked” (cf. Eph. 6:16-17; cf. Neh. 4:17). With these two, we hold the most powerful weapons the world has ever known.
Jails and prisons remove the depraved and debased from society so they can no longer work their evil deeds upon the public, but such institutions cannot change a person’s mind. The powerful Word of God, on the other hand, reaches the very seat of mankind’s problem. It affects the very mind and thinking of individuals. When one changes their thinking (their mind), their actions automatically change. Proverbs 23:7 tells us that a man is what he thinks in his heart. He will do as his heart dictates. If his heart is evil, he will do evil. If his heart is good, he will do good.
The word of God and teaching it in every place is the tool we use to win the hearts of the way-ward. It is the power of God unto salvation (Rom. 1:16; 1 Cor. 1:17-21; Eph. 6:11-17). The unadulterated word of God must be preached from the house-tops and no government on earth can prevent it’s spread. It works good in the lives of people, not evil. It brings peace and tranquility. It offers no threat of bodily harm to anyone. But instead, it brings an inner peace that is beyond understanding (cf. Phil. 4:7). Will you let the eternal Word of God change your life for good?

 

Ever since obama well even before that I would say since 9/11. I have become a bit discouraged and defeated. I have seen my once great county and it values rapidly being destroyed. I went through a faith crisis in a way. Yes I  believed in the Lord Jesus but I was living as a luke warm believer. Lately (I feel by the prompting of the Holy Spirit) I have come to realize the only way to get our country back is to fall on my knees and go to Jesus in repentance and prayer and ask what can I do. I can no longer sit and do nothing it is time I take up my cross and get going.

He then spoke to me through a book by my mentor Dr. Michael Brown entitled the Real Kosher Jesus. It helped to refocus and direct me to what I need to do.  

When my wonderful mother died 10 years ago I found out I may be from Jewish linage. I immersed myself in Messianic Judaism but it wasn't until I was reading Dr. Brown's book it hit me.  God has given the Jewish people the tremendous honor and responsibility to be chosen. Chosen for what? To be a blessing and a light to all the nations of the world. To declare God praises and His word among the peoples so as to make God known to the nations. The sacred calling of the Jewish people then is to proclaim what God has said and done and to be a Missionary to the world................

Tell of His glory among the nations,
His wonderful deeds among all the peoples. Psalm 96:3


IMHO we cannot survive as a country any longer with out turning back to our Creator and Redeemer the Lord Jesus Christ, Yeshua Ha-Mashiach.

One of the ultimate goals now for me and please pray for me to be committed and have a undying passion like never before.......... to tell others the Gospel......The Good News......... and from it the hope, purpose, fulfillment and meaning of life there is in having faith in the Lord Jesus. This is why I have Hope.
“My mission today is to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the Bible teaches, and part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together.

“However, I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other.”
Phil Robertson an elder in the church of Christ

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Re: What Do You Score On This Survey?
« Reply #94 on: July 03, 2013, 08:49:03 PM »
87 who the hell knew and should I be worried?
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« Reply #95 on: July 03, 2013, 09:12:44 PM »
I did, and no.
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« Reply #96 on: July 03, 2013, 11:08:02 PM »
i came in at 87 too.
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Re: What Do You Score On This Survey?
« Reply #97 on: July 03, 2013, 11:23:58 PM »
It occurs to me to wonder what Ron Paul scores on this test.
"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

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Re: What Do You Score On This Survey?
« Reply #98 on: July 04, 2013, 08:43:03 AM »
It occurs to me to wonder what Ron Paul scores on this test.
Why? Was there a question as to whether or not we should leave Israel to fend for itself amongst the wolves of the world?
Was there a question regarding 911 and the Jews being warned to stay home that day etc....You get my drift.

Aside from RP and regarding legalization of drugs. They always ask should it be legal to which is yes but I also believe that the moral failings, lack of Bible learning which was suppose to teach you if thou should or shouldn't is absent today. A century ago, it wasn't a big thing because our ancestors were learned men and women so they knew the answer and thus refrained from them even though they were legal at that time. Only the weakest reached for them looking to escape from the misery of their choices in life.
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Re: What Do You Score On This Survey?
« Reply #99 on: July 04, 2013, 09:22:01 AM »
I did, and no.

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