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Title: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on August 28, 2023, 02:09:48 PM
I am back to watching video blogger content from Russia. I have watched Bald and Bankrupt before, also Eli from Russia, maybe Britanica guy. Now this Brit Jonny Tickle is much more concise. 

Moscow compared to rest of Russia.

https://youtu.be/ev5NbuO1f7k
Moscow is NOT Russia 15 min

Jonny Tickle
24.9K subscribers

19,672 views  Feb 13, 2019
I’m stood today in Red Square, the Russian symbol, to talk about a topic which comes up so often here. If you ever find yourself with a Russian not from Moscow, and you tell them you visited Russia because you visited the capital, you’re guaranteed to hear one thing - “Moscow is NOT Russia.” This is even a common comment on my youtube videos from provincial Russians who think I have never left Moscow, even though it’s not true.   Why do many Russians believe Moscow, and to a certain extend St Petersburg, is not Russia?

https://youtu.be/sUzcVRC4tK8
THIRD CLASS ON A RUSSIAN TRAIN 4 min

Jonny Tickle
7,229 views Dec 9, 2019
Over my last few transiberian train videos, many of you have asked to see the inside of Russian Trains, so over the next 3 days I’m gonna show you a few clips from inside 3rd, 2nd and 1st class cabins over three different videos. In this video I’m gonna talk you through third class. Let’s take a look!

https://youtu.be/-QgaD3yWl0E
2ND CLASS ON A RUSSIAN TRAIN 3 min

https://youtu.be/KFoAYGkr8MY
FIRST CLASS ON THE TRANS-SIBERIAN 4 min

https://youtu.be/3vDCNzEN3Sw
An Englishman in Khabarovsk

Jonny Tickle
I plan to visit every single oblast, krai and republic in Russia before I leave.

This is number 19: The city of Khabarovsk in Khabarovsk Krai

Today I’m in the city of Khabarovsk. Khabarovsk is the capital of Khabarovsk Krai and is only 30km from China. Khabarovsk is the largest city in the Far East with over 600k people and is the 26th biggest city in Russia.

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2023, 08:19:39 AM
Heh, people everywhere resent being dismissed as fly-over country or assumed to be less in any way to big city snobs... 

As for those two cities...if I was forced to choose I would much rather visit St. Petersburg over Moscow...heck, Vladivostok would be better than Moscow IMO...

But I am not going anywhere...

As for trains, 1st class or nothing...

Unless it's Amtrak in which case nothing is a smart option...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on August 29, 2023, 08:50:39 AM
Heh, people everywhere resent being dismissed as fly-over country or assumed to be less in any way to big city snobs... 

As for those two cities...if I was forced to choose I would much rather visit St. Petersburg over Moscow...heck, Vladivostok would be better than Moscow IMO...

But I am not going anywhere...

As for trains, 1st class or nothing...

Unless it's Amtrak in which case nothing is a smart option...

This is interesting. The criticisms of Moscow are not all true. Amusing. Also, earlier migrants to Moscow look down on more recent arrivals from the same place. Moscow is a nice city from the videos I have seen.
https://youtu.be/19qwCQWOyn0
 The Most HATED City in Russia
Setarko
54.7K subscribers
111,204 views  Jan 4, 2023
There is a common pattern in many European (and not only European) countries - residents of other cities do not like the residents of the capital. And vise versa. The same thing can be found in Russia. Muscovites are considered lazy, arrogant and annoying. But, most importantly, most people outside of Moscow think that our capital lives at their expense. That all the taxes from Russia are collected in Moscow and then are spent on its improvement. Meanwhile, the rest of Russia is drowning in poverty. Let's discuss this problem today - Is Moscow robbing Russia? Or Russia is just an over-centralized country?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on August 29, 2023, 10:51:25 AM
IMO the short video on Moldova at the end is worth watching. In short, under USSR it was a well kept place. Now it has been looted. That happened to Russia under Yeltsin also. Then Bald goes to the Tranistyria. I found  some more videos, some from others so I may revisit Moldova soon and post. Some video titles dispute Bald's conclusions.

I obtained most of my information on the Ukraine war early through telegram posts.
Especially Mariupol video clips. It is possible they are CGI or actors but the sources are too diverse and I believe them more than any govt. Civilians and army on all sides like to post on social media and it tells something about themselves.

I also believe what I see and hear on many video blogs. I watched Bald and Bankrupt and noticed that sometimes people would say that life was better under USSR. I thought this was crazy, as I 'knew' better. I have never set foot in Russia.

Recently came across some polls or referendums where people wanted to remain in the USSR, but I noticed this was not the result. I just scratched my head. Those people who voted that way may have right?

I came across this long doc from Australia I think. 1984 USSR. It seems real hokey but real. Something good has been lost. I think they reclaimed some of that without the bad. Some of this sounds like propaganda but I notice what they ere pushing. Workers.

https://youtu.be/Hlb-HwxUxSU
 The Human Face of Russia (1984) - society and everyday life in 1980s USSR
Bits of History
13.7K subscribers
479,691 views  Mar 12, 2022  #1980s #Soviet_Union #history
1984 documentary on the USSR.
Produced by Film Australia.

https://youtu.be/wnDxHTaeNX0
Nobody Visits This Country...Find Out Why 16 min
bald and bankrupt
3.85M subscribers
11,404,421 views  Apr 11, 2019
🇲🇩 Moldova is the least visited country in Europe. And so I came to its capital city Kishinev to see why...It did not take long to find the answer. Years of theft and corruption by politicians has left the locals of the country tripping up on broken pavements and walking past abandoned buildings on their way to collect their 40 Euro pensions.

The parts he showed seem orderly? He did not show much inside in Moldova outside this region?
https://youtu.be/5kVnrqBb6y4
This Country Does Not Exist! | Transnistria

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on August 29, 2023, 12:11:28 PM
Yes...so much to miss about the USSR...little/bad food, presumed guilty always, no gun ownership, free train rides to Siberia, pogroms and millions executed...

Ahh, the good 'ol days...

/
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on August 29, 2023, 03:00:26 PM
Yes...so much to miss about the USSR...little/bad food, presumed guilty always, no gun ownership, free train rides to Siberia, pogroms and millions executed...

Ahh, the good 'ol days...

/

I know all that and a lot more bad stuff, so I was surprised to hear people tell bald they missed the USSR. Recently I saw that Australian doc and then the Bald Moldovan trip. I listened to the old guys talk abut how things had gotten worse since the USSR fell, unless you were rich.

In the USSR theoretically everything belonged to the people, but controlled by the govt. After the collapse somehow almost everything belonged to some oligarchs thanks to the drunk Yeltsin, whom the US helped into office and the west loved. Being looted by the likes of Blackrock, Cargill,  and Soros isn't all that great, even if the corporate press calls it "Democracy" and "Freedom."
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on August 30, 2023, 10:17:38 AM
My opinions are just opinions, not God's truth revealed through me.
If think and say that X happened that is separate from the opinion as to whether that was morally right or wrong and the  opinions as to whether that advanced American interests.

I think that US policy makers look on the world like a board game and the goal is to weaken other countries that are getting too strong in their areas. There are other goals. One way is to exploit existing disputes or grievances by funding them, arming them, perhaps getting involved militarily. IMO US funded NAZIs in Poland and Ukraine 1946-1953 to weaken USSR. 400K dead on all sides. IMO Turkey and UAE(?) started the Syrian civil war and the US piled on a year later with money and arms. US funding went from a conspiracy theory, to funding 'moderate rebels', to a CIA complaint that they had to spend too much of their budget.  I think the US funded the Chechen wars to weaken Russia.

IMO Russia wanted to get along with the west, even join NATO,  but that would lessen the reason for NATO to exist.

The 'geniuses' in DC knew that if Kiev attacked the Donbass Russia would go to war. They believed  that the resulting sanctions would destroy the Russian economy, causing regime change, allowing US and other globalists to strip Russia bare as they started to do in the 1990s. The US wanted the war and acted to make it happen. It did not go according to plan. Russia did a pre-emptive strike and their economy did fine. Soros wrote a 2013 paper proposing using US tech with eastern European manpower to reduce NATO body bags. Here we are.

I watch some videos like I read cases studies in anthropology class long ago. Recently this doc about the human face of USSR. Hmmm. They give pride of place to 'workers.' The material wealth or lack of it is on display in the video. BTW the communal living places (shared kitchens and bathrooms) still exist in St. Petersburg as a cheap place to live.

I watched the  bald and bankrupt video from Moldova. Bald talked to locals who told him things were much better under USSR, unless you were rich. The WEF "young leader" program is well known now. There are other similar programs. The president of Moldova was in one, and went to university in US as I recall. IMO She sold out her country. US would  love to start a civil war there over Transnistria.

What surprised me was how willing the EU leaders were to sell out their citizens to US interests. IF there was a Ukraine war THEN there would be millions of refugees. Therefore, implement Minsk accords to prevent the war. IF Germany stops using Russian nat gas THEN their economy would be destroyed. Therefore don't do that. Germany used to sell lots of stuff, like BMWs, to Russia. Not any more. Now China does. Newer taxis in Moscow are Chinese.

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on November 07, 2023, 10:12:05 AM
Easy to be Czar for life when no opposition is ever allowed to reach a threatening level...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-seek-re-election-2024-5th-term-reuters (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-seek-re-election-2024-5th-term-reuters)

...the model the DemoNazis here have fully embraced...and the Cucks have allowed...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Syzygy on November 07, 2023, 03:35:37 PM
Easy to be Czar for life when no opposition is ever allowed to reach a threatening level...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-seek-re-election-2024-5th-term-reuters (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-seek-re-election-2024-5th-term-reuters)

...the model the DemoNazis here have fully embraced...and the Cucks have allowed...

I'm sure Pat is very pleased with this.  Just like "the good ol' days" in the USSR.   ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on November 08, 2023, 09:21:11 AM
Easy to be Czar for life when no opposition is ever allowed to reach a threatening level...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-seek-re-election-2024-5th-term-reuters (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-seek-re-election-2024-5th-term-reuters)

...the model the DemoNazis here have fully embraced...and the Cucks have allowed...

I'm sure Pat is very pleased with this.  Just like "the good ol' days" in the USSR.   ::hysterical::

Many will be.  I've never denied Putin is popular among many Russians and admired by many foreigners...I just bristle at any difference between their elite overlords and ours or anybody's for they are the norm not the exception...and suppressing political opposition is not a hallmark of ethical or moral government and certainly not a hallmark of a legitimate electoral system.

As for foreign admirers go not many go ex pat to Russia...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on November 08, 2023, 09:27:54 AM
In others news...

Russia exiting the 1990 Conventional Forces in Europe (CFE) treaty has resulted in NATO announcing they will kick it aside on December 7th.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/landmark-treaty-conventional-armed-forces-europe-collapses-after-russia-then-nato (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/landmark-treaty-conventional-armed-forces-europe-collapses-after-russia-then-nato)

Another pretty gift to NATO to keep their band together.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on November 08, 2023, 11:54:58 AM


From your link above another story

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/netanyahu-rejects-biden-request-3-day-pause-gaza-war-idf-tightens-noose (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/netanyahu-rejects-biden-request-3-day-pause-gaza-war-idf-tightens-noose)
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on December 12, 2023, 08:23:00 AM
"Is there a single place where the US intervened with military force, where life has become better? I think you know the answer,"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/end-western-dominance-and-rise-polycentric-world-lavrov-declares-doha-forum (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/end-western-dominance-and-rise-polycentric-world-lavrov-declares-doha-forum)

Change "US" to "Russia" and ask some folks...

That fragile Rus ego never deviates...Rus are exactly like NeoCons/Startists/Globalists...incapable of ever admitting error in anything.

Whatever...let us see how well your polycentric world thrives, avoids conflict and makes all equally happy...   ::pokeineye::

But one thing is certain...they'll never let go of their bogeyman...which ironically and not surprisingly feeds their bogeyman to return the favor...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on December 12, 2023, 03:36:22 PM
"Is there a single place where the US intervened with military force, where life has become better? I think you know the answer,"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/end-western-dominance-and-rise-polycentric-world-lavrov-declares-doha-forum (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/end-western-dominance-and-rise-polycentric-world-lavrov-declares-doha-forum)

Change "US" to "Russia" and ask some folks...

That fragile Rus ego never deviates...Rus are exactly like NeoCons/Startists/Globalists...incapable of ever admitting error in anything.

Whatever...let us see how well your polycentric world thrives, avoids conflict and makes all equally happy...   ::pokeineye::

But one thing is certain...they'll never let go of their bogeyman...which ironically and not surprisingly feeds their bogeyman to return the favor...

I recall 7 regime changes planned in 5 years. Did any of them make the place better? I recall the "Grand Chessboard" and similar US strategies were to harm other countries to make the US relatively stronger, not to make any better.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on December 13, 2023, 08:51:40 AM
"Is there a single place where the US intervened with military force, where life has become better? I think you know the answer,"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/end-western-dominance-and-rise-polycentric-world-lavrov-declares-doha-forum (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/end-western-dominance-and-rise-polycentric-world-lavrov-declares-doha-forum)

Change "US" to "Russia" and ask some folks...

That fragile Rus ego never deviates...Rus are exactly like NeoCons/Startists/Globalists...incapable of ever admitting error in anything.

Whatever...let us see how well your polycentric world thrives, avoids conflict and makes all equally happy...   ::pokeineye::

But one thing is certain...they'll never let go of their bogeyman...which ironically and not surprisingly feeds their bogeyman to return the favor...

I recall 7 regime changes planned in 5 years. Did any of them make the place better? I recall the "Grand Chessboard" and similar US strategies were to harm other countries to make the US relatively stronger, not to make any better.

Not defending Zbigniew Brzezinski or his schemes...but would he have even been relevant if not for the Fascist & Communist rape, pillage and slaughter in Poland in WWII and his fortunate escape to the West?

Ironically, his birthplace of Berezhany in modern day Ukraine but then under Polish rule following long Habsburg domination...the region was predominately Western Ukrainian/Ruthenian peasants and in Habsburg times the Poles were their middlemen administrators...his birthplace was probably less than 40 miles away from my paternal Ruthenian ancestral home...his escape from the area was a little more comfortable and easy than my ancestor's egress...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on December 28, 2023, 02:51:22 PM
Hilarious...

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/12/25/president-alexander-lukashenko-states-russian-tactical-nuclear-weapons-now-staged-in-belarus/

Russian nukes in Belarus give Lukashenko a (middle) leg tingle...when in fact he is the new West German pawn in this new era of cold war conflict...

What an idiot.

Well, whatever...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 02, 2024, 01:40:59 PM

Agent Nesty she is cute and funny. BTW there were low level hoodlums in Russia that wore Adidas track suits,, squatted,  and stole from people.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sOyExKt879s?feature=share (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sOyExKt879s?feature=share)

Another cute one

https://youtu.be/Z8V_iPcVuKs (https://youtu.be/Z8V_iPcVuKs)

https://youtu.be/iNaEaqr8Owc (https://youtu.be/iNaEaqr8Owc)
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on January 03, 2024, 08:01:37 AM
Must be stuck in the Northern latitudes...girl is damn near pale.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 03, 2024, 01:52:47 PM

Yeah. Many Russian girls do not get much sun. Here is a fan slide show of Alina Gingertail. Very pale. Lives in Khabarovsk on Amur River north of Vladivostok. Not a natural redhead btw.
https://youtu.be/OHOvVXev-WE

reminds me of a fan convention in which red head  Felicia day was on a panel and some (rude) person asked if the the carpet matched the drapes. she did not understand so her fellow panelist whispered to  her. she was very shocked embarrassed and pissed.

Here is who she is. She was ut austin valedictorian in violin and math and a big gamer. cute video.

https://youtu.be/xMrN3Rh55uM
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 03, 2024, 01:58:36 PM

i found the clip
https://youtu.be/GbFjePdOpK8
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 21, 2024, 09:33:28 PM

I like this guy. He grew up in Ukraine maybe first a village then Kiev. He taught in a summer camp in US MI teaching photography then moved here. He has lots of factual videos on growing up there. Here he makes a long requested video. How was the 1980 US hockey victory over USSR covered?

In short, covered in brief on the last page of a USSR sports newspaper. In the US he watched the Miracle on Ice. He was rutting for the USSR and his US  kids got real pissed at him which he found funny.

Everybody remembers where they were during that hockey game, correct? I do. Madison WI was shut down during that game. No one out on the streets. Much later, I heard the USSR goalie moved to Minneapolis. I recall he failed to catch the last goal. Herb, the coach died in a single car accident, likely asleep from sleep apnea.

Not worth watching IMO.
https://youtu.be/ylBeEdyHcYg
 Soviet Reaction to the "Miracle On Ice" in Lake Placid #olympics

also
https://youtu.be/KUfEKDG0s4A
New Zealand Girl Reacts to the MIRACLE - THE GREATEST AMERICAN SPORTS MOMENT OF ALL TIME
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on January 22, 2024, 08:26:24 AM
Well, my father rooting for the Soviets would be like my father embracing Satan...just not going to happen...we were both raised and trained to kill Soviets and all commie rat bastards...somebody pull a stunt like that in my family gets excommunicated!

It also looks like a cautionary tale about being very careful who you let into the country to me...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 22, 2024, 02:08:35 PM


The Ukr ex pat, current US citizen watched the movie version(?) of the game after he moved here and had US kids.
He is not pro USSR in politics but was cheering on the home team when they made a goal which pissed off his kids.

He makes videos describing everyday life growing  up and I like such material. He did one long video on Soviet military. If you went to certain tech universities you were exempt from conscription but had to pick them carefully. If you failed that school's entrance exam you got drafted the next day and  served then 2 years. Now maybe one. I think they had something like ROTC at those schools.

He said people brought their own food to hospitals. He suspects that the staff stole some food and the good food was diluted or reduced in portions. He had some eye surgery as his eyesight was terrible. I then remembered that Russians/USSR invented Lasik.

The best jobs were those that allowed you to have access to scarce goods like a butcher, retail, cook, or even waiter. In those pre internet days certain jobs allowed you to network and gather scarce information by talking to people. E.g. cab driver. That also allowed access to scarce goods.  BTW Putin worked as a cab driver for a while in st. Pete as I recall.

He describes the good and the bad but some people get all butt hurt if he says anything positive about growing up in USSR.m
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on January 23, 2024, 08:14:28 AM
At the very least idiot ought to know his audience...Americans don't root for Soviets no matter the excuse...those who do get their asses kicked, should have kept that crap bottled up...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 23, 2024, 05:04:34 PM
In short, I saw a headline for a large protest in Russia and thought maybe anti war? So I clicked. Some popular local guy got a long sentence for allegedly inciting violence against immigrants from central aisa. IMO not worth watching the video.



There is this Russian YT guy, maybe left Russia in protest against the ukr invasion? Depressing guy so I do not watch much. All he does is piss and moan.  I did not watch the whole video.
He came in my YT feed so i clicked. There is some protest quite large. I know that RU has laws against inciting religious or ethnic hatred.The protests were against a heavy sentence for a popular local guy.
Here is the BBC version.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68029262 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68029262)
...
Bashkir singer Altynai Valitov was visited by local authorities in Ufa after he put out a call on Instagram for protests to take place both in Bashkortostan and elsewhere in Russia.

Fail Alsynov was convicted of insulting migrants at a demonstration against plans to mine for gold, but supporters said it was delayed revenge for his activism in preventing soda mining in what locals consider a sacred place.

He is said to have called Central Asians and Caucasians, who make up most of Russia's migrant population, "black people", considered a derogatory term in Russian.

But he insists the words he used in the Bashkir language mean "poor people" and were mistranslated into Russian. He intends to appeal against the verdict.

Alsynov has also in the past criticised military mobilisation in the region as "genocide" of the Bashkir people, a Turkic race closely related to the Tatars which inhabits the southern Ural mountains.

https://youtu.be/ehqlcC_O32U (https://youtu.be/ehqlcC_O32U)

RUSSIAN PROVINCE BASHKORTOSTAN IS PROTESTING | Breaking News!
INSIDE RUSSIA
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 23, 2024, 05:17:13 PM

Have the ex Ukr guy tells some jokes.

A local artist gets his art work inspected by culture/censorship board. The painting has 3 naked black men, one with a white penis.  The boards asks why 3 black men instead of Russian proletarians. Artist says these are 3 white coal miners about to take a shower before going home.

So why the white penis? That miner went home for lunch.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on January 24, 2024, 08:51:05 AM
Da!   ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on January 31, 2024, 08:52:26 AM
FWIW - https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/massive-new-russian-natural-gas-pipeline-china-faces-delays (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/massive-new-russian-natural-gas-pipeline-china-faces-delays)
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 31, 2024, 04:10:52 PM

Reminds me of an older story. USSR or RU was building a gas pipeline but did not have the SW to control the stations. So they decided to steal the SW from a US company. CIA found out and planted flaky SW which was stolen. The SW would intermittently stress the system.  Finally there was a major explosion maybe in Siberia. Seen from space.

So this SW was a little like the stuxnet SW but not as clever.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 01, 2024, 01:09:32 PM

I recently learned from various sources that Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn was mostly a fraud who made things up. He greatly exaggerated the number of people in the Gulags. His wife said he just made things up. Russians mostly despised him. After 1991 the records became available but he refused to revise anything pointing out that the Gulag books were fiction, as indicated in the title.

He was a useful idiot for the west.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 01, 2024, 02:46:20 PM
Sure, commies kept good records of who went to gulag, who perished...who was executed in the woods...totally believable. 

As always what number makes it right or wrong in the end?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 07, 2024, 08:58:09 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-releases-9m-frozen-north-korean-assets-helping-kim-skirt-un-sanctions (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-releases-9m-frozen-north-korean-assets-helping-kim-skirt-un-sanctions)

Well, ain't that nice?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 07, 2024, 04:07:11 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-releases-9m-frozen-north-korean-assets-helping-kim-skirt-un-sanctions (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-releases-9m-frozen-north-korean-assets-helping-kim-skirt-un-sanctions)

Well, ain't that nice?

I do not get that. Russia froze NK assets?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 07, 2024, 04:17:19 PM
Sure, commies kept good records of who went to gulag, who perished...who was executed in the woods...totally believable. 

As always what number makes it right or wrong in the end?

I think than they did keep good records. They had some sort of legal fetish. The trials were not fair or just but they checked off all the boxes.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 08, 2024, 08:04:06 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-releases-9m-frozen-north-korean-assets-helping-kim-skirt-un-sanctions (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-releases-9m-frozen-north-korean-assets-helping-kim-skirt-un-sanctions)

Well, ain't that nice?

I do not get that. Russia froze NK assets?

In return for missiles and ammo...   ;)
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 08, 2024, 08:05:36 AM
Sure, commies kept good records of who went to gulag, who perished...who was executed in the woods...totally believable. 

As always what number makes it right or wrong in the end?

I think than they did keep good records. They had some sort of legal fetish. The trials were not fair or just but they checked off all the boxes.

So the right number is 1:1 with the number star-chambered and guilty...

Good to know
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 08, 2024, 02:44:28 PM
I am slowly reading a book on life and terror under Stalin. A little too detailed for me. Year by year trends. There were plots against Stalin which sent his paranoia into overdrive.  Lots of evidence going both ways that he was a monster and lenient. The worst was during early 30s during collectivization. The civil war took a toll. He compared the Russians to the Germans who were mostly in favor of NAZIs who did not rely of terror mostly as they did not have to.

https://www.amazon.com/Life-Terror-Stalins-Russia-1934-1941/dp/0300074425 (https://www.amazon.com/Life-Terror-Stalins-Russia-1934-1941/dp/0300074425)
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 09, 2024, 09:33:38 AM
Ever see this?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4686844/ (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4686844/)

 ;D
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 09, 2024, 01:25:01 PM
Ever see this?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4686844/ (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4686844/)

 ;D

No. Is it good? Is this one the comedy I heard about?

About the book I am reading.
Chapt 3 starts the better material around page 59. In part of a table. Pct targeted for exile /death in 1937 Moscow oblast 0.25/0.041 Leningrad oblast 0.15/0.059 in 1937. Other oblasts were mostly  less.
Then a table 1934-1938.   for all crimes, counter revolutionary crimes, convictions , executions.
For 1937-1928 respectively 1.6M, 1.4 M, 1.3M, 700K.

I think 1930-31 are not in table as part of collectivization. 1934-1938 have increasing deaths. In part maybe due to NAZI intrigue fingering innocent politicians and military.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 09, 2024, 04:40:31 PM
Ever see this?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4686844/ (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4686844/)

 ;D

No. Is it good? Is this one the comedy I heard about?

About the book I am reading.
Chapt 3 starts the better material around page 59. In part of a table. Pct targeted for exile /death in 1937 Moscow oblast 0.25/0.041 Leningrad oblast 0.15/0.059 in 1937. Other oblasts were mostly  less.
Then a table 1934-1938.   for all crimes, counter revolutionary crimes, convictions , executions.
For 1937-1928 respectively 1.6M, 1.4 M, 1.3M, 700K.

I think 1930-31 are not in table as part of collectivization. 1934-1938 have increasing deaths. In part maybe due to NAZI intrigue fingering innocent politicians and military.

I thought it was hilarious...and in some respects totally believable...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 12, 2024, 12:15:32 PM
I have this on. Sachs says Russia fear/hatred goes back 1000 years before 1917. Alexander says you could take UK editorials from 1815 through the Crimean war and publish them today and they would seem current. Anti Russia. I am just trying to figure out this whole Russophobia thing which goes back a long way. In short, Russia is big and scary. Alexander says London is the center of Russophobia. In 1800s Russia was said to be about to invade India. Not realistic but who cares.

https://youtu.be/eJNg5OwM6VU
 Putin's message to the west w/ Jeffrey Sachs (Live)
The Duran

update
Sachs is on for 30 minutes only. Good stuff. How MSM and NYT refuse to do reporting.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 12, 2024, 03:42:17 PM
Then why were so many Brits Russia-loving red commie traitors like Kim Philby & Guy Burgess (there were lots others)?

Snort!

Lots of red-lovers here too from Wilson on...FDR's man Harry Hopkins was a red.

Dem's after the Soviet fall wept about losing their soulmates...and now they are as totalitarian as any commie or fascist.

Also, Russia never helps itself when later rulers failed to stick with Catherine the Great's pivot West...the tortured Russian soul has always struggled with their identity and if they were East or West...there is always a glum everybody is out to get us cloud in their psyche they have never been able to shake...that and their indifference to strong-handed central leadership...Putin is Czar in all but name...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 13, 2024, 12:01:59 PM
I have a book to read on Russophobia. The subtitle indicates it might go back to the Catholic vs Orthodox split. Indra-religious wars are often nasty. .
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 13, 2024, 03:35:19 PM
Ahh, The Great Schism...

Many latter day armchair historians like to think the theological issues were secondary and the main driven was East-West hatred...but that is latter day socialist dreck (culminating in present day woke garbage) that seeks to promote cultural differences like socialists all like to do as a means of legitimizing their fringe beliefs and mainstreaming their powerbase...

It was not a Pope Leo IX vs Patriarch of Constantinople (or See of Constantinople) Michael Cerularius cage match.

Things came to a head in 1054 after a series of councils discussing theological issues and the primacy of the Bishops of the Churches.

A big point of contention was over the Trinity...the Latin use of filoque in the Nicene Creed for from whence the Holy Spirit flows...and it seems kind of odd for a "Christian" to demote Jesus as the Eastern Orthodox did, but it was a big deal to these early church leaders...as was using unleavened bread in Eucharist...and relatively lesser differences on original sin etc...and yes, governance.

The Bishop of Constantinople has an honorary title of First Among Equals but in Orthodox structure the Bishops of the key churches (and in their view) including the Bishop of Rome (aka The Pope) are all equals...(and interestingly the honorific First Among Equals was also used by the East for the Bishop of Rome pre-Schism)...the 5 Patriarchs were - Rome, Constantinople, Antioch, Jerusalem & Alexandria...  The East saw St.Peter as the first Bishop of Antioch, at this time not even the West saw him as the First Bishop of Rome...but around the 3rd century it became popular in the West to see him as First Pope, and many see the scripture where Jesus says to Peter he shall be the rock upon which he would build his church and the fact that he was martyred in Rome as support of that even if the title had not yet existed.  It also shows the centralized versus decentralized view of East and West at the time. 

Anyway, excommunications ensued both directions, each went their separate ways and not until the 4th Crusade did some ill-advised morons from Europe see an opportunity to plunder the wealth of the Eastern Empire than be slaughtered in the dust of the Holy Land fighting howling Muslim hordes...

If some are butthurt over that, well...that's their problem.  Vatican II saw reconciliation and the lifting of each others excommunication decrees.  Everybody is getting along now...nobody needs to be an asshole.  Well, Z...but that's his fricken problem, not mine/ours/yours.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 13, 2024, 04:24:35 PM

How do you know all of the above? Why and when did you learn that?
I am only trying to figure out the Russia hatred that seems to have started long ago.
e.g. Why Russiagate? I cannot think of a time when Russians were not the boogeymen.

Russia did occupy much land in driving the Axis back into Germany but that does not seem bad by historical standards plus they left. Romans would have enslaved them and plowed salt into the soil. Mongols would have killed them all. Germans had the "special groups" to hunt down civilians, not the USSR. I will try to learn why the USSR fell apart. Yeah USSR troops  got permission to rape in Berlin for a while but at least the victims  lived.

 I get the feeling it was political suicide by the USSR leaders. I am only now learning how life fell apart after the USSR collapse. Gorbachev is viewed as a traitor. Yeltsin a drunk.

I get the impression that many of the occupied lands before and after WWII were money losers for USSR/Russia. I think that the Baltics really tanked after USSR fell rather than improve, at least for a couple decades. Plus they lost a lot of people. Why are they so nasty now? Maybe they get their time in the limelight before their leaders join NGOs.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 13, 2024, 04:37:05 PM

Quote
A big point of contention was over the Trinity...the Latin use of filoque in the Nicene Creed for from whence the Holy Spirit flows...and it seems kind of odd for a "Christian" to demote Jesus as the Eastern Orthodox did, but it was a big deal to these early church leaders...as was using unleavened bread in Eucharist...and relatively lesser differences on original sin etc...and yes, governance.

Reminds me. Long ago a Russian exchange student pointed out a painting in a book. Some famous battle where people who crossed themselves with 2 finers fought people who used 3 fingers. She said it was more complicated than that and involved som,el forced change in liturgy.

A while back I watched another video blog of a visit to an isolated village in Siberia where the "Old Believers" lived. One of the factions. I saw the painting again.

https://youtu.be/6sdbf2XZJuU
 Religious Refugees Who Opposed Moscow and fled to Siberia. What happened to them?
Real Reporter

180K subscribers
 
 
370,008 views  Jul 11, 2023
Agafia Lykova is perhaps the most famous hermit living in the Siberian wilderness. Not everyone knows that she's a descendant of the Old Believers, Russian Orthodox Christians who fled to this frontier 300 years ago fearing repression and persecution from Moscow's official Church. Today, Old Believers are still found in secluded Siberian communities, where they maintain peculiar traditions inherited from their ancestors.

https://orthochristian.com/60716.html
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 14, 2024, 12:18:48 PM

Tucker asked Putin about the jailed WSJ journalist. Putin said that they had proof he was spying, received secret documents,  and was dealing with it through channels.

Ritter reminded me of something. The CIA said they would not rule out using journalists as spies. This pissed off journalists as they said it marked them as possible spies. Ritter guessed that given the location, Yekaterinburg, the guy was trying to find numbers of missile production and stockpiles.

What is Yekaterinburg Russia known for?
Today, Yekaterinburg is primarily known both as a center of heavy industry and steel-making, the Russian equivalent of Pittsburgh, and as a major freight transportation hub.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 14, 2024, 02:54:08 PM
Well, he should quit being a pussy then and just put him up against a wall and shoot him then...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 14, 2024, 04:33:27 PM
Well, he should quit being a pussy then and just put him up against a wall and shoot him then...

Naw. They swap them now. Maybe worse if a traitor. But this guy is American. I heard they want to swap him for some assassin who is in EU custody. I think they want to try him for the crime of killing some Russian in EU.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 14, 2024, 04:37:09 PM

Some cute RU propaganda video that is pro Carlson. An eagle flies with a microphone interviews the RU bear while uncle same seethes while the curtain raises and reveals a nice RU. Same people make the Ukr piglet animations.

https://t.me/svinkavobmoroke/460
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 15, 2024, 09:30:40 AM
Well, he should quit being a pussy then and just put him up against a wall and shoot him then...

Naw. They swap them now. Maybe worse if a traitor. But this guy is American. I heard they want to swap him for some assassin who is in EU custody. I think they want to try him for the crime of killing some Russian in EU.

And that's why there is no trade...maybe Putin should arrange an escape and pin a murder on him, par it up...   ::rolllaughing::
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 15, 2024, 01:00:45 PM
OK, this is funny...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1758097544708538621 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1758097544708538621)

https://twitter.com/i/status/1758083759079923816 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1758083759079923816)

H/T-GP

Also...Larry Johnson at GP posted this...

(https://voxukraine.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/eng-merezha_propagandy_rosii-_na_Zahodi_1.jpg)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/looks-like-we-made-it-mike-turners-russian/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/looks-like-we-made-it-mike-turners-russian/)

Of course he is having fun with it...

On a personal note, I would not want to be associated with Escobar (so in love with anything Putin) and for Macgregor I think my opinion is known (he undercuts his statements with too much ego-driven detours)...

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 15, 2024, 04:10:20 PM

Thanks for the above. I only saw the LJ meme in Russian for some reason. I have watched everyone on there off and on.
Judge NAP has lots of those fmr CIA guys on his show but listed under "live" rather than videos after they play.
I trust amateur video bloggers more than any news source.
I love that Tucker did the grocery store video. Lots of video bloggers have been doing those for over a year, comparing current food prices to before the SMO but most people do not watch those. I like Eli from Russia.

Some ex pat from UK lived in St. Pete and heated his house with all electric. He said his winter monthly elec bill was around 100 USD.

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 15, 2024, 04:29:12 PM


I found this, If you download telegram desktop you can download a hi res version of the map of Russia. From 1887 Chambers Encyclopedia.
https://t.me/c/1458395831/328213
I may try to upload the hi res map into a link.
There is no Ukraine on the map.  BUT I notice there is a Lapland label stretching across Finland and Great Russia so other maps may also have geographic terms like this and Ukraine. The only reason I find this important is that people who say they are Ukrainian say they want to drive the subhuman Russians (civilians and army) off their sacred land. They have rewritten history to create an ancient Ukraine nation of the Ukr people from whom even the french, spainards, and jews descended.

Little Russia included Kiev within the eastern border. West Russia has Grodino on eastern border. Poland is centered on warsaw. Siberia may be a geographic term.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 15, 2024, 05:20:08 PM
OK, this is funny...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1758097544708538621 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1758097544708538621)

https://twitter.com/i/status/1758083759079923816 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1758083759079923816)

H/T-GP

Also...Larry Johnson at GP posted this...

(https://voxukraine.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/eng-merezha_propagandy_rosii-_na_Zahodi_1.jpg)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/looks-like-we-made-it-mike-turners-russian/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/looks-like-we-made-it-mike-turners-russian/)

Of course he is having fun with it...

On a personal note, I would not want to be associated with Escobar (so in love with anything Putin) and for Macgregor I think my opinion is known (he undercuts his statements with too much ego-driven detours)...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 15, 2024, 05:50:29 PM
OK, this is funny...
...
Of course he is having fun with it...

On a personal note, I would not want to be associated with Escobar (so in love with anything Putin) and for Macgregor I think my opinion is known (he undercuts his statements with too much ego-driven detours)...

IMO Jackson Hinkle is second rate. So is Redacted but they are getting better and include first rate people often on site. I presume they pay them. People like Patrick Lancaster. They dug into the Hawaii fire a lot.
Brian Berletic is a  CPC simp but he usually backs up what he says with lots of links, often from western sources, even US DOD.
I may look into the others. Alex Christoforou is fast paced, funny, and not too long. A daily news aggregator. From Cyrprus but grew up in US. Moscow, Mexico City. He seems to have a Long Islamd accent.

alex
https://youtu.be/0reEXeWjHBs

here is the RU propaganda Tucker meme
https://rumble.com/v4dgwh0-carlson-is-back.-.html

I had heard that Ukr rewrote history of the ancient Ukr people. Here is a meme
https://rumble.com/v4dgwh0-carlson-is-back.-.html

Depleted uranium meme
https://rumble.com/v2r9slm-ukraine-piglet-20-20-chapter-20-not-every-mushroom-is-a-truffle.html


three little Ujr pigs meme. Different source. Watch to the end.
https://youtu.be/QyMoKGJZ5jA


Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 16, 2024, 08:24:53 AM
I don't know the other names you mentioned, which it appears is a good thing...I have heard Christoforou from time to time and hear others mentioning him too here and there...he seems OK, not a rabid Putin gravy lover like Escobar...not an egomaniac like Macgregor...seems fairly stable, almost Tucker like, eh?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 16, 2024, 02:21:51 PM
Before I forget, how do you know so much about the history of the eastern orthodox and the like?

We differ on Macgregor. Just bc he wrote a few military history books and has a PhD does not mean is is right about everything but he seems to  know a lot of history and geography. He seems to know the current state of the US and other militaries. He also looks at things from the point of view of other countries.

Judge Nap also has on former ambassadors Chas Freeman and Alastair Crooke, both very measured and wise IMO. Plus several former CIA and US DOD or state dept. Larry Johnson, Col. Shaefer? Col. Davis? Ray McGovern. Look under the "live" YT playlists. His friday intel round table is pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/@judgingfreedom/streams (https://www.youtube.com/@judgingfreedom/streams)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPYrFstT3q8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPYrFstT3q8)



Alex differs on the events of the day he is covering. When Alexander is added they are "The Duran" but be drones on and on and speaks slowly His aunt was some greek actress and politician.

Brian Berletic is former US marine. What he added for me is pointing out the US NGO background and training of many in  US funded opposition parties around the world, starting with Thailand where he lives.  US NED does the work of the old CIA around the world. He shows the inter locking boards and even extended families involved. Also massive supply and training and parts for the latest US weapons to save Ukraine. He backs it up with lots of links. He also shows the Harvard atlas of econ dev? You can view the degree of imports and exports for any  nation.

Finally, if you ever have more time, read Robert D. Kaplan (make sure the D is present. Balkan Ghosts was good and so was Monsoon.
He embedded with the Taliban fighting the soviets! he weaves geography, ethnography, history,and some geology. 
https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B000APBESC/allbooks?ingress=0&visitId=ca447547-939a-41b9-aad2-5ada3a02ac15&ref_=ap_rdr (https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B000APBESC/allbooks?ingress=0&visitId=ca447547-939a-41b9-aad2-5ada3a02ac15&ref_=ap_rdr)

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 16, 2024, 04:13:51 PM

I was given a Russian picture book long ago. It seemed every photos had a helicopter in the background. Siberia.
https://t.me/putingers_cat/8891

The Ket People / 2009
#Russia

Ket are indigenous people from the Yenisei River in Central Siberia. Their settlements can only be reached by a helicopter or a boat. The Ket way of life has remained the same for hundreds of years. They go hunting and fishing. Some people call them the Siberian Indians, as they are related to some native North American groups. There’re only around 1000 Ket people left and only 200 of them speak their native language. February 21 is International Mother Language Day! Ket is one of the rare languages in Russia, its closest relative language died out in the 20th century.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 16, 2024, 04:33:09 PM

When Kiev realizes they are losing they strike civilian targets rather than military.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/47500
??WOMAN'S AGONIZING WAIL RESOUNDS as people find dead, contorted bodies in the rubble of the Belgorod attack. (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/34083?single)

NATO-armed Ukrainian forces attack a mall on the outskirts of the city (pictured bottom right) - official sources yet to confirm number of perished.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 19, 2024, 08:02:41 AM
Sure, worth billions more in US taxpayer money...some for bombs, some for payoffs, some for blow up Z's nose...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 21, 2024, 08:36:43 AM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/russia-arrests-u-s-citizen-on-treason-charges-for-donating-50-to-ukrainian-charity (https://www.dailywire.com/news/russia-arrests-u-s-citizen-on-treason-charges-for-donating-50-to-ukrainian-charity)

Wow.

She'll be popular in gulag...

Lesson?  Once out stay out.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 21, 2024, 09:11:19 AM
And looks like the Rooskies finally caught up to this guy...

https://twitter.com/TOGAjano21/status/1759605320496603599
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 21, 2024, 12:17:49 PM

That was predictable. The helicopter pilot. I recall 2 crew member were killed.

I am not sure if this is in the news, but Navalny's organization was paid money by NED, a CIA cutout. Also, his right hand man was caught on camera asking MI6 for millions.

Fmr CIA Ray McGovern said he would not be surprised in the US or UK had Navalny killed in prison.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 21, 2024, 02:03:37 PM
That sounds like a large load of crap to me...one would think if Putin had evidence like that he and everybody in his government would be waiving it proudly...

Without evidence it looks like desperate knee-jerk Putin exoneration...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 21, 2024, 08:17:04 PM

I meant his right hand man was caught on camera asking for $10-20 million USD (yearly?)  from UK MI6. It was released to the pubic.I recall he said it was to pull off a color revolution but my memory is faulty

The source for the NED funding the Navalny organization was Wikileaks which was published.

Given that the US, according to Viki Nuland, pumped $5B USD into Ukraine, pumping that low an amount into NED  Russia does not seem out of place.

He is a clip of Nuland saying that from the only recent source I remember. This is Russian animation propaganda but has the clip. .
https://t.me/svinkavobmoroke/458
or
https://rumble.com/v4dha6b-ukr-piglet-30-sacral-swine-30-.html

Hearing Ray McGovern on Judge Nap speculate that the west killed Navalny in prison was the wildest thing I ever herd him say. CIA is former CIA who used to brief Reagan.
Others have noticed navalny's wife's behavior. Putin has nothing to gain by making him a martyr. He had very low approval ratings in Russia.

I think this is the McGovern video. See 10 min in.
https://youtu.be/RPYrFstT3q8
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/02/16/throwing-good-money-after-bad-in-ukraine/
Throwing Good Money After Bad in Ukraine?
February 16, 2024
Ray McGovern and Lawrence Wilkerson argue the U.S. should accept that no amount of U.S. funding will change Russia’s will and means to prevail in Ukraine.

Brian Berletic has been useful in many areas. One is in showing how the US does color revolutions, including using the NED, He has seen them used in Thailand. I think he went to some receptions until they figured out who he was.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 22, 2024, 11:48:23 AM
 I had some videos on and heard a different aspect to Navalny. It went into some details but said he was convicted for fraud involving large amounts of money. It would be nice if the news reported on news. That is their official job.

Plus his death is pretty convenient and is being used to beg for a current bill passage. also, I may have just heard a phrase about his wife's boyfriend but I was half asleep. she does seem to be very happy at the Munich conference a day later.

I heard that yer ago navalny ran for Moscow mayor and got a respectable 27 pct of vote but low turnout. Then he decreased over time to maybe 1 pct nationwide.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 22, 2024, 01:10:27 PM

his mother does a brutal smack down on ex wife.
https://t.me/putingers_cat/9001?comment=215907
or
https://t.me/myLordBebo/23524

🇷🇺??🚨 BREAKING: Navalny’s mother says:
- His wife did not see Navalny for 2 years
- She forced him to go to Russia
- She made him transfer all his property in her name
- She appears with other men in public
- Is shamelessly profiting on his death.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 22, 2024, 01:52:29 PM

I meant his right hand man was caught on camera asking for $10-20 million USD (yearly?)  from UK MI6. It was released to the pubic.I recall he said it was to pull off a color revolution but my memory is faulty

The source for the NED funding the Navalny organization was Wikileaks which was published.

Given that the US, according to Viki Nuland, pumped $5B USD into Ukraine, pumping that low an amount into NED  Russia does not seem out of place.

He is a clip of Nuland saying that from the only recent source I remember. This is Russian animation propaganda but has the clip. .
https://t.me/svinkavobmoroke/458
or
https://rumble.com/v4dha6b-ukr-piglet-30-sacral-swine-30-.html

Hearing Ray McGovern on Judge Nap speculate that the west killed Navalny in prison was the wildest thing I ever herd him say. CIA is former CIA who used to brief Reagan.
Others have noticed navalny's wife's behavior. Putin has nothing to gain by making him a martyr. He had very low approval ratings in Russia.

I think this is the McGovern video. See 10 min in.
https://youtu.be/RPYrFstT3q8
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/02/16/throwing-good-money-after-bad-in-ukraine/
Throwing Good Money After Bad in Ukraine?
February 16, 2024
Ray McGovern and Lawrence Wilkerson argue the U.S. should accept that no amount of U.S. funding will change Russia’s will and means to prevail in Ukraine.

Brian Berletic has been useful in many areas. One is in showing how the US does color revolutions, including using the NED, He has seen them used in Thailand. I think he went to some receptions until they figured out who he was.

Well, OK an "associate"...perhaps he was the CIA's patsy and perhaps Navalny trusted his man too much or was negligent in vetting where his contributions came from (not hard to do with all of the cut outs IC types do) it doesn't mean Navalny is directly guilty and at this time was Russia not a nominal global business nation?  If the CIA wanted to pop somebody maybe the patsy...and is said "right hand man" even living now...or was his job to merely frame up Navalny for Putin to act against (making Putin silly for falling for the bait)?  Too many unknowns to take Putin or anybody off the hook.  And Rus apologists have too much color revolutions on their mind...the time for that was under Yeltsin and could have been codified by him over some Stoli.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 22, 2024, 01:56:00 PM
I had some videos on and heard a different aspect to Navalny. It went into some details but said he was convicted for fraud involving large amounts of money. It would be nice if the news reported on news. That is their official job.

Plus his death is pretty convenient and is being used to beg for a current bill passage. also, I may have just heard a phrase about his wife's boyfriend but I was half asleep. she does seem to be very happy at the Munich conference a day later.

I heard that yer ago navalny ran for Moscow mayor and got a respectable 27 pct of vote but low turnout. Then he decreased over time to maybe 1 pct nationwide.

No court evidence?  Russia doesn't allow that to be seen by the public?  I mean if he was on the take for the evil US their return stunk if your vote numbers are right...which also begs the question - how much of a threat to Putin could he have been?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 22, 2024, 01:57:02 PM

his mother does a brutal smack down on ex wife.
https://t.me/putingers_cat/9001?comment=215907
or
https://t.me/myLordBebo/23524

🇷🇺??🚨 BREAKING: Navalny’s mother says:
- His wife did not see Navalny for 2 years
- She forced him to go to Russia
- She made him transfer all his property in her name
- She appears with other men in public
- Is shamelessly profiting on his death.

Whore who will do anyting for money?  Hey, Nikki has a friend!   ::rimshot::   ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 22, 2024, 02:33:19 PM

At least the 'news' could report on what he was charged with.
At the very least the associate meeting with MI6 would put Nalvany under surveillance.
Also stop making his wife a widow saint.
The post from the mother is kinda sad.
The Navalny death IS being used to press for more spending. It helps the west and hurts Putin. That may be partly why Ray McGovern thought the west did it and how easy it would be. Plus I heard that Navalny's lawyer gave him recent medicine? 2 days before? My memory is not perfect but the timing seems too convenient.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 22, 2024, 03:21:20 PM
You are talking helping raise funds from Congress here?  I've heard nobody pimp that idea, though the ones who would (dems/cucks) I would dismiss anyway...their actions have helped Putin more than anything anybody else here has or can do!  Sanctions!  Killing your own energy independence!  Hurting your own currency!  Bankrupting your nation!  Putin himself favors FJB over Trump because he is more "predictable"...yes, to do that worst think for us and best thing for Russia!  Is the CIA looking to help Russia and hurt us?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 22, 2024, 04:21:01 PM
You are talking helping raise funds from Congress here?  I've heard nobody pimp that idea, though the ones who would (dems/cucks) I would dismiss anyway...their actions have helped Putin more than anything anybody else here has or can do!  Sanctions!  Killing your own energy independence!  Hurting your own currency!  Bankrupting your nation!  Putin himself favors FJB over Trump because he is more "predictable"...yes, to do that worst think for us and best thing for Russia!  Is the CIA looking to help Russia and hurt us?

???
I just meant that I saw that pressure being put on the US Congress citing Vavalny.

Also here is a link to the UK MI6 video
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/47611
It’s never good to be caught on camera attempting a coup in your country with a foreign intel service.

In this video, Navalny's top aide Vladimir Ashurkov is asking MI6 Officer James William Thomas Ford for $10-20 Million a year to start a color revolution in Russia.

This is one of the reasons why Navalny was arrested. And has major implications especially in light of the CIA and MI6 sabotaging the Trump administration.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 22, 2024, 04:23:54 PM

Here is the old navalny campaign ad. Comparing Muslims to cockroaches then shooting a cockroach.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/47618
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 23, 2024, 07:59:01 AM
You are talking helping raise funds from Congress here?  I've heard nobody pimp that idea, though the ones who would (dems/cucks) I would dismiss anyway...their actions have helped Putin more than anything anybody else here has or can do!  Sanctions!  Killing your own energy independence!  Hurting your own currency!  Bankrupting your nation!  Putin himself favors FJB over Trump because he is more "predictable"...yes, to do that worst think for us and best thing for Russia!  Is the CIA looking to help Russia and hurt us?

???
I just meant that I saw that pressure being put on the US Congress citing Vavalny.

Also here is a link to the UK MI6 video
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/47611
It’s never good to be caught on camera attempting a coup in your country with a foreign intel service.

In this video, Navalny's top aide Vladimir Ashurkov is asking MI6 Officer James William Thomas Ford for $10-20 Million a year to start a color revolution in Russia.

This is one of the reasons why Navalny was arrested. And has major implications especially in light of the CIA and MI6 sabotaging the Trump administration.

Telegram doesn't work for me...almost always.  Anyway, if what you say is accurate that makes Ashurkov a suspect for trial, not Navalny...unless the former implicated the latter, but I do not recall his trials or if this Ashurkov character testified or was cross-examined...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 23, 2024, 08:00:22 AM

Here is the old navalny campaign ad. Comparing Muslims to cockroaches then shooting a cockroach.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/47618

Another link that doesn't work for me.

Anyway...is that a bad thing?   ::whatgives::
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 23, 2024, 09:15:02 AM
Well, isn't this entertaining?!

Russian authorities have said that the opposition activist Aleksei Navalny died of natural causes while in prison in a far northern Arctic penal colony. It comes nearly a full week after Russian prison services announced he died on Feb.16.

There's now a public fight over his body, and the question of a funeral service, as his family and legal team have complained they are being denied access to the deceased. Condemnations have come in from various Western countries, and have pointed at the Putin government, ultimately blaming the Kremlin for his death while in custody. This has included US and European officials.

Navalny's mother, Lyudmila Navalnaya, has newly accused Russian officials of seeking to pressure her into accepting a secret burial, presumably to prevent it from becoming a major televised memorial event.

"Looking me in the eyes, they say that if I don't agree to a secret funeral, they will do something with my son's body," she said in a video posted to Navalny's widow's social media account.

"According to the law, they should have given me Alexei's body immediately," she said. "Instead, they are blackmailing me, and telling me where, when and how Alexei should be buried." She has reportedly filed a lawsuit for immediate release to her custody of his body.

Navalny's legal team has seen a death report saying his death was "natural" - however, few other specifics has been made public.

Meanwhile, Western press has already hailed that his wife Yulia is carrying on the work of team Navalny and will lead the political "opposition" against Putin. Name recognition inside Russia is a whole different question...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-says-navalny-died-natural-causes-western-msm-anoints-widow-newest-opposition (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-says-navalny-died-natural-causes-western-msm-anoints-widow-newest-opposition)

I predict the most dedicated Russophiles and Putin idolizers will glom on the MFM championing Yulia as opposition heir...but really, that only works if a) an independent autopsy is allowed and the cause of death is as the government says and b) the allegations of harassing the widow into signing off on a quick quiet burial are a fraud...sans that evidence the position of the government is suspect.  Also, if the government just chooses on its own to cremate Navalny's remains it will look magnitudes worse.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 25, 2024, 08:20:52 PM
Some other intel guy speculated that UK killed Navalny.
Some Berlin blood work years ago  indicated he was not a well man.
His lawyer visited him 2 days before death.

Former CIA Ray Mcgovern said Obama did not want to send lethal weapons to Ukr because it might make them think they could win against Russia. Merkle said it would be a terrible idea in public.

In 2015 someone said/wrote that if war in Ukr that played to Russian strength. Anything we gave to Ukr would be matched, then doubled, then tripled, then quadrupled by Russia. Who? Then deputy US SOS Blinken.

Former US ambassador Burns wrote his famous (leaked) memo saying that inviting Ukr into NATO was a red line and would likely provoke Russia to war. In 2008? Later as CIA director he said the RU invasion was unprovoked.


https://t.me/kalibratedchat/320115
🇷🇺🇺🇦 JUST IN: The head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine, Kyrylo Budanov, said that, according to Ukrainian intelligence, Alexey Navalny actually died due to a blood clot.

🐻 You don't say... We thought Putin killed him, that's what Western Media has been SCREAMING for the past week.

Could it be possible that a certain US based pharmaceutical company killed Navalny? 🤷???

A link to the McGovern video. He gives a summary of recent history leading up to SMO. I knew it all  before.
https://youtu.be/XcIHchh7Bac
 Ex-CIA: US Pentagon TERRIFIED Over New Russia Strike Plan On Ukraine
Stephen Gardner


[They shopped the piece below around to major media for 10 days and no one would touch it so they posted it below]
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/02/16/throwing-good-money-after-bad-in-ukraine/
Throwing Good Money After Bad in Ukraine?
February 16, 2024
Ray McGovern and Lawrence Wilkerson argue the U.S. should accept that no amount of U.S. funding will change Russia’s will and means to prevail in Ukraine.
...

Ray McGovern and Lawrence Wilkerson argue the U.S. should accept that no amount of U.S. funding will change Russia’s will and means to prevail in Ukraine.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 26, 2024, 08:36:27 AM
I thought the only jab possible in Russia was Sputnik?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 26, 2024, 10:33:12 AM
I thought the only jab possible in Russia was Sputnik?

maybe the commenter did not know that.
Is sputnik a conventional vaccine?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 26, 2024, 11:08:01 AM


Judge NAP has good guests. Here he has Larry Johnson fmr CIA.

I have noticed a change in some western reporting lately.

https://youtu.be/Acwrv4KIblc
I hope this link works. The title looks different.

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 26, 2024, 12:32:22 PM
I thought the only jab possible in Russia was Sputnik?

maybe the commenter did not know that.
Is sputnik a conventional vaccine?

It was the Russian vax for Covid, thought it was mRNA based too...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on March 05, 2024, 01:07:03 PM


Ice house fishing in siberia.
https://t.me/RWApodcast/793
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on March 17, 2024, 12:55:40 PM

Kinda cute video clip
https://t.me/ForeignAgentIntel/9785
A family of nomads from the Yamal-Nenets Autonomous Okrug traveled 150 km on a snowmobile to vote in the Russian presidential elections.

Andrei Khudi, his wife and two children live in chum tent in the tundra; during the period of early voting, a helicopter flies to them and brings them ballots. According to him, this year the helicopter did not have time to fly to the Nadym district, where they were staying. So family decided to go there themselves. They set out on a snowmobile early in the morning and in an hour and a half drove to the site in the village of Yar-Sale in time for its opening.

“It is imperative to elect a president, because the quality of our lives depends on it,”-said Andrei Khudi’s wife.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on March 17, 2024, 12:59:17 PM


https://t.me/putingers_cat/9375
Russians being forced to vote...

Brutal and inhumane!...

Show this to every Westerner you know to highlight the terrible oppressive regime in Russia!...

This is Milan, Italy, by the way.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on March 17, 2024, 03:48:54 PM

I saw some election results for DPR. 95 pct Putin, around 1.5 pct each for liberal party, nationalist party, and communist party.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on March 18, 2024, 08:48:42 AM
Putin Wins Transparent Russian Reelection, Biden Calls it a Dictatorship – Zelensky Cancels Ukraine Elections, Biden Calls it a Democracy
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/03/18/putin-wins-transparent-russian-reelection-biden-calls-it-a-dictatorship-zelensky-cancels-ukraine-elections-biden-calls-it-a-democracy/ (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/03/18/putin-wins-transparent-russian-reelection-biden-calls-it-a-dictatorship-zelensky-cancels-ukraine-elections-biden-calls-it-a-democracy/)

I have issues with Putin, I have concerns with the lack of opposition party viability...but I have no illusions of the Russian psyche either...and no matter how you cut it that headline should make Americans go "Uhh, WTF?!".

More good news for Russia and those wanting to see the Mahdi Death Cult expand nuclear capacity - the military junta in Niger -

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/niger-severs-ties-us-military-after-alarm-raised-junta-will-supply-uranium-iran (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/niger-severs-ties-us-military-after-alarm-raised-junta-will-supply-uranium-iran)

Mmm, yellowcake...yum.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on March 22, 2024, 03:33:17 PM


This sub reddit is interesting. Seems honest..
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskARussian/comments/1bemq10/comment/kw0kmw5/?context=3 (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskARussian/comments/1bemq10/comment/kw0kmw5/?context=3)
121 comments
Hi, I just want to ask, given that Muslim peoples have always lived in what is now Russia for generations, is it true that Russians are much more friendly to Muslims compared to Western Europe (where Muslim presence is more recent due to immigration) or India under current Prime Minister Narendra Modi?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on March 27, 2024, 11:52:52 AM


https://t.me/myLordBebo/26426
🇷🇺🇬🇧🚨?? BBC Torched By RT's Editor-In-Chief: 'We Don't Like You Much Really'

Nobody likes Rosenberg ..
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on March 27, 2024, 11:58:33 AM
Russian state media hates a BBC clown...

No?!

/
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on March 27, 2024, 02:01:17 PM

Is this true?

https://t.me/ukraine_watch/19435
Russia is the second most-read country in the world, Putin said:

"Today, Russia ranks second in the world in terms of the amount of time its citizens spend reading. China is in first place and Spain is in third".
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on April 08, 2024, 03:06:18 PM

VERY INTERESTING
Sachs describes a book he read.
https://www.amazon.com/Genesis-Russophobia-Britain-Historical-Hardcover/dp/0674281098/ (https://www.amazon.com/Genesis-Russophobia-Britain-Historical-Hardcover/dp/0674281098/)

RU and Britain were on the same side in the Napoleonic wars. What happened? NOTHING RU did.
Britain had an empire and was threatened by the very existence of another large country.
So they generated fear of RU including fear of Russia invading India.


https://youtu.be/TAbi_2mbVKM?t=2943 (https://youtu.be/TAbi_2mbVKM?t=2943)   49 min
1992 We won, they lost, so we can do anything we want. We do not have to honor any agreements.

https://youtu.be/TAbi_2mbVKM?t=3015 (https://youtu.be/TAbi_2mbVKM?t=3015) 50 min
Russo phobia goes back to 1840s.



Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on April 09, 2024, 08:07:37 AM
Well, Russophobia like any phobia cannot exist in a vacuum...so, logically there is also Anglophobia, Ameriphobia, Europhobia...

Or it is all just a BS crutch used by small minded fools...

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on April 15, 2024, 12:41:47 PM

I am part way into a book on Russophobia.
https://www.amazon.com/Creating-Russophobia-Religious-Anti-Putin-Hysteria/dp/0997896523 (https://www.amazon.com/Creating-Russophobia-Religious-Anti-Putin-Hysteria/dp/0997896523)
He starts off going into lots of examples where there is a massive double standard in recent history and reporting where Russia is concerned. Many examples. Western reporting on the Sochi Olympics is an embarrassing hatchet job. Too many examples to repeat.

The local mayor said there were no gay activists in Sochi. So the MSM left off the last word to quote he said there were no gays. Then they removed his interview with the manager of a local gay bar. Over and over.

he includes lots of reporting on the Beslan school massacre. Almost zero empathy just bashing Russians.

The next part deals with history and the schism. The split got worse starting 1054. The byzantine church and court was very civilized when the west was fairly barbaric. Western royals went there in search of marriage partners.There were later attempts by the western churches to re-unify the Orthodox by force. Invasion from the west and through the baltics.

The Russians were characterized as expansionist and barbaric when the west was colonizing the world. One reason given aside from religion is that they look like us but they are not us so something is wrong with them. The orthodox did not send out missionaries.

The Mongols were invading from the east so the Swedes picked that time to invade I did not know that about the battle on the ice.
https://youtu.be/IcPixaWL2Pg?t=346. (https://youtu.be/IcPixaWL2Pg?t=346.)




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Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on April 15, 2024, 01:44:37 PM
Poor Russians...

Picked on like no other, uhh...

/
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on April 15, 2024, 05:07:45 PM

No. It turns out that Russia as the bogey man goes back long before the SMO. I am just learning about.

I have not gotten that far in the book yet. On YT I heard that it goes back in UK to around 1840. UK liked RU help in beating Napoleon but then decided there was only room for one empire on the planet. So they started making stuff up not based on RU actions.
E.g. RU had plans to invade and conquer India. Also, Poland and others created a fake will/testament for Peter the Great having his plans to conquer Europe or some such.

I heard that US tranny who was the official eng language spokesperson for Ukr govt say that Russians are mongols while Ukr are European and Russians are a slave race that need to be led. I just got to that part in the book. That is hundreds of years old in the west. Another is that the RU czars are despots needed to control the RU but also they re a meek slave race and easy to lead.

China and Japan have both gone to war with RU and border them  but they do not share the European stereotypes. That is weird.
It just seems that the Russia hatred is way beyond reasonable I so I wanted the history.

Some guy wrote a 1950 Harvard PhD on Russo-phobia apparently turned into a 1962 book. I have a request for inter library loan for that.

https://www.amazon.com/Genesis-Russophobia-Britain-Historical-Hardcover/dp/0674281098 (https://www.amazon.com/Genesis-Russophobia-Britain-Historical-Hardcover/dp/0674281098)
The Genesis of Russophobia in Great Britain Hardcover – February 5, 1950
by John Howes Gleason (Author)

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on April 15, 2024, 06:50:31 PM
from amazon


Quote
Whence, then, the rabid Russophobia that characterised British public discourse after WWII? He debunks the notion that the British Russophobia originates in the inter-imperial rivalry (there was no severe clash of imperial interests, the “Great Game” legend notwithstanding). According to Professor Gleason, a good part of it was due to internal ideological and political polemics, fueled both by journalistic demagogues and representatives of some limitrophe states such as Poland. It is fascinating to compare the anti-Russian political and media campaign of that time with what goes on right now in the US, for example.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on April 16, 2024, 08:15:07 AM
And yet the Brits were penetrated first by the Russian Communist contagion...so some went from so-called "haters" to "traitors" pretty damn easy...

And now days I see the long-suffering Russian psyche exploiting weaker minds to feel sorry for them as an avenue to convert them into Russophiles...

Yes, Russia is so superior to all other nations on the face of this Earth they cannot fend off the people begging to belong to it...

So tired of the word "hate" being bandied about casually...

Ask German Jews what hate really is...ask those shipped off to Siberia or shot in the woods or the basement of the Lubyanka under Stalin what hate is...ask the victims of Pol Pot what hate is...the victims of North Korean Un reign of terror...etc etc...

Poor fricken Russians?

Pah!

 ::)
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on May 07, 2024, 12:18:55 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/05/together-we-will-win-vladimir-putin-is-inaugurated/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/05/together-we-will-win-vladimir-putin-is-inaugurated/)

Easy when there is no opposition...something totalitarians here want to replicate.  SSDD everywhere.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on May 13, 2024, 08:48:06 AM
Wow, big shake ups in military/security roles...

Russian state media is confirming a huge breaking development that President Putin has removed his longtime Defense Minister and personal friend Sergei Shoigu as defense chief, who has overseen the Ukraine war since its beginning in Feb. 2022. He will now serve as head of the nation's security council.

"Sergei Shoigu is likely to lose the post of Minister of Defense of Russia to acting First Deputy Prime Minister Andrei Belousov," English-language RT is reporting. "His candidacy was proposed by President Vladimir Putin, the Federation Council announced on Sunday."

Putin has also reportedly dismissed Secretary of the Security Council Nikolai Patrushev, according to Interfax.

This appears in order to shuffle Shoigu into that position. Putin has now appointed Shoigu as new Secretary of the Russian Security Council. Likely Patrushev is also being moved to another position too.

The proposed candidate for new defense chief, Belousov, has a background in Russia's central bank and economics and finance...


Below is some background on Belousov and his last two decades of government experience, though specific military decision-making or army experience on a strategic level appears to be absent, interestingly:

2000?2006: General Director, Centre for Macroeconomic Analysis and Short-Term Forecasting.

2000?2006: External adviser to the Prime Minister of the Russian Federation.

2006?2008: Deputy Minister of Economic Development and Trade, Deputy Minister of Economic Development.

2008?2012: Director, Government Department of Economy and Finance.

2012?2013: Minister of Economic Development of the Russian Federation.

2013?2020: Presidential Aide.

21 January 2020: First Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, appointed by executive order of the President of Russia.

Putin spokesman Dmitry Peskov addressed this lack of military experience as follows in a late Sunday press briefing:

Explaining Shoigu's replacement with a non-military official, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said it was "natural" for Putin to decide that a civilian official to head the Defense Ministry.

"The Defense Ministry must be absolutely open to innovation, to introduce advanced ideas and to create conditions for economic competitiveness — that’s why the president chose the candidacy of Andrei Removich Belousov," Peskov told reporters.

According to more details of Putin's big reshuffling via RT:

Senators are scheduled to engage in consultations regarding the nominees put forth by the president during committee sessions on May 13 and during a Federation Council meeting on May 14, as announced by the upper house of the Russian parliament.

No further alterations have been made to the roster of candidates Putin has submitted for cabinet positions. His nominations include Vladimir Kolokoltsev for the position of interior minister, Alexander Kurenkov for minister of emergency situations, Sergey Lavrov for foreign minister, and Konstantin Chuichenko for justice minister.

Denis Manturov, who served as deputy prime minister and head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade during Putin’s last term in office, has been nominated for the position of first deputy prime minister.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-unveils-dramatic-reshuffling-closest-advisors-shoigu-out-defense-minister (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-unveils-dramatic-reshuffling-closest-advisors-shoigu-out-defense-minister)

Looks like to me the hothead Patrushev is being solidly demoted and Shoigu gets a face-saving post.  And a novice at Defense to me indicates he'll be doing whatever Putin wants him to do.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on May 13, 2024, 01:14:44 PM

India set to oversee Chabahar Port operations under new decade-long Iran agreement: media

👉 Chabahar Port holds strategic importance for India:

?? It serves as a crucial link to connect with Afghanistan, Central Asia, and the broader Eurasian region;

?? Plans are underway to integrate Chabahar Port with the International North South Transport Corridor (INSTC), facilitating trade between India, Russia, and other countries via Iran;

?? This will enable India to bypass Pakistan and establish direct access to Afghanistan and, ultimately, Central Asia.

?? The main advantage of this corridor is the reduction of delivery times by two to three times;

?? The development of the port is viewed as a significant geopolitical step towards enhancing cooperation with Iran.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on May 14, 2024, 07:48:49 AM
Nobody will be trading with the Mahdi Death Cult...not when they're a smoldering heap of ash and ruin...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on May 14, 2024, 08:03:10 AM
Back on the high-level shake up...

I don't even think the idiots spewing this gibberish about desperation even believe their own BS...and on the cost side of things they are only half right and the casualties side outright silly...

I see this all as an efficiency move...Shoigu stays close and saves face...new guy at Defense seems to be a good administrator who seems to get along with other officials, anything strategic he is going to rely on his general staff and all will do as Putin decides anyway...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-says-putins-dramatic-cabinet-reshuffle-smacks-desperation (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-says-putins-dramatic-cabinet-reshuffle-smacks-desperation)

Dolts in this corrupt compromised FJB regime and the halls of EuroStan are blowing smoke as usual.

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on May 14, 2024, 02:13:58 PM
Back on the high-level shake up...

I don't even think the idiots spewing this gibberish about desperation even believe their own BS...and on the cost side of things they are only half right and the casualties side outright silly...

I see this all as an efficiency move...Shoigu stays close and saves face...new guy at Defense seems to be a good administrator who seems to get along with other officials, anything strategic he is going to rely on his general staff and all will do as Putin decides anyway...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-says-putins-dramatic-cabinet-reshuffle-smacks-desperation (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-says-putins-dramatic-cabinet-reshuffle-smacks-desperation)

Dolts in this corrupt compromised FJB regime and the halls of EuroStan are blowing smoke as usual.

I think Shoigu was never a warrior but a MIC admin guy who stayed close to factories. His new job is pretty good with added responsibilities.. The new guy is even better at admin.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on May 15, 2024, 11:03:15 AM

This IS how Russian cursive looks.

https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1790291190341902837
ChatGTP can’t read Russian cursive.

Here you go, want to be AI safe write in Russia !
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on May 20, 2024, 09:52:10 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/analyzing-strategic-importance-russias-reportedly-planned-afghan-oil-hub (https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/analyzing-strategic-importance-russias-reportedly-planned-afghan-oil-hub)

NO war for oil!

Oh wait, that's retards in the West...which ironically citizens of which never got the benefit of one drop...

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on May 28, 2024, 06:10:53 PM
I saw some video on a  conference on how to take Russia apart. Maybe many years ago and from a US think tank or the DOD.
I did not save a link. I was surprised that such things would be out in the open. There is a reason Russia does not trust the US or NATO.

Now this came up. A map. Map at 1:00:14
From state dept webside?
https://youtu.be/FJVYEl87W5M?t=3535
NATO ‘Poking the Bear’ Risks War w/Russia - Col. Jacques Baud

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on May 29, 2024, 08:12:20 AM
Well, pretty sure they and China et al have a plan to take others apart too...

And they are also not immune from incendiary rhetoric...

And no I don't care who started it first because that is a no-win game for anybody...

ETA - Other Russia news, some related to aforementioned rhetoric -

Is Russia Preparing To Strategically Partner With The Taliban?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-preparing-strategically-partner-taliban (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-preparing-strategically-partner-taliban)

Are they holding hands with the Mahdi Death Cultists in Iran?

Yes.

What's one more Satanic outfit?

Be interesting to see if they ever interact with the Rus directly...seeing as they hate each other.

Have fun!   ::effu::   ::hysterical::

The rhetoric - They... "should be aware of what they are playing with" as they had small land areas and dense populations."
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-threatens-wests-dense-populations-small-land-masses-response-nato-escalation (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-threatens-wests-dense-populations-small-land-masses-response-nato-escalation)

Nuke-friendly nations, good to know.

 ::)
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on May 29, 2024, 11:37:28 AM

I do not follow the Taliban, ISIS, or AQ.
I became aware in Syria that the US was directly or indirectly arming and funding ISIS and AQ.
There is the famous John Kerry quote on tape noting with approval that iSIS was advancing on Damascus.
Another quote maybe Clinton, said that AQ was on our side now.
In Syria, some US Gen flew in to meet with some jihadi group. he told them their name sounded to radical so he renamed them the Free Syrian Army.

I heard that the the Taliban, in their time out of power, attended western universities and became cosmopolitan..

I also believe that ISIS has become an arm of the US govt as they now never attack US or US allies..

In the book Soldiers of God, Robert d Kaplan embedded with the Taliban against the Soviets. Brave man.

I think China just wants to make money and Russia wants to not get invaded or  messed with. I recall China is the leading trading power of most of South America.

I do not think that Russia or china want to 'decolonize'  the US.

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on May 29, 2024, 01:02:02 PM

I do not follow the Taliban, ISIS, or AQ.
I became aware in Syria that the US was directly or indirectly arming and funding ISIS and AQ.
There is the famous John Kerry quote on tape noting with approval that iSIS was advancing on Damascus.
Another quote maybe Clinton, said that AQ was on our side now.
In Syria, some US Gen flew in to meet with some jihadi group. he told them their name sounded to radical so he renamed them the Free Syrian Army.

I heard that the the Taliban, in their time out of power, attended western universities and became cosmopolitan..

I also believe that ISIS has become an arm of the US govt as they now never attack US or US allies..

In the book Soldiers of God, Robert d Kaplan embedded with the Taliban against the Soviets. Brave man.

I think China just wants to make money and Russia wants to not get invaded or  messed with. I recall China is the leading trading power of most of South America.

I do not think that Russia or china want to 'decolonize'  the US.

A cosmopolitan Muslim is still a Muslim, they still believe in Sharia and are doing pretty much everything they used to so "cosmopolitan" really means nothing.

And according to Wiki (which is habitually Leftist) over the years they've attacked everybody, us, allies, everybody...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_linked_to_the_Islamic_State

The latter were empowered by the idiotic reign of error and terror of The Kenyan and his Arab Spring BS et al...and they turned on everybody and became autonomous terrorists...for control of them I have seen no proof, and their terror has impacted everybody...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on May 29, 2024, 01:30:10 PM


I did not read the ISIS lists. Sometimes random locals will claim they are members of iSIS or AQ to gain street cred.
I still think that ISIS is often used by the US. I think the Taliban went after ISIS in Afghanistan.

My point was that Taliban back then had likely never traveled far from their villages and were ignorant about the outside world. . Now they are better educated.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on May 30, 2024, 12:00:48 AM

Here is a link on decolonizing Russia. Why do it out in the open? You think Russians can't read? The US says were are no threat to Russia.
https://www.csce.gov/briefings/decolonizing-russia-a-moral-and-strategic-imperative/ (https://www.csce.gov/briefings/decolonizing-russia-a-moral-and-strategic-imperative/)

https://youtu.be/FJVYEl87W5M?t=3697 (https://youtu.be/FJVYEl87W5M?t=3697)
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on May 30, 2024, 08:26:36 AM


I did not read the ISIS lists. Sometimes random locals will claim they are members of iSIS or AQ to gain street cred.
I still think that ISIS is often used by the US. I think the Taliban went after ISIS in Afghanistan.

My point was that Taliban back then had likely never traveled far from their villages and were ignorant about the outside world. . Now they are better educated.

Evidence?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on May 30, 2024, 08:38:43 AM

Here is a link on decolonizing Russia. Why do it out in the open? You think Russians can't read? The US corrupt FJB Regime & UniParty trash says were are no threat to Russia.
https://www.csce.gov/briefings/decolonizing-russia-a-moral-and-strategic-imperative/ (https://www.csce.gov/briefings/decolonizing-russia-a-moral-and-strategic-imperative/)

https://youtu.be/FJVYEl87W5M?t=3697 (https://youtu.be/FJVYEl87W5M?t=3697)

FIFY

And...remember way back when, on several threads...I said "they (demonazis & cucks aka UniParty) will go to any lengths" to justify their narratives and retain their power and positions "even if it means plunging the world into WWIII"?  The same MFer's who want to make a martyr of Trump because they are unwilling to see their own destruction?  This is on THEM, not us or the US in the plural...this is rogue star chamber sh*t.  And I refuse to be lumped in with them, everybody should.  Does that mean I should embrace Putie?  No.  It means I am independent of both their bullsh*t.  The focus should be in overthrowing the scum in our midst without making it easy for our tormentors to point and scream traitor & Putin stooge!  Why make it easy for them?  I despise them for who they are and what they do, period.

The Founders warned against foreign entanglements...and those entanglements can be self-inflicted if one becomes too much of a fanboy/fangirl of foreign characters.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on May 30, 2024, 12:01:22 PM


I did not read the ISIS lists. Sometimes random locals will claim they are members of iSIS or AQ to gain street cred.
I still think that ISIS is often used by the US. I think the Taliban went after ISIS in Afghanistan.

My point was that Taliban back then had likely never traveled far from their villages and were ignorant about the outside world. . Now they are better educated.

Evidence?

I don't save links to everything i read. US govt tried to overthrow the Syrian govt using imported Jihadis, imported through Turkey along with arms also imported through turkey. I recall that AQ was directly armed and ISIS indirectly armed.by US. John Kerry noted on audio tape, with approval, that iSIS was closing in on Damascus.

Locals in Syria n reported that ISIS were mostly foreigners who hated the locals. US support for the Jihadis went from conspiracy theory, to only arming 'moderate rebels' to CIA complaints that 1 dollar of 13 of their budget went to Syria.

Gen Wesley Clark famously reported that a friend at pentagon told him that the US planned 7 regime changes in 5 years. How to think they were to do that? Not with US troops. US hires proxy crazies like ISIS.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on May 30, 2024, 12:43:18 PM


I did not read the ISIS lists. Sometimes random locals will claim they are members of iSIS or AQ to gain street cred.
I still think that ISIS is often used by the US. I think the Taliban went after ISIS in Afghanistan.

My point was that Taliban back then had likely never traveled far from their villages and were ignorant about the outside world. . Now they are better educated.

Evidence?

I don't save links to everything i read. US govt tried to overthrow the Syrian govt using imported Jihadis, imported through Turkey along with arms also imported through turkey. I recall that AQ was directly armed and ISIS indirectly armed.by US. John Kerry noted on audio tape, with approval, that iSIS was closing in on Damascus.

Locals in Syria n reported that ISIS were mostly foreigners who hated the locals. US support for the Jihadis went from conspiracy theory, to only arming 'moderate rebels' to CIA complaints that 1 dollar of 13 of their budget went to Syria.

Gen Wesley Clark famously reported that a friend at pentagon told him that the US planned 7 regime changes in 5 years. How to think they were to do that? Not with US troops. US hires proxy crazies like ISIS.

Well links help, gives me something to analyze and research.  As for Kerry, he is a Leftist and a boob, it's 50-50 if he talked out his ass or let something slip...frankly his track record largely tilts to the former.  And Clark, also a Leftist with a huge ego is about as reliable...and whose regimes was he talking about?  Frankly, if in third world hell holes I could care less, though I would not even bother...let others have the headaches I say.

As for Syria it was Christian since the time of St. Paul until a series of Islamic invaders conquered it starting with Muhammad...and interesting note, by Saladin, who was Kurdish.  And in modern times Hafez al-Assad overthrew the Baathist government he was part of and later became President and dictator of nationalist socialist (that would be akin to Nazism) philosophy...what he called a hybrid of Leninism and Gaullist constitutionalism (but chose the nationalist socialist description)...which is ironic since Bashar praised Putin's invasion of Ukraine to "de-nazify" the country...and both he and his father never stopped embracing Russia and buying their arms.  Kinda hard for me to care what the hell happens to that country.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on May 30, 2024, 02:08:51 PM

A Kerry link while he was US SOS. As SOS he knew what the US was up to.  ISIL had US weapons for sure.

https://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-crisis/2017/01/07/us-watched-daesh-gaining-power-kerry-admits-in-leaked-audio (https://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-crisis/2017/01/07/us-watched-daesh-gaining-power-kerry-admits-in-leaked-audio)

Here is the Wesley Clark link
https://youtu.be/jWxKn-1S8ts (https://youtu.be/jWxKn-1S8ts)
General Wesley Clark - "We're Going to Take Out 7 Countries in 5 Years"
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on May 31, 2024, 08:02:13 AM

A Kerry link while he was US SOS. As SOS he knew what the US was up to.  ISIL had US weapons for sure.

https://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-crisis/2017/01/07/us-watched-daesh-gaining-power-kerry-admits-in-leaked-audio (https://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-crisis/2017/01/07/us-watched-daesh-gaining-power-kerry-admits-in-leaked-audio)

Here is the Wesley Clark link
https://youtu.be/jWxKn-1S8ts (https://youtu.be/jWxKn-1S8ts)
General Wesley Clark - "We're Going to Take Out 7 Countries in 5 Years"

Well, nothing Kerry said there said "support Daesh" directly or indirectly...did he hope they would topple the national socialist dictatorship of Assad, sure, lots of people probably did and I wouldn't have given a frack either...but Hitlery and her gross negligence in the Benghazi Affair and her boss were looking to use nefarious folks to funnel weapons to Syria...but who ends up getting them in the end is a crapshoot when you deal with scumbags...just look at the "aid" to Gaza!  And obviously any ploy in Syria using proxies failed miserably...otherwise we would never have had to enter it via Northern Iraq.  Should have let the silly Russians deal with the whole mess.

As for Clark that clip just reinforces my opinion he is a gigantic egomaniac strutting around like he is the most beautiful and wise peacock in the universe...

Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan & Iran.

Uhh huh.  OK, Iran hated us once we went into Iraq?  BS, they hated us from the start of their Mahdi Death Cult reign of terror.  Talking with Iran?  Like The Kenyan's appeasement, that's fracking insane.  He's a Code Pink Leftist...who now is out of touch with that crowd because these are the idiots under The Kenyan & FJB that are hardcore interventionists because of the moronic bleating of "democracy" which is code word for "retain our political power".

Clark is such an old fool...  He must be in Hell not being able to bloviate for mush heads any more...



Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on May 31, 2024, 10:56:10 AM

A Kerry link while he was US SOS. As SOS he knew what the US was up to.  ISIL had US weapons for sure.

https://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-crisis/2017/01/07/us-watched-daesh-gaining-power-kerry-admits-in-leaked-audio (https://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-crisis/2017/01/07/us-watched-daesh-gaining-power-kerry-admits-in-leaked-audio)

Here is the Wesley Clark link
https://youtu.be/jWxKn-1S8ts (https://youtu.be/jWxKn-1S8ts)
General Wesley Clark - "We're Going to Take Out 7 Countries in 5 Years"

Well, nothing Kerry said there said "support Daesh" directly or indirectly...did he hope they would topple the national socialist dictatorship of Assad, sure, lots of people probably did and I wouldn't have given a frack either...but Hitlery and her gross negligence in the Benghazi Affair and her boss were looking to use nefarious folks to funnel weapons to Syria...but who ends up getting them in the end is a crapshoot when you deal with scumbags...just look at the "aid" to Gaza!  And obviously any ploy in Syria using proxies failed miserably...otherwise we would never have had to enter it via Northern Iraq.  Should have let the silly Russians deal with the whole mess.

As for Clark that clip just reinforces my opinion he is a gigantic egomaniac strutting around like he is the most beautiful and wise peacock in the universe...

Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan & Iran.

Uhh huh.  OK, Iran hated us once we went into Iraq?  BS, they hated us from the start of their Mahdi Death Cult reign of terror.  Talking with Iran?  Like The Kenyan's appeasement, that's fracking insane.  He's a Code Pink Leftist...who now is out of touch with that crowd because these are the idiots under The Kenyan & FJB that are hardcore interventionists because of the moronic bleating of "democracy" which is code word for "retain our political power".

Clark is such an old fool...  He must be in Hell not being able to bloviate for mush heads any more...

Gen Clark just said what he heard from an old friend at the Pentagon. Was he being truthful or not? That was shortly after 9/11. Goals changed in the time since then.

Someone from CIA said that 1 dollar of 13 of CIA's budget went to Syria. Someone was paying for all the Jihadis in Syria. Who?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on May 31, 2024, 12:35:48 PM

A Kerry link while he was US SOS. As SOS he knew what the US was up to.  ISIL had US weapons for sure.

https://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-crisis/2017/01/07/us-watched-daesh-gaining-power-kerry-admits-in-leaked-audio (https://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-crisis/2017/01/07/us-watched-daesh-gaining-power-kerry-admits-in-leaked-audio)

Here is the Wesley Clark link
https://youtu.be/jWxKn-1S8ts (https://youtu.be/jWxKn-1S8ts)
General Wesley Clark - "We're Going to Take Out 7 Countries in 5 Years"

Well, nothing Kerry said there said "support Daesh" directly or indirectly...did he hope they would topple the national socialist dictatorship of Assad, sure, lots of people probably did and I wouldn't have given a frack either...but Hitlery and her gross negligence in the Benghazi Affair and her boss were looking to use nefarious folks to funnel weapons to Syria...but who ends up getting them in the end is a crapshoot when you deal with scumbags...just look at the "aid" to Gaza!  And obviously any ploy in Syria using proxies failed miserably...otherwise we would never have had to enter it via Northern Iraq.  Should have let the silly Russians deal with the whole mess.

As for Clark that clip just reinforces my opinion he is a gigantic egomaniac strutting around like he is the most beautiful and wise peacock in the universe...

Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan & Iran.

Uhh huh.  OK, Iran hated us once we went into Iraq?  BS, they hated us from the start of their Mahdi Death Cult reign of terror.  Talking with Iran?  Like The Kenyan's appeasement, that's fracking insane.  He's a Code Pink Leftist...who now is out of touch with that crowd because these are the idiots under The Kenyan & FJB that are hardcore interventionists because of the moronic bleating of "democracy" which is code word for "retain our political power".

Clark is such an old fool...  He must be in Hell not being able to bloviate for mush heads any more...

Gen Clark just said what he heard from an old friend at the Pentagon. Was he being truthful or not? That was shortly after 9/11. Goals changed in the time since then.

Someone from CIA said that 1 dollar of 13 of CIA's budget went to Syria. Someone was paying for all the Jihadis in Syria. Who?

Well, don't expect the MFM to investigate, if it leads to an inconvenient truth or confirms somebody else they don't GAFF...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on June 11, 2024, 04:18:09 PM
There is a subreddit  /Askarussian
Mostly boring non-political like visa questions and how to send money and travel. Some are silly questions like "I am gay. What will happen to me if I travel to Russia" from people who believe US propaganda. Russians love to troll on occasion.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskARussian/comments/1dcxmud/will_dual_citizen_receive_draft_notice/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskARussian/comments/1dcxmud/will_dual_citizen_receive_draft_notice/)
 Will dual citizen receive draft notice
Travel

Had US/russian dual citizenship as a kid to be able to visit my grandparents. Still have it as far as I know. Also renewed my passport. Not planning on going back any time soon, but out of curiosity would I have a draft notice or summons despite not being in the country since I was 12? I am 20 now btw
...


Yes, you will be drafted for sure.

Right from the airport terminal you will be sent to Chasov Yar and forced to steal washing machines and executing POWs and civilians. If you would manage to survive - you will be sent to Zauralsk-88 to work at plutonium factory till the end of your days.

And - /s

But to be honest, none of the drafting offices (voenkomat) know about your existence, and if you are permanent resident of another country - they have no mechanism to draft you.



...


Also I notice different answers from people having flags indicating Russian residence and those without. Not 100 pct consistent.

Dagath614

15h ago
Moscow City

Daily "will i get drafted" question got. Waiting on "visiting as a citizen of X" one.

Long story short: you left the country prior to 16 years old, so you probably were taken off residential registration and did not sign yourself at recruitment office. Thus the Ministry of Defense knows nothing about your existence.


Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on June 24, 2024, 11:05:34 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/death-toll-dagestan-terror-attack-rises-20-killed-russians-fear-more-come (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/death-toll-dagestan-terror-attack-rises-20-killed-russians-fear-more-come)

Jihadists.  What's the big deal?  Iran is basically run by Jihadists...where's the love, man? 
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on June 26, 2024, 04:02:38 PM


I find this strange. YT took down some channels reporting on Russia. I thought I posted from one of these here.
The Sasha channel was very sweet. Another pretty girl blogs from Russia video blog.
A recent video on YT reported that she had moved back to Russia with mom and dad months ago  and she gave her reasons. Mostly not political but quality of life for her.

She was born in Hong Kong I think to US dad and Russian mom. Later moved to US NH with parents for his work. Later went to college in US. Worked in US.

Pretty girl.
https://www.tiktok.com/@sashameetsrussia (https://www.tiktok.com/@sashameetsrussia)

She reports on getting banned.
https://www.tiktok.com/@sashameetsrussia/video/7382142498032045358 (https://www.tiktok.com/@sashameetsrussia/video/7382142498032045358)

Reddit post on the bans.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/1dp0c56/ru_pov_youtube_has_closed_two_channels_that/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/1dp0c56/ru_pov_youtube_has_closed_two_channels_that/)
Ru pov: YouTube has closed two channels that focused on the positive aspects of living in Russia.
Civilians & politicians

The other day, the channel Sasha Meets Russia was blocked, the author of which talked about her impressions of moving to Russia. Recently, Sasha, whose father is American and mother is Russian, was invited to the SPIEF along with other bloggers. In one of her videos, the girl criticized life in the United States and talked about the advantages of living in Russia, although she stressed that there is no freedom of speech either there or here.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on June 29, 2024, 12:00:55 AM

I never did a deep dive into the Ukr famine. Kotkin is said to be the leading Stalin scholar. I had heard the below summary before.
https://www.thepostil.com/of-collective-security-an-interview-with-michael-jabara-carley/ (https://www.thepostil.com/of-collective-security-an-interview-with-michael-jabara-carley/)

...
TP: Then, there is the notorious year, 1932, with its Great Famine, in which 5 to 7 million died. Was this famine “political strategy,” ethnic cleansing (Holodomor), a natural disaster, or something else?

MJC: I only deal in passing with this issue in my work because the famine did not affect foreign policy, but the best recent treatment of the famine is in the second volume of Kotkin’s biography of Stalin. Kotkin argues that the famine was the result of various factors, political, economic, weather, and insect infestations. It was not aimed at the Ukraine as a form of genocide or “ethnic cleansing.” The famine affected the entire Soviet grain belt with Kazakhstan being the hardest hit.
...


Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Syzygy on June 29, 2024, 07:54:59 AM

I never did a deep dive into the Ukr famine. Kotkin is said to be the leading Stalin scholar. I had heard the below summary before.
https://www.thepostil.com/of-collective-security-an-interview-with-michael-jabara-carley/ (https://www.thepostil.com/of-collective-security-an-interview-with-michael-jabara-carley/)

...
TP: Then, there is the notorious year, 1932, with its Great Famine, in which 5 to 7 million died. Was this famine “political strategy,” ethnic cleansing (Holodomor), a natural disaster, or something else?

MJC: I only deal in passing with this issue in my work because the famine did not affect foreign policy, but the best recent treatment of the famine is in the second volume of Kotkin’s biography of Stalin. Kotkin argues that the famine was the result of various factors, political, economic, weather, and insect infestations. It was not aimed at the Ukraine as a form of genocide or “ethnic cleansing.” The famine affected the entire Soviet grain belt with Kazakhstan being the hardest hit.
...
That horse shiite does not get Stalin off the hook.  Talking with a Ukrainian friend of mine some time ago,  he said that Stalin raided Ukraine,  taking what little food they had in order to feed his Russians.  So yes,  Stalin is directly responsible for starving millions of Ukrainians.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on June 29, 2024, 10:59:23 AM

I never did a deep dive into the Ukr famine. Kotkin is said to be the leading Stalin scholar. I had heard the below summary before.
https://www.thepostil.com/of-collective-security-an-interview-with-michael-jabara-carley/ (https://www.thepostil.com/of-collective-security-an-interview-with-michael-jabara-carley/)

...
TP: Then, there is the notorious year, 1932, with its Great Famine, in which 5 to 7 million died. Was this famine “political strategy,” ethnic cleansing (Holodomor), a natural disaster, or something else?

MJC: I only deal in passing with this issue in my work because the famine did not affect foreign policy, but the best recent treatment of the famine is in the second volume of Kotkin’s biography of Stalin. Kotkin argues that the famine was the result of various factors, political, economic, weather, and insect infestations. It was not aimed at the Ukraine as a form of genocide or “ethnic cleansing.” The famine affected the entire Soviet grain belt with Kazakhstan being the hardest hit.
...
That horse shiite does not get Stalin off the hook.  Talking with a Ukrainian friend of mine some time ago,  he said that Stalin raided Ukraine,  taking what little food they had in order to feed his Russians.  So yes,  Stalin is directly responsible for starving millions of Ukrainians.

Yup.  Stalin decided what the greater good was...and sane people call this the classic socialist practice of "picking winners and losers"...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on June 29, 2024, 02:31:50 PM

The famines were due to natural reasons (drought, insects), incompetence, and evil intentions (destroy the Kulaks). As I said, I never did a deep dive into this. My impression is that the west pushes the evil intentions as the main reasons. Historians have/had access to historical records mostly after the USSR fell. IMO they are not finding much to support the evil intentions. The USSR kept massive records on their planning of their 'scientific socialism.'

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on June 30, 2024, 04:16:55 PM

The subreddit AskaRussian is good. Here is an answer to one question.



    IN GENERAL, WHAT IS YOUR ATTITUDE TOWARDS STALIN? (respondents were presented with a card with a list of possible answers from which they could choose only one)

    Admiration: 7%

    Respect: 47%

    Affection, fondness: 9%

    Indifference: 23%

    Enmity, irritation: 4%

    Fear: 2%

    Revulsion, hatred: 2%

    I don’t know who Stalin is: 1%

    It is difficult to say/no answer: 5%
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on July 01, 2024, 12:16:20 PM

The famines were due to natural reasons (drought, insects), incompetence, and evil intentions (destroy the Kulaks). As I said, I never did a deep dive into this. My impression is that the west pushes the evil intentions as the main reasons. Historians have/had access to historical records mostly after the USSR fell. IMO they are not finding much to support the evil intentions. The USSR kept massive records on their planning of their 'scientific socialism.'

 ::facepalm::
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on July 01, 2024, 12:18:31 PM

The subreddit AskaRussian is good. Here is an answer to one question.



    IN GENERAL, WHAT IS YOUR ATTITUDE TOWARDS STALIN? (respondents were presented with a card with a list of possible answers from which they could choose only one)

    Admiration: 7%

    Respect: 47%

    Affection, fondness: 9%

    Indifference: 23%

    Enmity, irritation: 4%

    Fear: 2%

    Revulsion, hatred: 2%

    I don’t know who Stalin is: 1%

    It is difficult to say/no answer: 5%

Respect & Admiration are the majority...

 ::speechless::

Scary
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on July 01, 2024, 02:05:45 PM

When I first heard Bald and Bankrupt interviewing people in former USSR about then vs now  my first reaction was that they were nostalgic for former USSR and I knew more than they did. They lived through it and I have never even been there so my first thoughts were very stupid.

Maybe at least half of what I was taught about USSR history is crap. Same for Stalin.

 If Stalin and the communist party had not forced the rapid industrialization of the USSR Hitler would have starved most there to death as planned. IMO that skews opinions of him to more positive.


Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on July 02, 2024, 08:02:14 AM
Well, Hitler got their economy back from Weimar horsesh*t to powerhouse and his people adored him despite his bad actions too...

I'm sure the few victims overreacted and need to get over it...

/
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on July 02, 2024, 01:23:34 PM

I read a very interesting book on Germany and Hitler mostly about the 1930s and early 1940s. "Hitlerland." If you had visited Germany and even met Hitler in 1930s what would you have thought? Several mostly US and other westerners did. Mostly diplomats and journalists. Some military. They wrote down their impressions. There was no later hindsight allowed based on later learned facts.

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Syzygy on July 03, 2024, 12:36:02 PM

I read a very interesting book on Germany and Hitler mostly about the 1930s and early 1940s. "Hitlerland." If you had visited Germany and even met Hitler in 1930s what would you have thought? Several mostly US and other westerners did. Mostly diplomats and journalists. Some military. They wrote down their impressions. There was no later hindsight allowed based on later learned facts.

OK,  you have successfully resurrected the images of Stalin and Hitler to the point of their needing to be canonized for their contributions to all of mankind.  /s

Please do Mussolini or Pol Pot next. 
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on July 03, 2024, 02:34:32 PM

My impressions of Soviet history as understood in the US? Every bad thing we learned really happened but not as much or consistently or recently. I knew a Siberian exchange student who knew all about US bad treatment of blacks. Police dogs attacking blacks trying to vote. Similar thing. It did happen but not everywhere and not recently. The USSR show trials peaked in 1938 and the breadlines were long ago.

The Hitlerland book was not pro Hitler. People think they would have seen Hitler as evil back then but this  book shows how westerners actually saw him and wrote down their impressions.   People were impressed by Germany by the modern efficiency and cleanliness.  they noticed an undercurrent of creepy.

I only remember how many women saw Hitler. Shy and effeminate. They said he was a "neuter."  They doubted he could have a normal sexual relationship with a woman.

There was a cool part in the book. The US military attache in Germany wanted to see the latest warplanes. No chance of that happening ..... until Charles Lindberg showed up. The Germans loved him and showed him everything and the attache tagged along,.

The leading US book on Stalin was by some US  Prof as I recall. He is working on the third volume last i heard.


https://youtu.be/2a7CDKqWcZ0
https://youtu.be/oCkkjnpS2f8


Stephen's Website: https://history.princeton.edu/people/...
Stalin: 1878-1928 (Vol 1): https://amzn.to/3NvokpC
Stalin: 1929-1941 (Vol 2): https://amzn.to/3wIYqsT
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on July 05, 2024, 06:27:42 PM
So, there was an old Russian movie Scarlet Sails. Real cheesy. like some old Disney movie. This got turned into an annual festival celebrating recent HS graduations in St. Petersburg.

https://youtu.be/m8R7m4L-050

St. Petersburg's Scarlet Sails Festival: A Spectacular Celebration

667 views  Jun 30, 2024  #BreakingNews #StPetersburg #LatestNews
St. Petersburg celebrated the Scarlet Sails Festival, featuring a grand concert at Palace Square and the iconic appearance of a ship with scarlet sails on the Neva River. The annual event, marking school graduations, attracted hundreds of thousands of spectators with its cultural activities, spectacular fireworks, and performances by popular artists.

#ScarletSailsFestival #StPetersburg #NevaRiver #SchoolGraduations #GrandConcert #CulturalCelebratio

Here is the cheesy Russian movie. About a girl with some unrealistic dreams.
https://youtu.be/Mhz-bn1ys4Y
Based on the story by A. Grin. Longren and her daughter live as hermits in a small fishing village. An experienced sailor left the service and raises little Assol alone. One day, the old storyteller predicts Assol that the day will come when she will be taken away by a handsome prince on a ship with scarlet sails. The whole village laughs at Assol, but the time will come, and the fairy tale will become a reality.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on July 08, 2024, 08:33:36 AM
(https://coldfury.com/WRSA/WRSA-WP/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/sovietmulticult.jpg)

Yeaaaaaah....sends a tingle down my...trigger-finger!   ::rockets::


PS - Ever see a happy Russian?

(https://coldfury.com/WRSA/WRSA-WP/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/download.webp)

Ha!  Gotchya, trick question, there are no happy Russians!
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on July 26, 2024, 12:02:36 PM


A good news item on cars in Russia. This reporter must have a knack for language as he spent his whole life in Russia yet speaks English vert well. He used to work on Russian TV.

In short, after sanctions, western auto makers pulled out. Chinese makers entered and most Russian taxis are Chinese now and the drivers like them. There is a gray market for used western autos for rich people. The second biggest seller in Russia is still the Lada.
I want a Lada Niva! I am a simple man who likes simple things.

https://youtu.be/b295TjtXR68
 This is How Sanctions Changed Russia's Car Market
Real Reporter


Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on July 31, 2024, 04:08:38 PM


Eli went to Kazakhstan. I had to look it up.It is a separate country now. I will never travel  there so I like this stuff.

The main city then in the second video some falconry.
https://youtu.be/wSAqcOVw_5w
First impressions of KAZAKHSTAN : Earthquake, Soviet sauna and sincere talks with locals

https://youtu.be/n_nNwfyuHeI
What do people eat in KAZAKHSTAN?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on August 01, 2024, 08:51:10 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/wsjs-evan-gershkovich-ex-marine-paul-whelan-freed-russia-major-prisoner-swap-us (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/wsjs-evan-gershkovich-ex-marine-paul-whelan-freed-russia-major-prisoner-swap-us)

Wow, 30 for 2...

Looks like we got  ::cussing::
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on August 04, 2024, 10:02:15 PM

Kinda funny kinda true. A short video from Eli about Russia where she explains Russia
Says 90 % of their literature is about suffering the other 10 % about nature. \
At age 10 they have to read a book "Mumu" about a man who kills his dog at the orders of his cruel mistress then commits suicide.


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Oi1yjjuubME?feature=share (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Oi1yjjuubME?feature=share)

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on August 05, 2024, 08:16:25 AM
And people wonder why dark psyches gravitate towards Czars/Dictators...

 ::bus::
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on August 05, 2024, 12:33:27 PM

I have had a long interest in different cultures. I do NOT mean they are all equal or have the same outcomes.
Part from traveling in a drum corps for 6 summers long ago and realizing the US differs by region. Some late discovered books made sense of it to me. Part from taking a single anthropology course. 

That is one reason why I watch these video blogs from other countries. During ACOC I likely watched 100  from China. I trust video blogs more than the MSM. I like some Russian ones including those from the crappy villages.



Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on August 05, 2024, 05:07:33 PM
I have no idea what is on the drive.

https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1820411944651600236
🇺🇸🇷🇺 RT has published footage of the arrest of American spy Paul Whelan in Moscow.

Whelan was detained on December 28, 2018, after he received a flash drive from his Russian source in a room at the Metropol Hotel. The files contained secret information about FSB employees.

The US tried to make Whelan appear innocent and “unfairly convicted”, but footage shows one of the proofs of his guilt.

In Russia Whelan was sentenced to 16 years in prison for espionage. As part of a prisoner exchange, he was transferred to the United States.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on August 06, 2024, 08:13:01 AM
I have no idea what is on the drive.

https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1820411944651600236
🇺🇸🇷🇺 RT has published footage of the arrest of American spy Paul Whelan in Moscow.

Whelan was detained on December 28, 2018, after he received a flash drive from his Russian source in a room at the Metropol Hotel. The files contained secret information about FSB employees.

The US tried to make Whelan appear innocent and “unfairly convicted”, but footage shows one of the proofs of his guilt.

In Russia Whelan was sentenced to 16 years in prison for espionage. As part of a prisoner exchange, he was transferred to the United States.

I call total bullsh*t!  Even the dumbest fothermucking spy on the planet knows the Metropol's nefarious history and would never in a billion years agree to meet anybody there and exchange anything!

You are being deceived...this fop is no spy, zero chance, none...Russians wanted to set up an American, any American and make them a hostage, period.  Good domestic PR for maintaining the state narrative.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on August 07, 2024, 08:04:48 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russias-arctic-energy-expansion-geopolitical-and-economic-gambit (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russias-arctic-energy-expansion-geopolitical-and-economic-gambit)

Screw the UN.

There are other ways to muck with the NSR if one really wanted to.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on August 07, 2024, 02:32:18 PM
I have no idea what is on the drive.

https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1820411944651600236
🇺🇸🇷🇺 RT has published footage of the arrest of American spy Paul Whelan in Moscow.

Whelan was detained on December 28, 2018, after he received a flash drive from his Russian source in a room at the Metropol Hotel. The files contained secret information about FSB employees.

The US tried to make Whelan appear innocent and “unfairly convicted”, but footage shows one of the proofs of his guilt.

In Russia Whelan was sentenced to 16 years in prison for espionage. As part of a prisoner exchange, he was transferred to the United States.

I call total bullsh*t!  Even the dumbest fothermucking spy on the planet knows the Metropol's nefarious history and would never in a billion years agree to meet anybody there and exchange anything!

You are being deceived...this fop is no spy, zero chance, none...Russians wanted to set up an American, any American and make them a hostage, period.  Good domestic PR for maintaining the state narrative.

If your day job was being a journalist and in a potentially hostile country like Russia and someone hands you a flash drive in a public restroom .....

I couldn't give it back fast enough.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on August 07, 2024, 04:05:10 PM
I came across this cheesy Russian song and  found the original with Eng subtitles. The song is fairly recent and I think the first video is the original by the composer and writer. Cheesy and may be based on Russian fairy tales. The little girl  video is the first one I found. The girl signs songs much too old for her.

https://youtu.be/aC66yoaEwGQ
??????? ? ???? ???????? - Ballad of the Three Sons (English translation)
 original was 13 years old https://youtu.be/Gjkp0I5VD8E

Little girl sings
https://youtu.be/62BtR9UixYo
???????? ????????? "??????? ? ???? ????????"


https://stanislavs.org/yaroslava-degtyariova-and-her-amazing-performance-of-the-ballad-of-the-three-sons/




Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on August 08, 2024, 08:24:17 AM
I have no idea what is on the drive.

https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1820411944651600236
🇺🇸🇷🇺 RT has published footage of the arrest of American spy Paul Whelan in Moscow.

Whelan was detained on December 28, 2018, after he received a flash drive from his Russian source in a room at the Metropol Hotel. The files contained secret information about FSB employees.

The US tried to make Whelan appear innocent and “unfairly convicted”, but footage shows one of the proofs of his guilt.

In Russia Whelan was sentenced to 16 years in prison for espionage. As part of a prisoner exchange, he was transferred to the United States.

I call total bullsh*t!  Even the dumbest fothermucking spy on the planet knows the Metropol's nefarious history and would never in a billion years agree to meet anybody there and exchange anything!

You are being deceived...this fop is no spy, zero chance, none...Russians wanted to set up an American, any American and make them a hostage, period.  Good domestic PR for maintaining the state narrative.

If your day job was being a journalist and in a potentially hostile country like Russia and someone hands you a flash drive in a public restroom .....

I couldn't give it back fast enough.

And you think a legit spy would know that...

Spies use dead drops, third party handoffs, stuff like that...

This asshole is no spy, but possible is a naive jurno...but definitely a dumbass...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on August 08, 2024, 06:28:20 PM
...
And you think a legit spy would know that...

Spies use dead drops, third party handoffs, stuff like that...

This asshole is no spy, but possible is a naive jurno...but definitely a dumbass...

If he was a tourist I can see him being caught unawares and pocketing a handed flash drive.

IMO he was acting like a reporter in the US but he was not in the US.

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on August 10, 2024, 01:36:43 PM


I like this stuff where a non political blogger visits some country and shows what life is like.
Here Eli visits a place on the Volga River where "old believers" live. They are an old sect of the Russian orthodox church that maybe split off hundreds of years ago.

She spends most time with an old lady who says she has 16 grand children and 16 great grandchildren who live in Moscow.

https://youtu.be/iYhrOUe6oOU
 Life in a Remote OLD BELIEVERS VILLAGE | Volga region, Russia
Eli from Russia

755K subscribers

Aug 10, 2024  NIZHNY NOVGOROD OBLAST
Visiting babushka / baba Nastya in the village of Nizhegorodskaya region...

Old Believers are Eastern Orthodox Christians who maintain the ritual practices of the Russian Orthodox Church as they were before the reforms of Patriarch Nikon of Moscow.
Those who adopted new liturgical practices started to call themselves orthodox – or in Russian - pravoslavnye (which means 'those believing rightly'). People who opposed the reform and followed old practices were named ‘raskolniki’ – schismatics, later known as old ritualists or old believers. They were persecuted by the church and authorities for 2 centuries and only in 1905 the government officially allowed them to exercise their faith.



Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on August 15, 2024, 08:36:45 PM
Wow

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/watch-russian-strategic-bomber-crashes-siberia (https://www.zerohedge.com/military/watch-russian-strategic-bomber-crashes-siberia)

I am guessing nobody got out, looked pretty catestrophic and quick.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on August 15, 2024, 09:32:04 PM


I think Irkutsk was in Risk game.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on August 21, 2024, 01:31:03 PM

A brief humorous video on Russian wife.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ddu7-zTRoBg?feature=share (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ddu7-zTRoBg?feature=share)
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on August 26, 2024, 04:45:39 PM


A reddit post.
https://www.reddit.com/r/russian/comments/1ajeizm/russian_literature_in_the_nutshell/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/russian/comments/1ajeizm/russian_literature_in_the_nutshell/)
 Russian literature in the nutshell
Interesting

(https://preview.redd.it/russian-literature-in-the-nutshell-v0-boj74tvi7rgc1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=a7cbb083e06789cd9d8dc792a61c2df60b37056e)


BadWolfRU

7mo ago
Native

British novel: let's go to a party and find a wife.

German novel: let's go to the wilderness and find ourselves.

Russian novel: let's go to the depths of despair and then find out there is an even deeper level of despair we didn't know about and go there.
Small_Tank

7mo ago
~A1.5, but practically mute in RU

Russian literature takes you to the rock bottom of despair, and then hands you a pickaxe
BlackHazeRus

7mo ago
Native Speaker • georgy.design

This is f**king good LMAO 😂
JackFrost1776

7mo ago

Who knew rock bottom had a trap door 🤷🏻???
Akhevan

7mo ago
native

We thought that we hit the rock bottom, but then we heard knocking from below.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on August 27, 2024, 02:40:52 PM
Yes, Russian fatalism at its best...

Is it any wonder why authoritarian leadership flourishes?  Can't fight it...just give in and go with it...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on September 02, 2024, 03:29:57 PM


Video clip taken by French guys in Russia. Some Russian guy chased down the street or sidewalk by a bear. The guy runs into the street followed by the bear. A bus hits the brakes but skids and hits the bear. The bear appears to fake limping and the guy checks on the bear only to have the bear resume full chase of the guy.

https://t.me/putingers_cat/11614
"The most stereotypical Russian video," according to the guy commenting.

I think it needs, at the very least, a bottle of vodka, a balalayka, and the bear needs to be on ice skates for this to be THE MOST stereotypical Russian vid ever.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on September 23, 2024, 05:02:23 PM


https://t.me/putingers_cat/11890

Lithuanian entertainer Algis Ramanauskas was born in the Soviet Union in 1970.  The probability of him speaking native Russian and, quite possibly, even thinking in Russian (oh, the horror!!...) is about 100%.

Recently this wonderful man, whose wiki page doesn't even list his former Soviet citizenship and makes it seem as if the country of Lithuania has existed at least as long as he's been gracing planet Earth with his presense, made a proposal on Lithuanian TV to take away the children of those parents who watch Russian movies and listen to Russian music and shoot the parents dead.  He's not sure yet whether the children should be present at the shooting, though. That's a tough question, indeed.

So watching "Guest From the Future (https://t.me/putingers_cat/11889)", one of the best and kindest movies ever produced, which, I am sure, a young Algis watched with great interest when it first came out - just like the rest of Soviet kids - is grounds for being executed, while your children watch, according to this briliant individual.

Is this Eurointegration or not yet?

https://t.me/putingers_cat/11889
This is a song that everyone in the former USSR knows from the iconic movie “Guest from the Future” about a girl, who came to Moscow of the mid-1980s from the future.  The name of the song doesn’t translate well, as it consists of an adjective acting as an implied noun and an adverb (yeah, good luck with Russian, ya’ll).  My pick is “The Beautiful and Distant Future”.


https://youtu.be/QNH99xAWXBo
"Alice return to the Future" from "The Guest from the Future"
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on October 05, 2024, 02:11:04 PM

I find this stuff interesting.
I met a guy fro Georgia who said the same thing as Bald and Bankrupt. Younger people are taught Georgian and English while older people were taught Georgian and Russian. Eli from Russia visited Kazakhstan. Teenage boys followed her. There is only the official Kazakh language. BUT the kids said they attend either Kazakh-English schools or Kazakh-Russian schools. Eli grew up speaking Russian and Tatar bit her Tatar skills lapsed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskARussian/comments/1fw288o/is_it_true_that_young_people_of_ethnic_minorities/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskARussian/comments/1fw288o/is_it_true_that_young_people_of_ethnic_minorities/)
Is it true that young people of ethnic minorities only speak Russian?
...


The situation is different everywhere.

Generally the 'Muslim' languages are more viable, as these peoples culturally are less integrated with Russians.

    Chechnya, Tatarstan, Tuva, Udmurtia

Chechens don't like using their own language in its written form for some reason, but they widely used it in its spoken form. Often Chechens talk code-switching between Russian and Chechen.

In Tatarstan the city culture is mostly Russian-speaking, but presence of Tatar remains strong.

In Tuva it's rather the Russian language which is dying out, and the republic is predominately Tuvan-speaking.

Udmurtia is predominately Russian-speaking, and without administrative support the Udmurt language would be dead already.

...


    Afaik in Tatarstan tatar language was a compulsory school subject even for ethnic Russians for some period.

Back then, during my school years, the compulsory study of the Tatar language seemed to me a heavy burden.

Not only is the Tatar language quite difficult to learn and completely different from Russian (Indo-European and Altaic languages), but its compulsory study took away my study hours, which could have been spent on specialized disciplines.

That’s why studying it seemed even more burdensome to me because I considered the Tatar language to be useless in everyday life, utilitarianly dead...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on October 16, 2024, 06:26:41 PM

Not Russian but Georgian
US wrecked cars are sent to Georgia where mechanics fix and resell them. Not sold (directly) to Russia after the invasion but indirect likely
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crl8187l920o?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crl8187l920o?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us)

The small South Caucasus nation of Georgia has become a multi-billion dollar hub for the international used car market. The vehicles are mostly sourced from the US, and many appear to be ending up in Russia.

On the dusty outskirts of Rustavi, an industrial town 20km (12 miles) southeast of Georgia’s capital Tbilisi, is a vast area of open-air carparks.

Equivalent in size to more than 40 football pitches, it hosts thousands of vehicles up for sale.

You can find pretty much any automobile your heart desires - Mercedes, Porsches, Jaguars, Toyotas and, more recently, Teslas. They are all here.
...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on October 17, 2024, 08:52:04 AM
Better get your purchases concluded quickly!!!

https://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,17784.new.html#new
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on November 05, 2024, 09:10:50 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/military/lots-screws-netizens-take-aim-russian-stealth-jet-featured-chinese-airshow (https://www.zerohedge.com/military/lots-screws-netizens-take-aim-russian-stealth-jet-featured-chinese-airshow)

Yeah, that's not stealthy...

And screws/static display aside...for sake of argument say that issue is resolved...RAM is employed etc...it does not have a stealthy form...

Russians as always build things big and powerful because of an abundance of titanium vs stealth performance...

And don't get me going on that Chi-Com J-20...that thing is all hat no cattle...total Go Shi!
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on November 22, 2024, 11:17:19 AM


I always had a a positive view of US military tech since the gulf wars. Especially aviation especially the ability to project power using aircraft carriers, tankers. The F35s must be really good since so many countries are buying them. I wonder if they have a weakness as there are rumors.  I recall of the smart weapons going through windows in the gulf war.

But I also recall simulations and war games where US aircraft carriers in theater near China would last maybe 40 minutes.

The US spends almost 1 trillion per year on military. That is a lot.

Then I saw some video on maybe 5 Russian weapon systems. Why doesn't the US have these?
I recall hypersonics, that ICBM that can circle the south pole and hit US, the nuke powered cruise missile, the doomsday torpedo that can cause a tsunami, and maybe a new nuke sub fleet. Also the EW systems and all the S300 and S400 systems.

I wonder if the US is spending wisely.






Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on November 24, 2024, 10:53:05 AM
So this extends from  Blagoveshchensk RU on the Amur river.
https://www.enerdata.net/publications/daily-energy-news/pipechina-completes-38-bcmyear-china-russia-east-route-gas-pipeline.html (https://www.enerdata.net/publications/daily-energy-news/pipechina-completes-38-bcmyear-china-russia-east-route-gas-pipeline.html)

China's National Oil and Gas Pipeline Network Group (PipeChina) has announced the completion of the 38 bcm/year China-Russia east-route natural gas pipeline, and that the pipeline has now entered its final commissioning phase. The east-route pipeline spans 5,111 km, including 3,371 km of newly built sections.

The Chinese section starts in Heihe, Heilongjiang Province, on the border with Russia, and extends southward through 9 provinces, municipalities and autonomous regions, all the way to Shanghai. Once fully operational, the pipeline will supply natural gas to three eastern provinces, Northeast China, the Beijing-Tianjin-Hebei region, and the Yangtze River Delta, in volumes sufficient to meet the annual gas needs of 130 million Chinese households.

The east-route pipeline is connected to the Power of Siberia pipeline which transports Russian gas to China. A second project, Power of Siberia 2, is currently under consideration and could have a capacity of 50 bcm/year.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Power_of_Siberia_Map.png/800px-Power_of_Siberia_Map.png)


Meanwhile,, in the US, how are new pipelines doing?
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on November 24, 2024, 01:22:00 PM


There have been videos of the Su-57 at a China air show. But I hear they are Tu-50-4, a prototype.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on November 25, 2024, 08:53:37 AM


I always had a a positive view of US military tech since the gulf wars. Especially aviation especially the ability to project power using aircraft carriers, tankers. The F35s must be really good since so many countries are buying them. I wonder if they have a weakness as there are rumors.  I recall of the smart weapons going through windows in the gulf war.

But I also recall simulations and war games where US aircraft carriers in theater near China would last maybe 40 minutes.

The US spends almost 1 trillion per year on military. That is a lot.

Then I saw some video on maybe 5 Russian weapon systems. Why doesn't the US have these?
I recall hypersonics, that ICBM that can circle the south pole and hit US, the nuke powered cruise missile, the doomsday torpedo that can cause a tsunami, and maybe a new nuke sub fleet. Also the EW systems and all the S300 and S400 systems.

I wonder if the US is spending wisely.

Not always...

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/f-35s-cooling-crisis-design-flaws-fuel-2-trillion-dilemma-pentagon (https://www.zerohedge.com/military/f-35s-cooling-crisis-design-flaws-fuel-2-trillion-dilemma-pentagon)

But every nation has its pigs in a poke...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on December 13, 2024, 08:41:47 AM
So much for the myth of Russian tolerance...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/moscow-moves-ban-migrant-kids-school-unless-proficient-russian (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/moscow-moves-ban-migrant-kids-school-unless-proficient-russian)

 :D

If only we would stick to our guns!
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on December 18, 2024, 05:35:56 PM
So much for the myth of Russian tolerance...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/moscow-moves-ban-migrant-kids-school-unless-proficient-russian (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/moscow-moves-ban-migrant-kids-school-unless-proficient-russian)

 :D

If only we would stick to our guns!

The sub reddit AskaRussian is good. When asked about discrimination one group is mentioned some people from the central Asian countries as I recall they are called. There are Russian republics that are Islamic and these have the rights of others. They all have Russian passports and no regional passports as in USSR. There are also foreign countries that are Islamic and they require visas.

I wonder who the new laws apply to. All the Russian republics teach Russian plus a local language and they teach these at the same period across Russia using the same materials.

Quote
Yes, the Russian public school system will not provide free education (public schools) to children of foreigners who do not pass a basic language test, but they will be able to attend private schools.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on December 18, 2024, 05:48:19 PM

 American Youtuber Tommy "Sabbatical" jailed for weeks in Russia in the same place Mr. Bald was.  I watched the whole thing. Sad.
He was told he would be fined for being within 20 km of the border without a permit. Then they viewed his mostly pro Russian videos and found the word "invasion" so charged him with discrediting the military. Then perhaps with resisting arrest. Confusing. He spent 15 days in jail.

Tommy got arrested outside Birobidzhan when out wandering without his passport and filming a bridge near the Chinese border.

He references Mr. Bald and says he was held in the same police station/jail. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZzXEJ3bcw4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZzXEJ3bcw4)

Birobidzhan reminds me of evil so called "speed traps' in the old US South. They would trap northerners passing through and shake them down. Sometimes with jail terms until they could pay up. This place looked into the blog history of Mr. Bald and Sabbatical and found something to charge them with. Why this place? Why could they travel elsewhere in Russia without problems?

Note that the Russian Chinese border is no longer contested and is the Amur River where he was arrested and also in Blagoveshchensk which is on a major RR line. Just because the Russian govt can find a law to charge him with does mean they have to. This was a PR loss for the Russians that was not needed.

Here is the Russian Chinese border in Blagoveshchensk. China is in the background across the Amur River. . It is often filmed. Video bloggers have traveled to Blagoveshchensk before. Did they need a permit?

https://youtu.be/fV21wD3Hj0M?list=PLzChrYwMj8FaBjvXhbfhDdtobIARAbcwO (https://youtu.be/fV21wD3Hj0M?list=PLzChrYwMj8FaBjvXhbfhDdtobIARAbcwO)
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on December 19, 2024, 09:20:54 AM
So much for the myth of Russian tolerance...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/moscow-moves-ban-migrant-kids-school-unless-proficient-russian (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/moscow-moves-ban-migrant-kids-school-unless-proficient-russian)

 :D

If only we would stick to our guns!

The sub reddit AskaRussian is good. When asked about discrimination one group is mentioned some people from the central Asian countries as I recall they are called. There are Russian republics that are Islamic and these have the rights of others. They all have Russian passports and no regional passports as in USSR. There are also foreign countries that are Islamic and they require visas.

I wonder who the new laws apply to. All the Russian republics teach Russian plus a local language and they teach these at the same period across Russia using the same materials.

Quote
Yes, the Russian public school system will not provide free education (public schools) to children of foreigners who do not pass a basic language test, but they will be able to attend private schools.

Their private schools charge I take it, meaning there is a cost, or as hyper-socialists view it there is a punishment for being foreign...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on December 19, 2024, 09:23:16 AM

 American Youtuber Tommy "Sabbatical" jailed for weeks in Russia in the same place Mr. Bald was.  I watched the whole thing. Sad.
He was told he would be fined for being within 20 km of the border without a permit. Then they viewed his mostly pro Russian videos and found the word "invasion" so charged him with discrediting the military. Then perhaps with resisting arrest. Confusing. He spent 15 days in jail.

Tommy got arrested outside Birobidzhan when out wandering without his passport and filming a bridge near the Chinese border.

He references Mr. Bald and says he was held in the same police station/jail. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZzXEJ3bcw4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZzXEJ3bcw4)

Birobidzhan reminds me of evil so called "speed traps' in the old US South. They would trap northerners passing through and shake them down. Sometimes with jail terms until they could pay up. This place looked into the blog history of Mr. Bald and Sabbatical and found something to charge them with. Why this place? Why could they travel elsewhere in Russia without problems?

Note that the Russian Chinese border is no longer contested and is the Amur River where he was arrested and also in Blagoveshchensk which is on a major RR line. Just because the Russian govt can find a law to charge him with does mean they have to. This was a PR loss for the Russians that was not needed.

Here is the Russian Chinese border in Blagoveshchensk. China is in the background across the Amur River. . It is often filmed. Video bloggers have traveled to Blagoveshchensk before. Did they need a permit?

https://youtu.be/fV21wD3Hj0M?list=PLzChrYwMj8FaBjvXhbfhDdtobIARAbcwO (https://youtu.be/fV21wD3Hj0M?list=PLzChrYwMj8FaBjvXhbfhDdtobIARAbcwO)

Czar Vlad's Russia no likey any criticism...

And I don't see that changing anytime soon, or ever...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on December 19, 2024, 09:07:56 PM

 American Youtuber Tommy "Sabbatical" jailed for weeks in Russia in the same place Mr. Bald was.  I watched the whole thing. Sad.
He was told he would be fined for being within 20 km of the border without a permit. Then they viewed his mostly pro Russian videos and found the word "invasion" so charged him with discrediting the military. Then perhaps with resisting arrest. Confusing. He spent 15 days in jail.

Tommy got arrested outside Birobidzhan when out wandering without his passport and filming a bridge near the Chinese border.

He references Mr. Bald and says he was held in the same police station/jail. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZzXEJ3bcw4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZzXEJ3bcw4)

Birobidzhan reminds me of evil so called "speed traps' in the old US South. They would trap northerners passing through and shake them down. Sometimes with jail terms until they could pay up. This place looked into the blog history of Mr. Bald and Sabbatical and found something to charge them with. Why this place? Why could they travel elsewhere in Russia without problems?

Note that the Russian Chinese border is no longer contested and is the Amur River where he was arrested and also in Blagoveshchensk which is on a major RR line. Just because the Russian govt can find a law to charge him with does mean they have to. This was a PR loss for the Russians that was not needed.

Here is the Russian Chinese border in Blagoveshchensk. China is in the background across the Amur River. . It is often filmed. Video bloggers have traveled to Blagoveshchensk before. Did they need a permit?

https://youtu.be/fV21wD3Hj0M?list=PLzChrYwMj8FaBjvXhbfhDdtobIARAbcwO (https://youtu.be/fV21wD3Hj0M?list=PLzChrYwMj8FaBjvXhbfhDdtobIARAbcwO)

Czar Vlad's Russia no likey any criticism...

And I don't see that changing anytime soon, or ever...

These vloggers can roam Russia w/o problems but get arrested by some petty tyrants in Blagoveshchensk?


Here is the Russian Chinese border in Blagoveshchensk. China is in the background. It is often filmed. Video bloggers have traveled to Blagoveshchensk before.

https://youtu.be/fV21wD3Hj0M?list=PLzChrYwMj8FaBjvXhbfhDdtobIARAbcwO (https://youtu.be/fV21wD3Hj0M?list=PLzChrYwMj8FaBjvXhbfhDdtobIARAbcwO)

Some Russiaphiles are explaining this as some top secret border installations being filmed. BS. There are dozens of video blogs on this city pair  Blagoveshchensk Russia - Heihe China

Here is a vlogger along the border. Did he need a permit? Was he jailed for filming?

https://youtu.be/e8QyjSKbT_M (https://youtu.be/e8QyjSKbT_M)

https://youtu.be/uo0UUx8ZRHs (https://youtu.be/uo0UUx8ZRHs)

https://youtu.be/8SKyic0lL3o (https://youtu.be/8SKyic0lL3o)
Russians Flock to China’s Border City for Breakfast, Shopping as Visa-Free Group Travel Resumes

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on December 19, 2024, 11:08:10 PM


What bothered me is how inconsistent this vlogger treatment is with all the vlogs I have watched over time from Russia. And both incidents were from the same place.. Being too close to the border w/o a permit? Pleeeez. There are at least 50 video blogs from Blagoveshchensk which in on the RR line and borders China across the Amur River. People cross the bridge to shop and eat Chinese food in Heihe. It is not a high security area.

I have watched countless videos from the ADVChina guys, many others from Russia and Vietnam. The ADVChina guys rode motorcycles through all China provinces. I almost always get a much better impression than I had before the videos. Venezuela was as dangerous as I thought and varied with region. Iran seemed like 1950s America. I loved the Iran hitch hiking videos. Cuba was much worse than I thought.

The most mind blowing video from Russia I saw was from Gorky Park dancing, from Moscow. NOT what I expected.
https://youtu.be/SAWUf7CPCK4?t=1645



Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on December 20, 2024, 08:07:27 AM

 American Youtuber Tommy "Sabbatical" jailed for weeks in Russia in the same place Mr. Bald was.  I watched the whole thing. Sad.
He was told he would be fined for being within 20 km of the border without a permit. Then they viewed his mostly pro Russian videos and found the word "invasion" so charged him with discrediting the military. Then perhaps with resisting arrest. Confusing. He spent 15 days in jail.

Tommy got arrested outside Birobidzhan when out wandering without his passport and filming a bridge near the Chinese border.

He references Mr. Bald and says he was held in the same police station/jail. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZzXEJ3bcw4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZzXEJ3bcw4)

Birobidzhan reminds me of evil so called "speed traps' in the old US South. They would trap northerners passing through and shake them down. Sometimes with jail terms until they could pay up. This place looked into the blog history of Mr. Bald and Sabbatical and found something to charge them with. Why this place? Why could they travel elsewhere in Russia without problems?

Note that the Russian Chinese border is no longer contested and is the Amur River where he was arrested and also in Blagoveshchensk which is on a major RR line. Just because the Russian govt can find a law to charge him with does mean they have to. This was a PR loss for the Russians that was not needed.

Here is the Russian Chinese border in Blagoveshchensk. China is in the background across the Amur River. . It is often filmed. Video bloggers have traveled to Blagoveshchensk before. Did they need a permit?

https://youtu.be/fV21wD3Hj0M?list=PLzChrYwMj8FaBjvXhbfhDdtobIARAbcwO (https://youtu.be/fV21wD3Hj0M?list=PLzChrYwMj8FaBjvXhbfhDdtobIARAbcwO)

Czar Vlad's Russia no likey any criticism...

And I don't see that changing anytime soon, or ever...

These vloggers can roam Russia w/o problems but get arrested by some petty tyrants in Blagoveshchensk?


Here is the Russian Chinese border in Blagoveshchensk. China is in the background. It is often filmed. Video bloggers have traveled to Blagoveshchensk before.

https://youtu.be/fV21wD3Hj0M?list=PLzChrYwMj8FaBjvXhbfhDdtobIARAbcwO (https://youtu.be/fV21wD3Hj0M?list=PLzChrYwMj8FaBjvXhbfhDdtobIARAbcwO)

Some Russiaphiles are explaining this as some top secret border installations being filmed. BS. There are dozens of video blogs on this city pair  Blagoveshchensk Russia - Heihe China

Here is a vlogger along the border. Did he need a permit? Was he jailed for filming?

https://youtu.be/e8QyjSKbT_M (https://youtu.be/e8QyjSKbT_M)

https://youtu.be/uo0UUx8ZRHs (https://youtu.be/uo0UUx8ZRHs)

https://youtu.be/8SKyic0lL3o (https://youtu.be/8SKyic0lL3o)
Russians Flock to China’s Border City for Breakfast, Shopping as Visa-Free Group Travel Resumes

Well, obviously not saying anything bad about Russia, it's government or leaders!   :o

As for that border town...  Like any town with a sketchy rep, how about avoiding it... Just a thought...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on December 20, 2024, 09:53:32 AM


That border town Blagoveshchensk is not the problem. Birobidzhan  is the center of the Jewish Autonomous District. That is the problem.
It is sh*thole almost no one goes to.

Blagoveshchensk has a bridge across the Amur river to Heihe China. It is also the crossing point of some major pipelines as I recall.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on December 27, 2024, 06:23:47 AM


Some marshal arts club in Russia. They ask each person their ethnicity or where they are from.

https://t.me/putingers_cat/12738
🇷🇺 A typical martial arts club somewhere in Moscow - Russia is home to 190+ ethnicities, most of which are indigenous to the land.

(Next time they tell you Russia is racist. (https://t.me/InessaFromYoutube/7680))
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 08, 2025, 10:21:30 AM
In the WWII siege of Leningrad the cats were eaten so the rat population got out of control. After the siege lots of cats were imported to the city.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskARussian/comments/1hwbh6t/did_the_soviets_bring_cats_to_leningrad_after_the/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskARussian/comments/1hwbh6t/did_the_soviets_bring_cats_to_leningrad_after_the/)

https://imgur.com/O5Grgz4 (https://imgur.com/O5Grgz4)
In Tyumen there is a park with monuments to cats sent to Leningrad to solve the rat problem:
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on January 08, 2025, 01:01:28 PM
I don't tolerate cat-eaters...  That's just savagery...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 10, 2025, 04:41:04 PM
I don't tolerate cat-eaters...  That's just savagery...

Yeah. It was the siege of Leningrad. They were starving. I recall Putin lost a brother. His father was tossed on a pile of corpses but his mom pulled him off because he was still breathing.

Civilians: Between 800,000 and 1,200,000 people died, primarily from starvation, as well as from bombings, cold, and disease.The Finns helped with the siege.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 10, 2025, 04:45:18 PM


Just found a good video about hating Russians going way way back. Better than the books I slogged through.
Part V about the Putin era kinda sucked as it was pure western side of things with the other side not mentioned at all.
She is  kinda funny and flip. It goes back before the great schism.

https://youtu.be/mFAV3QodWE4
 Has the West always been afraid of Russia?
The Applied Historian


Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on January 13, 2025, 09:01:23 AM
Well, Joey sponge-brain sh*ts-pants just laid more sanctions on Russia on his way out...or rather his handlers did and made the muppet sign it into existence...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 13, 2025, 10:39:31 AM


yeah the Univ Ave construction for the train put several  businesses out of business. The best computer repair place closed.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 19, 2025, 08:52:28 PM
Some cute photos.

https://t.me/myLordBebo/56247
  In Sarzhyn Yar, Kharkiv residents celebrate Epiphany according to the old calendar!

The water there will be blessed throughout the day.

?? They celebrate it with the Russians together, Zelensky must be furious after he banned the Orthodox Church and moved the dates to be in sync with Western Europe.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on January 20, 2025, 08:43:50 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-iran-sign-20-year-defense-energy-pact-three-days-trump-inauguration (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-iran-sign-20-year-defense-energy-pact-three-days-trump-inauguration)

Next boat-anchor-around-their-neck chosen...

 ::hysterical::

Not gonna stop action on Iran if it comes...say goodbye to another customer...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on January 23, 2025, 09:04:08 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/us-sanctions-could-hit-15-million-bpd-russian-oil-exports (https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/us-sanctions-could-hit-15-million-bpd-russian-oil-exports)

India already scrambling elsewhere...   ::smallestviolin::

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on January 23, 2025, 02:59:27 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/us-sanctions-could-hit-15-million-bpd-russian-oil-exports (https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/us-sanctions-could-hit-15-million-bpd-russian-oil-exports)

India already scrambling elsewhere...   ::smallestviolin::

Did Biden hold off on this to stop gsoline prices from rising?
Also I thought India and China did not care bout US sanctions.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on January 23, 2025, 03:13:38 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/us-sanctions-could-hit-15-million-bpd-russian-oil-exports (https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/us-sanctions-could-hit-15-million-bpd-russian-oil-exports)

India already scrambling elsewhere...   ::smallestviolin::

Did Biden hold off on this to stop gsoline prices from rising?
Also I thought India and China did not care bout US sanctions.

Most likely...

..and...

Me too!   ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 01, 2025, 03:29:43 PM

Geez. She speaks Russian, English AND Chinese
https://t.me/TheRealPolitick/4604
🇷🇺🤝🇨🇳 Maria Zakharova wished Chinese friends a happy Chinese New Year

Dear Chinese friends! Hello! Hello everyone! We are in the center of Moscow. The Kremlin and Red Square are behind me. I wish you all a happy Chinese New Year! I wish you a happy life, good luck and good health! I wish you all a happy 2025! Thank you all! Happy Chinese New Year!
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 03, 2025, 09:15:03 AM
Well, yeah...

We used to have competent people as well who could also speak multiple languages...

Most prevalently in the Reagan Era...

I recall Vernon Walters surprising folks in a South America conference in Rio or someplace....speaking Russian and something else with folks...

An old school emphasis vs the woke and feminazi movements here...

Funny story - Listened to a former KGB defector over the weekend, Barsky I think his name was...said his Pal in the service was close with the supervisor in East Germany for one young Vladimir Putin...said he was not all that bright and not a very good agent...was posted there mostly because he could speak fluent German...said he did have organization skills and (flashing forward to how he rose in power from St. Petersburg to the Kremlin) was a prolific networker...explains how well he tied all oligarchs to him...

Anyway...hopefully we can get back to merit as Trump says...and that return to competence brings back some old school common sense...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 05, 2025, 05:24:05 PM


Barsky is cool. Lex Friedman did a long interview. He said his initial training was poor as USSR knew nothing of America. He said his job was not like the illegals in The Americans. No violence for him. I LOVE the Americans BTW.  He was caught AFTER he retired so the US let him go.

Yes Putin's skills were in admin. He was one of the most westernized Soviet people and was very pro western.  He grew up in Leningrad which was westernized compared to other Russian cities.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 05, 2025, 05:27:16 PM


I recall USSR excelled in certain areas.  They did not suck at everything. They had good designers and programmers. I recall Wall St. snapped up their programmers after the USSR fell. I have read summaries about the cybernetics programming and people wandering whether it would have helped with pricing in the USSR.

I keep hearing about new weapon systems coming out of Russia.  How are they able to do this with a GDP the size of Italy and such low spending on military?  Look up Bill Binney and his low budget SW for tracking harmful communications sometime. He says it would have detected 9/11 but was replaced with much more expensive SW for the grift. Read about the US sidewinder development. Very low budget by good designers. Beat out the radar versions. designers still are in awe of the rollerons and the  use of 7(?) vacuum tubes to control the missile.
The initial lock on was detected when the pilots listened to the missile via headphones and heard them growl.

Soviet designers were also in awe of the first sidewinder they retrieved from the tail of a chinese fighter.

https://t.me/EurasianChoice/46728
DEEPSEEK: THE GHOST OF THE SOVIET UNION HAUNTS SILICON VALLEY

Turns out DeepSeek, the AI titan shaking up the tech world, wasn’t born in Beijing boardrooms or Silicon Valley labs. It was built on the forgotten code of the Soviet Union.

“I won’t lie, our AI was created on the basis of Soviet developments - the OGAS system of Academician Glushkov,” admitted project manager Liang Wenfeng.

Without it? No DeepSeek. No AI revolution. No competition with ChatGPT.

The West poured billions into AI, while Russia’s intellectual gold was auctioned off for a measly $15,000 in 1995.
Now that “worthless” code is the backbone of the very tech shaking American dominance.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 06, 2025, 08:13:00 AM
I dispute the dominance of DeepSeek...I reckon it is not much more than a cute little toy feeding info back to Beijing and meant to dick with our tech stocks which has played out...and I am now hearing it poached some code from ChatGPT...  Still waiting on any CCP-linked short sells of said stocks to be revealed...

As for Russians, always had competent scientists and mathematicians...they just lacked the funding and scale we had...thus a lot of what the Soviets developed was mostly rudimentary, practical and as cheap and easy to produce as possible...  Sure, some knew early computer code fairly well, I know the coder behind Tetris was Russian...again they just lacked scale & funding...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 08, 2025, 05:21:11 PM

Some history. The decisions of Kiev to interfere with the language, religion, and culture of the Donbass continues to amaze. They are indeed crazy. According to ChatGPT   below .... It appears that the Mongols did not inter breed with the locals aside from some high level arranged marriages.

Did the mongols in Russia allow local autonomy
ChatGPT said:

Yes, the Mongols, under the Golden Horde, generally allowed a significant degree of local autonomy in Russia. After their conquest of Kievan Rus' in the 13th century, they established a tributary system rather than direct rule. The Mongols:

    Allowed Russian princes to govern their own territories as long as they paid tribute and acknowledged Mongol supremacy.
    Appointed the Grand Prince of Vladimir (the most powerful Russian ruler) but largely let him manage internal affairs.
    Did not interfere in religion, allowing the Russian Orthodox Church to remain independent and even granting it tax exemptions.
    Maintained a system of tribute and military levies rather than direct administration, relying on local rulers to collect taxes.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 09, 2025, 07:09:59 PM
Yeah, all you have to do is agree to be another's bitch and pay tribute...

So nothing has changed...

 ::hysterical::
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on February 15, 2025, 12:28:11 PM


I just found this video on the Soviet wired radios. Good video. Old people did not like the newer ones with more than one channel. Too confusing.

https://youtu.be/AvTaNVXGR0w How This Soviet Wired Radio Clung to the Hearts of Millions

Step into the post-Soviet kitchen with me as I uncover the fascinating story of the Soviet wired radio—a device that was once a lifeline, a propaganda tool, and a source of comfort for millions. This wired "radio," a staple in nearly every Soviet household, didn’t just play music or deliver news—it was a symbol of an era. In this video,

I’ll plug in my grandmother’s old wired radio, explore its unique technology, and delve into the history of this ingenious yet controlling system. From its role in spreading state messages to its transformation into a nostalgic centerpiece for seniors, this device held a powerful grip on everyday life.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on February 17, 2025, 07:44:56 AM
Those people were hard-wired for nothing but fodder...  Perfect tools for totalitarians and imperialists...  Still are I would argue...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on April 16, 2025, 05:55:19 PM

The title is a little bit click bait. In another video she describes how the Russian language wins out. A local creator can create a work, say a book, in the local language or in Russian. The bigger market wins out. The best and brightest young people often want to get ahead so move to Moscow or St. Petersburg where Russian is spoken. Their old local language is slowly lost. 

She is from Russia but lives in Southern CA, US. I like her material.


https://youtu.be/rzXXaZQI6rc
What Russians Secretly Think About Other Nationalities

I grew up in Soviet Russia, in a city literally named "Bitter," and that's exactly how life felt beneath the glittering surface of state propaganda. On posters, we were a family of nations united by unbreakable bonds—but in reality, the cracks ran deep. From Gypsies to Caucasians, Ukrainians to Central Asian migrants, stereotypes shaped our views, fueling tensions that continue today. Join me, Elvira Bary, as I share powerful stories from my childhood, revealing the hidden prejudices that define Russia’s past and present.

Video Chapters:

00:00 What Russians Secretly Think About Other Nationalities
01:01 The Gypsies
05:19 Caucasians
11:53 Ukrainians and Belarusians
14:04 Minority Nations
17:46 Migrants from Central Asia
19:54 A Role Reversal

Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on April 16, 2025, 09:22:58 PM
I looked into some ethnic backgrounds of some soviet/Russian elite.

After coming across various Russians and officials in the USSR I get the feeling that outright ethnic hatred was not OK in either. There were and are laws against inciting racial/ethnic/religious hatred. Some of this is from commie propaganda that we are a family of nations or ethnic groups. It is benign propaganda and better than the racial sort. There were recognition of different ethnic groups. The Ukrainians were romanticized a pure rural folk which is not far from the truth. 

Karl Marx’s ethnic background was primarily Ashkenazi Jewish, with both his paternal and maternal lines originating from Jewish communities in the Rhineland and possibly Eastern Europe. Through his parents’ conversion to Christianity and their integration into Prussian society, he was also ethnically and culturally German, with minor Dutch Jewish influences via his mother’s family.



Lenin’s ethnic background was a mix of Russian (Slavic), Kalmyk (Mongolic), Jewish, German, and possibly Chuvash (Turkic) heritage. This diversity was not uncommon in the Russian Empire, where intermarriage among ethnic groups occurred frequently, especially among the educated classes like Lenin’s family. Lenin himself identified with Russian culture and the Russian revolutionary movement, and his ethnic background was not a prominent aspect of his public identity.

Joseph Stalin’s ethnic background was Georgian, with both parents being ethnic Georgians from the Caucasus region.



Nikita Khrushchev’s ethnic background was Russian (Slavic), with both parents being ethnic Russians from the Kursk region. His Russian identity was reflected in his language, culture, and early life as a peasant and later industrial worker. His ethnicity was not a significant factor in his political career, as he operated within the multiethnic Soviet framework, emphasizing Soviet unity over regional or ethnic distinctions.... Moved to Ukraine as a Young Man: At age 14 (around 1908), Khrushchev moved with his family to Yuzovka (now Donetsk, Ukraine), a mining and industrial town in the Donbas region, then part of the Russian Empire. ... Leadership Roles in Soviet Ukraine: Khrushchev rose through the Communist Party ranks in Ukraine during the 1920s and 1930s. He held significant positions, including:

Fluid National Identities: At the time of Khrushchev’s birth, the Russian Empire did not have rigid national boundaries between Russians and Ukrainians in the way modern nation-states do. The Kursk region and eastern Ukraine were part of a broader East Slavic cultural continuum. Ukrainians and Russians were often categorized under the imperial “Russian” identity, which included “Great Russians” (ethnic Russians), “Little Russians” (Ukrainians), and “White Russians” (Belarusians).

Soviet Nationality Policy: The Soviet Union recognized Ukrainians and Russians as distinct nationalities, but the Party emphasized a unified “Soviet” identity. Khrushchev’s long tenure in Ukraine and his role in integrating Ukraine into the Soviet system may have led some to assume he was Ukrainian, especially since Soviet leaders were often associated with the republics they governed.




Mikhail Gorbachev’s ethnic background was Russian (Slavic), with both parents being ethnic Russians from Stavropol Krai.

Leonid Brezhnev’s ethnic background was Russian (Slavic), with both parents being ethnic Russians from Kamenskoye, in what is now Ukraine but was then part of the Russian Empire. The misconception that he was Ukrainian arises from his birthplace in a region with a mixed Russian-Ukrainian population and its later inclusion in Soviet Ukraine, but Brezhnev was unequivocally Russian in ethnicity and identity.

Putins wife/partner
Lyudmila Shkrebneva: Ethnic Russian, born in Kaliningrad to Russian parents, with no confirmed non-Russian ancestry despite minor speculation about her father’s patronym.

Alina Kabaeva: Mixed Tatar (paternal) and Russian (maternal), born in Tashkent, reflecting the multiethnic composition of the Soviet Union.












Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on April 17, 2025, 08:18:07 AM
Well sure, I don't see Vlad shagging a lesser Slav...
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: patentlymn on April 17, 2025, 09:59:38 AM


Vlad's current squeeze is half Tatar. I recall the current Russian FM is half Armenian.
Title: Re: Russia
Post by: Libertas on April 17, 2025, 10:11:21 AM
Slumming!   ::hysterical::