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Re: Lessons from the 2012 election
« Reply #100 on: November 11, 2012, 11:02:43 PM »
We all like to think of Alaska as the last redoubt of the rugged individualist, and maybe it is for some special Grizzly Adams types, but as a state it is actually a huge recipient of Federal largesse.  That's the whole reason the contemptible Lisa Murkowski won the Senate race as a write-in after Joe Miller had beaten her fair and square. She ran an ad blitz telling people Joe Miller, as a fiscal conservative, would shut off the faucet of money from DC.
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Re: Lessons from the 2012 election
« Reply #101 on: November 12, 2012, 01:07:04 AM »
Ann on the election:

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YOU READY TO GET SERIOUS NOW? YOU READY TO LISTEN?
POSTED BY ANN BARNHARDT - NOVEMBER 7, AD 2012 6:23 PM MST
Now do you understand why I had precious little to say about the "election"? The results of this election were determined in 2008, including the faux-opposition candidate. You people who have spent the last several months breathlessly agonizing over this, analyzing fake polls and deluding yourselves into believing that this was somehow a legitimate operation are just sad. You're like the people in Iraq who supported the opposition candidate to Saddam Hussein for all of those years. Yes, Saddam Hussein held "elections". Regularly. That is what happened here yesterday. We had a Saddam Hussein "election".
This can all be summed up in one simple sentence that I have been screaming from the rooftops ever since November of 2008:

These people are NEVER going to walk away.

The Republic was overthrown in a neo-Stalinist putsch four years ago. Stalinists don't walk away. Ever. Stalinists don't hold elections - they put on shows to delude the masses, which they consider to be vermin, into believing that they still have some say and some degree of freedom. And when even that gets tiresome for them, they start slaughtering people. By the tens of millions.

Note that all of the so-called pundits on the so-called "right" are avoiding the issue of massive voter fraud. They're all just spewing the same nonsense as ever:

The fight has just begun! This is when the real hard work begins! Yay! We'll show 'em in 2016! Yay!

Meanwhile, here in the land of reality, my inbox is filling with emails from people who are just now realizing that they are probably going to die an unnatural death, and probably within the next several years.

But it's cool, because Ace put up a recipe thread today. Spit on one's hands and hoist the black flag, indeed!

So, what to do now? I have several action items for you. These are all re-hash, but I'll put them together and re-post them because maybe, just maybe, you people are actually ready to listen and do something.

1. TAX STRIKE

If you are self-employed, stop paying quarterlies and DO NOT FILE next April. Boehner rolled over this morning and announced that the "Republicans" are gung-ho to raise taxes. They can only raise taxes on you if you pay taxes. Don't pay. DO NOT FILE.

IF YOU ARE NOT SELF-EMPLOYED and your employer withholds your taxes, all you have to do is increase THE NUMBER OF EXEMPTIONS YOU CLAIM. Exemptions are NOT just wife-and-kids. People who make large charitable donations kick up their exemptions, as do people with big mortgages. In theory, there is no maximum to the number of exemptions you can claim, but 9 is considered to be the "normal" maximum. Go to your human resources / payroll department tomorrow and tell them you want to increase your exemptions and thus decrease your withholding as much as possible. Then, next April, DO NOT FILE.

There is exactly ONE non-violent remedy left to you, and that is a tax strike. If you do not do this, you are guaranteeing, and I mean 1000% guaranteeing, that there will be a massive hot war and genocide in the United States within the next decade. Go find a good teenaged boy. Look into his eyes, and then understand that if we do not starve the Putsch Regime in Washington, that boy will almost certainly die in the war.

2. MEDIA STRIKE

If you do not now understand that the media is enemy number one of you, your family, this culture and of God; if you do not understand that the media is SATANIC, then you are either terminally stupid or you are hopelessly addicted to the satanic filth, agitporn and lies yourself. Pick up the phone, call the cable or satellite company and TURN THE sh*t OFF NOW.

Oh, and by the way, I found out how much you are paying for each cable channel. It is roughly $0.12 per month per channel. I saw this figure in a recent story about Algore's Stalinist propaganda channel, Current TV, which they are now trying to sell. Current TV goes into 60 million homes and has annual revenues from their cable and satellite royalties of $86 million. That is $0.12 per subscriber per month. So, you are offering that "pinch of incense" of $0.12 per month (at minimum) for every channel that is included in your cable or satellite package, including the sodomite channel, including MTV, including MSNBC, whether you watch it or not, and even if you block it on your cable box. Your money is still going to these outfits every month, and in doing so you proclaim that "caesar is lord". St. Polycarp, pray for us.

3. FINANCIAL MARKET STRIKE

Get out, get out, get out. Close every brokerage account without exception. When my economic presentation is posted within the next few days, you will clearly see why. Pull your bank accounts down to the bare minimum. Buy gold and silver. Keep some Federal Reserve Notes on hand. Pay off debt and hold clear title to as much as you possibly can. Start liquidating your stuff now if, like me, you are going to eventually lose your home, which should actually be in play for almost everyone except the very wealthy who don't need to generate any income (and thus pay no taxes) to survive and and simply live off of their existing wealth. Anyone who generates income and declares a tax strike should start preparing now to have their home and the contents of their home seized. Thus, get rid of everything now so that there is nothing for them to seize.

4. CANCEL YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE

Find cash-only doctors (general practitioners) operating in your area and establish a relationship with them now. Once you find a cash-only G.P., get a list of cash-only surgeons and surgery centers.

If you live anywhere near Oklahoma City, there is already an outstanding cash-only surgery center in your back yard. CLICK HERE TO BEHOLD THE FUTURE OF MEDICINE.

5. START THINKING AGGRESSIVELY AND OFFENSIVELY

I'll just give you an example so you know what I mean. I found out that when you don't file with the IRS, what they do is "subpoena" your bank statements from your bank, and then they simply go in and add up all of the credits in your bank account and IGNORE ALL OF THE DEBITS. No expenses are recognized whatsoever. Every dollar "in" is considered to be pure, fully-taxable income.

Sounds horrible, right? Especially if you are a business owner like me, right?

So, how do I make this work for me? Simple. I'm going to get some cash deposited into the bank in a quantity that I am prepared to lose, and then I am going to login to my online banking interface and sit here all blessed day and transfer that quantity of money between my bank accounts. I'm hoping to "generate" "income" in the form of credit entries on my bank statements into the eight figures.

In theory, if I had enough of a cash base, I could literally offset the entire national debt by "generating income" for the IRS in this way. But, I'll just target an eight-figure "taxable" income for 2012. Heh. See what I'm getting at here? You don't cower. You RUN AT THEM.

If those rat bastards want to play, I'm their huckleberry.

Say when.


she also has her new  multipart  part economic preso up.. apparenlty her last word on the subject

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Re: Lessons from the 2012 election
« Reply #102 on: November 12, 2012, 07:11:50 AM »
I think AP posted the video link here, haven't seen it yet though (dang work filters!) -

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,7154.0.html

Some ballsy stuff she propmotes, but if millions did it the system would be overwhelmed.
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Re: Lessons from the 2012 election
« Reply #103 on: November 12, 2012, 01:50:39 PM »
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Start liquidating your stuff now if, like me, you are going to eventually lose your home, which should actually be in play for almost everyone except the very wealthy who don't need to generate any income (and thus pay no taxes) to survive and and simply live off of their existing wealth. Anyone who generates income and declares a tax strike should start preparing now to have their home and the contents of their home seized. Thus, get rid of everything now so that there is nothing for them to seize.

That sounds fine and dandy, but where is one supposed to hoard their gold and silver with no where to live? Going Galt seems kind of tough with no where to run.
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Re: Lessons from the 2012 election
« Reply #104 on: November 12, 2012, 02:20:36 PM »
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Start liquidating your stuff now if, like me, you are going to eventually lose your home, which should actually be in play for almost everyone except the very wealthy who don't need to generate any income (and thus pay no taxes) to survive and and simply live off of their existing wealth. Anyone who generates income and declares a tax strike should start preparing now to have their home and the contents of their home seized. Thus, get rid of everything now so that there is nothing for them to seize.

That sounds fine and dandy, but where is one supposed to hoard their gold and silver with no where to live? Going Galt seems kind of tough with no where to run.

Hmmm...

Cast it into bullets and donate it to the statists coming to rob you?  Bury it off in the woods ala Jesse James and retreive it later if you survive?  We appear to be missing the option, but I suspect it is a cache effort of some sort...
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Re: Lessons from the 2012 election
« Reply #105 on: November 12, 2012, 02:50:40 PM »
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Start liquidating your stuff now if, like me, you are going to eventually lose your home, which should actually be in play for almost everyone except the very wealthy who don't need to generate any income (and thus pay no taxes) to survive and and simply live off of their existing wealth. Anyone who generates income and declares a tax strike should start preparing now to have their home and the contents of their home seized. Thus, get rid of everything now so that there is nothing for them to seize.

That sounds fine and dandy, but where is one supposed to hoard their gold and silver with no where to live? Going Galt seems kind of tough with no where to run.


I like Ann, but most people will not be willing to sell off ( I'm not) and wait for uncle Sam to come after you. Plus, I own my home, although I do not qualify as "rich" or be able to live sans income. I could sell and get by a few years, but I just as soon defend my property than sell, bury my assets and then wait for the enevitable.
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Re: Lessons from the 2012 election
« Reply #106 on: November 12, 2012, 02:56:50 PM »
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Start liquidating your stuff now if, like me, you are going to eventually lose your home, which should actually be in play for almost everyone except the very wealthy who don't need to generate any income (and thus pay no taxes) to survive and and simply live off of their existing wealth. Anyone who generates income and declares a tax strike should start preparing now to have their home and the contents of their home seized. Thus, get rid of everything now so that there is nothing for them to seize.

That sounds fine and dandy, but where is one supposed to hoard their gold and silver with no where to live? Going Galt seems kind of tough with no where to run.

Ann sees something noble in allowing them to make her penniless.  However, you can bury your gold pretty much anywhere  in a Nat forrest and no one will find it..

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Re: Lessons from the 2012 election
« Reply #107 on: November 12, 2012, 03:44:31 PM »
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Start liquidating your stuff now if, like me, you are going to eventually lose your home, which should actually be in play for almost everyone except the very wealthy who don't need to generate any income (and thus pay no taxes) to survive and and simply live off of their existing wealth. Anyone who generates income and declares a tax strike should start preparing now to have their home and the contents of their home seized. Thus, get rid of everything now so that there is nothing for them to seize.

That sounds fine and dandy, but where is one supposed to hoard their gold and silver with no where to live? Going Galt seems kind of tough with no where to run.

Ann sees something noble in allowing them to make her penniless.  However, you can bury your gold pretty much anywhere  in a Nat forrest and no one will find it..


Having buried gold is not exactly penniless.  I *think* Ann sees some value in allowing them to think they made her penniless.
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Re: Lessons from the 2012 election
« Reply #108 on: November 12, 2012, 05:22:43 PM »
I like Ann, but most people will not be willing to sell off ( I'm not) and wait for uncle Sam to come after you. Plus, I own my home, although I do not qualify as "rich" or be able to live sans income. I could sell and get by a few years, but I just as soon defend my property than sell, bury my assets and then wait for the enevitable.

Yeah, I won't sell off either, and I would rather fight to defend the defensible.  Ann I think is running early on this.. The Tax protest will happen natrually as they try to take more and more. Less and less will be made. Its that simple..

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Re: Lessons from the 2012 election
« Reply #109 on: November 12, 2012, 05:31:52 PM »
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Start liquidating your stuff now if, like me, you are going to eventually lose your home, which should actually be in play for almost everyone except the very wealthy who don't need to generate any income (and thus pay no taxes) to survive and and simply live off of their existing wealth. Anyone who generates income and declares a tax strike should start preparing now to have their home and the contents of their home seized. Thus, get rid of everything now so that there is nothing for them to seize.

That sounds fine and dandy, but where is one supposed to hoard their gold and silver with no where to live? Going Galt seems kind of tough with no where to run.

Ann sees something noble in allowing them to make her penniless.  However, you can bury your gold pretty much anywhere  in a Nat forrest and no one will find it..


Until they break out the drones and start tagging along.

I'm with the majority. My house is paid for, I'm not going anywhere. I'm trying to make our area as self sufficient as possible. I now have a tractor and acreage, my next purchase will be a pickup sans computer that I (or any other dummy) can work on. Old skool rocks!! ::cool::
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Re: Lessons from the 2012 election
« Reply #110 on: November 12, 2012, 06:02:54 PM »

Same here, I was relieved when I closed on the city place
and after the election doubly.  And I like my stuff.




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Re: Lessons from the 2012 election
« Reply #111 on: November 12, 2012, 06:24:05 PM »
Yeah like I said earlier Ann's approach only works if millions do it, if they don't...

I am halfway through my mortgage, it's debatable what comes first - paying it off or having it turn to crap when everything hits the fan...but the BOL is paid for, so...

Nah nah nah nah nah!  Pass that "no tresspassing' sign at your own risk!   ;)
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Re: Lessons from the 2012 election
« Reply #112 on: November 12, 2012, 06:47:06 PM »
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Start liquidating your stuff now if, like me, you are going to eventually lose your home, which should actually be in play for almost everyone except the very wealthy who don't need to generate any income (and thus pay no taxes) to survive and and simply live off of their existing wealth. Anyone who generates income and declares a tax strike should start preparing now to have their home and the contents of their home seized. Thus, get rid of everything now so that there is nothing for them to seize.

That sounds fine and dandy, but where is one supposed to hoard their gold and silver with no where to live? Going Galt seems kind of tough with no where to run.

Ann sees something noble in allowing them to make her penniless.  However, you can bury your gold pretty much anywhere  in a Nat forrest and no one will find it..


Until they break out the drones and start tagging along.

I'm with the majority. My house is paid for, I'm not going anywhere. I'm trying to make our area as self sufficient as possible. I now have a tractor and acreage, my next purchase will be a pickup sans computer that I (or any other dummy) can work on. Old skool rocks!! ::cool::

 Or get your hands on an older unit and knock it back to the 60s without and computer in it at all.Old school engine and transmissions aren't that hard to come up with.But if you can find on a standard trans would have benefits.
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Re: Lessons from the 2012 election
« Reply #113 on: November 13, 2012, 09:57:08 AM »
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Lessons from the 2012 election

some people don't learn

My daughter has two friends who put up pictures on their FB celebrating BO's win. 

One is Jewish.  She even went so far as to make a wallpaper with pictures of the guy.  She's in one picture with a big, fat grin holding  a Forward! sign.
My daughter asked what's wrong with her?  She's Jewish doesn't she understand....?  I said Liberal first, Jewish second.  No, American Jews thinks being liberal is being Jewish. And I suspect that more than a few don't like the Christian aspects that appear in the republican side.

The other is black and Catholic. Crazy excited would describe her reaction to his win.  My answer to this?  She voted based on race.  She converted from Baptist a few years ago and is quite proud of her preacher grandfather.  I don't question her desire or reason to convert but seems to me you take the whole package  when you convert in this day and age. It's not like she didn't know when she joined the Catholic church what she was joining.  It seems to me that race trumped faith.



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Re: Lessons from the 2012 election
« Reply #114 on: November 13, 2012, 10:20:02 AM »



The OTW demographic is interesting.

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Re: Lessons from the 2012 election
« Reply #115 on: November 13, 2012, 10:42:03 AM »
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The other is black and Catholic. Crazy excited would describe her reaction to his win.  My answer to this?  She voted based on race.  She converted from Baptist a few years ago and is quite proud of her preacher grandfather.  I don't question her desire or reason to convert but seems to me you take the whole package  when you convert in this day and age. It's not like she didn't know when she joined the Catholic church what she was joining.  It seems to me that race trumped faith.

Barnhardt refers to these people as "ethnic Catholics", which is a pretty clever borrowing of the term "ethnic Jew" (which apparently describes your daughter's other friend).

Look at the chart CO posted.  Among Catholics, the majority still voted for Obama.  Among Latino Catholics, it was 75% for Obama.  Hispanics are supposedly this very religious, conservative group, but they just voted for a man who has ordered their Church and every other Christian Church to violate their most fundamental beliefs. They did this because "Santa Claus" will win any popularity contest.
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Re: Lessons from the 2012 election
« Reply #116 on: November 13, 2012, 11:18:42 AM »
Lots of Free Shyt types pretending not to covet thy neighbor's stuff, eh?

 ::cussing::  'em!

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Re: Lessons from the 2012 election
« Reply #117 on: November 13, 2012, 12:42:22 PM »



The OTW demographic is interesting.



So.....if we can get the Jews and Catholics on board it would never be close. The two groups raped by this administration and they still vote for dems.
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Re: Lessons from the 2012 election
« Reply #118 on: November 13, 2012, 12:47:02 PM »
another lesson not learned...

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U.S. Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad led a bipartisan call today for Congress to approve a multi-year extension of the renewable energy production tax credit that they called critical to the wind energy industry.

The lame duck Congress “needs to pass at least the one-year extension,” Grassley said at a Washington news conference.

Uncertainty about the tax credit is hurting wind energy production and local communities where wind energy-related manufacturers are laying off workers, Branstad added.

“Thousands of jobs in the wind industry have already been impacted by the credit’s looming expiration, and thousands more are at risk,” Branstad and Oregon Gov. John Kitzhaber wrote to congressional leaders. “We urge you to take swift action to extend the (production tax credit) before the end of this congressional session.”
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Re: Lessons from the 2012 election
« Reply #119 on: November 13, 2012, 12:54:29 PM »

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/exitpoll-1.png

The OTW demographic is interesting.



So.....if we can get the Jews and Catholics on board it would never be close. The two groups raped by this administration and they still vote for dems.

I'm beginning to think secession would be easier achieved.
Romney received the white Catholic vote Obama the Hispanic Catholic.  The fault must be the Catholic Church not providing homogeneity of their teaching and the influx of voters whose cultural heritage is that of voting for tyrants and living in submission with no concept of themselves as individuals.  Again, this is the fault of the American Catholic Church not educating their parishioners that in America their rights are from God and not the State.