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Offline Lady Virginia

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Vaccine
« on: April 20, 2021, 08:51:39 PM »
How many articles reporting side effects with a final paragraph which always says "but the vaccine has been proven safe and no one should hesitate to get one" does there need to be BEFORE people start asking why we had to have draconian lockdowns and masks 24/7  "because it was worth it if it saved one life" but a vaccine for a virus that has a 99.97% recovery rate with a side effect of death is OK?


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Re: Vaccine
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2021, 09:55:35 PM »
There is nothing anyone can say or point to that would convince such people.  How many dutifully go for their flu shots every year even though the effectiveness of those is something like 10%, iirc?

They've been, literally, scared out of their wits by the "media" and Fauci, AND the medical industry to the point where they *know* that to get the WuFlu is a 20-25% chance of death.

They've heard they're to get tested and upon a positive result, told to go home and if their lips turn blue, to go to the hospital.  Then their choices are Remdesivir and/or ventilator.  The information about HCQ+ and Ivermectin, and now the few other drugs that are known to be effective, have deliberately been kept from them in the pursuit of their fear-based compliance, and out of that fear, they are willing to take a chance the non-vaxx won't hurt them and they'll be able to go back to their normal lives.

Except they won't, they're told they won't -- MASK UP! -- and still they get it.    ::facepalm::
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Re: Vaccine
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2021, 08:21:43 AM »
The public will be abused until the public in total accepts cradle to grave submission to the enlightened rule of the totalitarian elite.

Therefor, total resistance to them is mandatory...whatever it takes.
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Re: Vaccine
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2021, 03:53:43 PM »
just heard a clip on radio top of the hour news of Biden saying  2 weeks after your 2nd vax shot you are guaranteed almost 100% free from dying from covid......

no word on dying from side effects though..... ::facepalm::

or you were likely never at risk if you're under 55

or not obese

or immune compromised

etc etc

AND no word on why you have still wear a mask or distance


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Re: Vaccine
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2021, 04:51:45 PM »
just heard a clip on radio top of the hour news of Biden saying  2 weeks after your 2nd vax shot you are guaranteed almost 100% free from dying from covid......

no word on dying from side effects though..... ::facepalm::

or you were likely never at risk if you're under 55

or not obese

or immune compromised

etc etc

AND no word on why you have still wear a mask or distance

"Guaranteed almost . . .", "Almost guaranteed . . .", "It's for sure . . . or just about 'for sure'"

Confidence inspiring . . . NOT.
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Re: Vaccine
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2021, 09:37:43 PM »
I heard the clip again and even as he says it his tone is so uninspiring that's it's pitiful...




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Re: Vaccine
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2021, 09:49:17 PM »
'Cause he's pitiful.  And, now, we're pitiful 'cause Mr. Demento is the President of These United States.
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Re: Vaccine
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2021, 10:33:18 PM »
I heard the clip again and even as he says it his tone is so uninspiring that's it's pitiful...

My oh my, we haven’t seen you around these parts for some time! Not that I’ve been very present myself for a while now, but I pop my head in several times a week. Welcome back.
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Re: Vaccine
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2021, 10:37:12 PM »
I’m not getting this shot unless my employer forces me, and even then, I may consider quitting rather than complying. I’m working in the medical field now, and my work has me in and out of several medical facilities in a day, and some of them nursing homes. I come in close contact with staff, who in turn come in close contact with patients. So if they try to compel it, I understand why, but I don’t want it in my body. I’ve had Covid, and my own immune system overcame it quite easily. I never felt in any danger whatsoever. It was like a very mild case of the flu, without the vomiting and without the diarrhea. Just a low grade fever, body aches, faitgue. Lost my sense of taste for about a week and a half. That’s about it, unless the Chi-Comms baked some nasty delayed effects that nobody knows about yet.
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Re: Vaccine
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2021, 10:45:01 PM »
I’m not getting this shot unless my employer forces me, and even then, I may consider quitting rather than complying. I’m working in the medical field now, and my work has me in and out of several medical facilities in a day, and some of them nursing homes. I come in close contact with staff, who in turn come in close contact with patients. So if they try to compel it, I understand why, but I don’t want it in my body. I’ve had Covid, and my own immune system overcame it quite easily. I never felt in any danger whatsoever. It was like a very mild case of the flu, without the vomiting and without the diarrhea. Just a low grade fever, body aches, faitgue. Lost my sense of taste for about a week and a half. That’s about it, unless the Chi-Comms baked some nasty delayed effects that nobody knows about yet.

I suspect that more about the non-vaxx than the WuFlu.

It's good to "see" you, too; need to see you around more often.
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Re: Vaccine
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2021, 07:58:04 AM »
I will under no circumstance accede to this madness...
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Re: Vaccine
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2021, 11:58:04 AM »
https://rumble.com/vfpgoh-dr.-bhakdi-interview.html

Fact:  The Tests widely used to test for COVID are not calibrated and can be over-cycled - giving false positives
Fact:  The False positives were and are used to drive hysteria to drive lock downs and widespread natural rights violations while benefiting big corporations at the expense of smaller enterprises
Fact:  Deaths that are not COIVD, and  are unrelated to COVID but  occur conincdient with other illnesses/injuries  are reported as COVID deaths (after being given a test that may be presetning a false positive for COVID)
Fact: The chance of dying from COVID if you are under 70 is around 5 in 10,000. The doctor is right there is no way to measure the efficacy of the vaccine to see if it reduced to 0-4 in 10,000)  without a trial in the  millions 
Fact : The Vaccines are reported by their makers to only  94-95% effective and some people are still getting COVID after the vaccine(https://www.foxnews.com/health/6k-covid-19-vaccine-recipients-got-virus)
Fact: The government is working with Big Business to impose a defacto requirement for immunization to travel or shop
Fact: The government is actively making plans to attempt to disarm the population, and/or make it possible to arrest gun owners as a form of persecution
Fact:  Big Tech has engaged in censorship to stop the propagation and sharing of these facts
Fact: Election anomalies occurred, eyewitnesses reported fraud, illegal rule changes were made, information was suppressed and  and legal audits are being hampered all of which call the results of the last election into question with large portions of the population.
Fact: Government debt to GDP ratios are well into historically unsustainable territory.
Fact: The government is allowing unofficial shock troops to terrorize and victimize politcal opponents without consequence.

The writing is on the wall folks. There is a plan to reduce the U.S. population under absolute despotism.
If you are healthy and under 70  do not get the vaccine.
Get out of the city or be prepared to leave in short order
Pay off debt.
Prep for your basic needs
Become as self-sufficient as possible
Build your networks of like minded individuals.
Draw your lines in the sand and prepare yourself mentally, physically and spiritually to defend them

These people are all in and things will not get better.

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Re: Vaccine
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2021, 01:33:52 PM »
Oh yeah...JoeFraud putting people in that are making the sh!t worse...

https://notthebee.com/article/check-out-these-racist-tweets-from-one-of-bidens-top-covid-officials

Genocidal maniac...

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Re: Vaccine
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2021, 05:23:12 PM »
IDP-glad to you. Nice to see almost everyone I remember is still checking in.

Some madness --my daughter had covid a few months ago--tested positive twice (rapid & PCR), recovered & tested positive for antibodies. She went out of state to see her uncle who was recovering from life-saving surgery  and has been told by employer when she returns she must quarantine for 5 days and negative test if not vaxxed and quarantine for 3 days and negative test if vaxxed before retuning to office.

HOW STUPID IS THAT?

The owner of the company has been meeting with his lawyers to see if he can require employees to get vaxx or be fired.

and I read this today and it's heartbreaking but unfortunately not enough to stop the madness...
Two-year-old baby in Virginia dead six days after second experimental Pfizer mRNA shot

https://tinyurl.com/wyz4m6t8

why why why --kids don't get it, kids don't spread it

what are they testing??? The control group isn't going to have sick kids because kids don't get it. So what's the point of comparing the control group with the trial group?? Are they testing to see if kids get sick from the vaccine???

And the parents are eager to sign up their kids!!

I heard a doctor on the radio supposedly an MD expert in disease say babies are a reservoir of potential covid infection........ ::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm::

no they are not but the show host says nothing.......

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Re: Vaccine
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2021, 06:14:14 AM »
This ^^ is the insanity that's taken hold of almost everyone -- people are not *thinking*!  What we are experiencing now are human trials of these "vaccines", without that being explicitly stated.

Military members may, for now, refuse the gene therapy shot because it was authorized for emergency use and is not FDA approved.  If the military members can demur on that basis, so can anyone else, I'd imagine.

A nurse from my GI doc's office called yesterday and asked if "accommodating" me by allowing me to wear a face shield instead of a mask would be satisfactory as I am overdue for my colonoscopy.  I said no, that if I was sick I wouldn't be going to the office anyway, and, not being sick, I wasn't going to pretend I was by covering my face.

A lot of what I read informs that folks are not seeing their doctors because they fear becoming infected with the WuFlu.  I never read/hear that any are just fed up with the "precautions".  I'm hoping there are more like me and fewer of the scared.
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Re: Vaccine
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2021, 02:03:03 PM »
This ^^ is the insanity that's taken hold of almost everyone -- people are not *thinking*!  What we are experiencing now are human trials of these "vaccines", without that being explicitly stated.

Military members may, for now, refuse the gene therapy shot because it was authorized for emergency use and is not FDA approved.  If the military members can demur on that basis, so can anyone else, I'd imagine.

A nurse from my GI doc's office called yesterday and asked if "accommodating" me by allowing me to wear a face shield instead of a mask would be satisfactory as I am overdue for my colonoscopy.  I said no, that if I was sick I wouldn't be going to the office anyway, and, not being sick, I wasn't going to pretend I was by covering my face.

A lot of what I read informs that folks are not seeing their doctors because they fear becoming infected with the WuFlu.  I never read/hear that any are just fed up with the "precautions".  I'm hoping there are more like me and fewer of the scared.

I went to the doctor wearing a neck gaiter as I can breathe easier. That wasn't good enough for them and they handed me a disposable mask. I put it on and my  glasses fogged up. So my breath was going out through the top.
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Re: Vaccine
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2021, 02:05:36 PM »

I take some zinc and lots of vit D. Dr. Fauci said he takes 8,000 IU per day in winter. I take 4-5K IU per day.
https://freedomfirstnetwork.com/2021/04/ftc-takes-censorship-to-a-whole-new-level-charges-and-fines-st-louis-man-for-questioning-vaccines-promoting-zinc-and-vitamin-d

FTC takes censorship to a whole new level, charges and fines St. Louis man for questioning vaccines, promoting zinc and vitamin D
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Re: Vaccine
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2021, 03:57:11 PM »
I have made zero changes to my lifestyle (other than standing 6 feet apart at the checkout line). My wife & I have taken supplements, including a 3-6-9 balanced Omega product + Krill oil, for years. I'm in the field, visiting small businesses 3 days a week -- shaking hands & discussing solutions (masked if they ask me to). Our church has met for over a year -- everyone unmasked and I have attended numerous funerals (all held in Christian schools to end-run the rules) with 300+ unmasked people hugging & shaking hands.

So either I'm incredibly lucky -- OR supplements work wonders -- OR . . . the "pandemic" is total horse-sh*t and an excuse to wipe freedom from the planet & move us to one world government along with Agenda 21 implementation.

I will not take the vaccine under any circumstances & will shoot, knife or beat to death any attempting to make me do so. I personally don't think it'll come to mandated vaccination -- however IF it comes to having to show proof to grocery shop or go to Home Depot . . . then my name will become a household name overnight!
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Re: Vaccine
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2021, 04:12:09 PM »

I take some zinc and lots of vit D. Dr. Fauci said he takes 8,000 IU per day in winter. I take 4-5K IU per day.
https://freedomfirstnetwork.com/2021/04/ftc-takes-censorship-to-a-whole-new-level-charges-and-fines-st-louis-man-for-questioning-vaccines-promoting-zinc-and-vitamin-d

FTC takes censorship to a whole new level, charges and fines St. Louis man for questioning vaccines, promoting zinc and vitamin D

Forget Fauci.  (I'm watching the vulgarity otherwise I'd have written another verb.)

I'd suggest adding vitamin C to your routine; according to Dr. Colleen Huber, 1000 IU 2X a day.
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Re: Vaccine
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2021, 07:51:13 PM »

I take some zinc and lots of vit D. Dr. Fauci said he takes 8,000 IU per day in winter. I take 4-5K IU per day.
https://freedomfirstnetwork.com/2021/04/ftc-takes-censorship-to-a-whole-new-level-charges-and-fines-st-louis-man-for-questioning-vaccines-promoting-zinc-and-vitamin-d

FTC takes censorship to a whole new level, charges and fines St. Louis man for questioning vaccines, promoting zinc and vitamin D

Forget Fauci.  (I'm watching the vulgarity otherwise I'd have written another verb.)

I'd suggest adding vitamin C to your routine; according to Dr. Colleen Huber, 1000 IU 2X a day.

Someone asked why we only see on doctor on TV and on that never treats patients.
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