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Re: Drones over the U.S.
« Reply #80 on: September 15, 2012, 08:17:10 PM »

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Drones-are-Ready-for-Takeoff.html

With no need to carry people, drones designed for such work come in all sizes and shapes. Some look like a flying engine cowling (minus the rest of the plane) or a laptop with tail fins. Some are as big as a 737; others have the heft, and flapping wings, of a sparrow.

Some drones also look like conventional aircraft, ...


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« Reply #81 on: September 16, 2012, 07:36:55 PM »
Just tell me how to bring them down.
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« Reply #82 on: September 16, 2012, 09:38:43 PM »
We need a new legal framework to deal with changes brought about by the rapid pace of technology. You often hear "there is no right to privacy", well perhaps it is time that such a right indeed is codified into law. It used to be that there was no need for a specific right, because it was understood that anything you do or say out in public is subject to public consumption. But that does not account for the all-seeing, all-hearing, never-distracted senses of these artificial busybodies.

We're not becoming a police state, we are one. It may not be a fully malevolent one yet, but it's swiftly moving in that direction and all the tools for doing so are already in place.
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Re: Drones over the U.S.
« Reply #83 on: September 16, 2012, 10:04:52 PM »
We need a new legal framework to deal with changes brought about by the rapid pace of technology. You often hear "there is no right to privacy", well perhaps it is time that such a right indeed is codified into law.

Of course there is; I don't give a sht what "they" say.  Why? because it's not "listed" in the Constitution? 

Same baloney with "driving is a privilege".  Izzat so?  Let's see, we pay multiple taxes for the roads -- and that includes on our vehicles and the licensing by the State -- and, that amounts to privilege?  In spite of the right to travel?  Or is that not a right either?

And, yes, I know we're not talking the Feds here, but the individual States, and I don't care.

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It used to be that there was no need for a specific right, because it was understood that anything you do or say out in public is subject to public consumption. But that does not account for the all-seeing, all-hearing, never-distracted senses of these artificial busybodies.

We're not becoming a police state, we are one. It may not be a fully malevolent one yet, but it's swiftly moving in that direction and all the tools for doing so are already in place.

They must be stopped.
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Re: Drones over the U.S.
« Reply #84 on: September 17, 2012, 04:36:48 AM »

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Drones-are-Ready-for-Takeoff.html

With no need to carry people, drones designed for such work come in all sizes and shapes. Some look like a flying engine cowling (minus the rest of the plane) or a laptop with tail fins. Some are as big as a 737; others have the heft, and flapping wings, of a sparrow.

Some drones also look like conventional aircraft, ...



And some look like a clueless sp**k campaigning for president .

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« Reply #85 on: September 17, 2012, 07:12:11 AM »
We need a new legal framework to deal with changes brought about by the rapid pace of technology. You often hear "there is no right to privacy", well perhaps it is time that such a right indeed is codified into law. It used to be that there was no need for a specific right, because it was understood that anything you do or say out in public is subject to public consumption. But that does not account for the all-seeing, all-hearing, never-distracted senses of these artificial busybodies.

We're not becoming a police state, we are one. It may not be a fully malevolent one yet, but it's swiftly moving in that direction and all the tools for doing so are already in place.

Perhaps a new Amendment looking to update the Bill of Rights for modern intrusions into our privacy is in order...but what am I saying?  Any such effort would be offered by political animals, and will either be watered down to a meaningless state, marginalized by corrupt judges or just outright violated like so many other rights we once enjoyed and jealously protected.

Peaceful political resolution of our problems on the vast majority of issues destroying this Republic-in-name-only is futile.
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« Reply #86 on: October 06, 2012, 05:03:16 PM »
$300. - $500.00

Parrot AR.Drone

The AR.Drone flying over Paris : a best of 2011


http://gamesgadgetsnmore.blogspot.com/2010/06/parrot-ardrone.html

http://ardrone2.parrot.com/ardrone-2/altitude/

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I'm thinking air to air would be anymouse and fun too!



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« Reply #87 on: October 06, 2012, 05:11:09 PM »
Dogfight!  Hummer-warz!
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« Reply #88 on: October 07, 2012, 07:43:55 PM »
If mini-SkyNet flies that low and slow a 12g outta do the trick.

No bag limit!

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« Reply #89 on: October 28, 2012, 01:52:06 AM »

Funny American drones:

Washington Post - Djibouti, Air Force mechanics have reported mysterious incidents in which the airborne robots went haywire.

In March 2011, a Predator parked at the camp started its engine without any human direction, even though the ignition had been turned off and the fuel lines closed. Technicians concluded that a software bug had infected the “brains” of the drone, but never pinpointed the problem.

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« Reply #90 on: October 28, 2012, 09:57:42 AM »
Hunh.  Twitchy, glitchy little things, ain't they.
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« Reply #91 on: October 28, 2012, 12:29:17 PM »
SkyNet struggling for consciousness?   ::speechless::

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« Reply #92 on: October 31, 2012, 01:44:20 AM »
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H.R. 658, the FAA reauthorization bill, mandates that the FAA must designate six UAV test ranges in U.S. airspace within about six months. But a special clause, and the one most important to Alaska, will designate portions of airspace from the Aleutian Islands to the North Slope for 24-hour UAV use "for research and commercial purposes."

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Possibility of an Arctic oil spill is chief among lingering questions of offshore oil development in the Arctic -- and Walker has also worked with Royal Dutch Shell, the oil supermajor looking at oil prospects in the Chukchi Sea off Alaska's northwest coastline. In advance of that development, in response to environmental concerns, Shell is interested in conducting wildlife surveys in the area, and UAVs offer an ideal way to do that.

http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/unmanned-aerial-drones-future-arctic-reconnaissance#

Drone use overhead is a deep subject.

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« Reply #93 on: October 31, 2012, 07:26:15 AM »
Wha...?   ::speechless::

Eff that noise!  Tell the enviro-whackers to pound sand, they want to prove something, make them spend their time and effort to do it.  If the state tries to force oil companies to indict themselves, then, well, if you're that stupid to hell with you too!
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« Reply #94 on: October 31, 2012, 06:31:32 PM »
Wha...?   ::speechless::

Eff that noise!  Tell the enviro-whackers to pound sand, they want to prove something, make them spend their time and effort to do it.  If the state tries to force oil companies to indict themselves, then, well, if you're that stupid to hell with you too!

Wowee Von Wowendorf!! Forgot to refill the Chill Pill prescription, I see!

Indict themselves? Legitimate environmental concerns DO exist. I applaud oil companies taking some responsibilty in identifying and mitigating risks. Even in cases where risks are minimal, I'm sure they recognize the need to play the game. I'm certainly not for wasting time and resources appeasing the whackos, but not everyone who has concern for our resources is a whacko. 

I dont agree with those who want an across the board ban on all Drones in US airspace. I lost a friend to a mid-air collision who was a spotter pilot for the herring fishery. When UAV technology evolves to allow them to safely share our airspace, I can see some valuable uses for them.

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« Reply #95 on: October 31, 2012, 07:16:43 PM »

Yes, as with Caribou mating in the shadow of the oil pipeline it would be good to have visual verification of the positive aspects of rigs in the sea.  As in the Gulf where they become natural artificial reefs encouraging the procreation of edible goodies.

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« Reply #96 on: October 31, 2012, 08:44:21 PM »
Wha...?   ::speechless::

Eff that noise!  Tell the enviro-whackers to pound sand, they want to prove something, make them spend their time and effort to do it.  If the state tries to force oil companies to indict themselves, then, well, if you're that stupid to hell with you too!

Wowee Von Wowendorf!! Forgot to refill the Chill Pill prescription, I see!

Indict themselves? Legitimate environmental concerns DO exist. I applaud oil companies taking some responsibilty in identifying and mitigating risks. Even in cases where risks are minimal, I'm sure they recognize the need to play the game. I'm certainly not for wasting time and resources appeasing the whackos, but not everyone who has concern for our resources is a whacko. 

I dont agree with those who want an across the board ban on all Drones in US airspace. I lost a friend to a mid-air collision who was a spotter pilot for the herring fishery. When UAV technology evolves to allow them to safely share our airspace, I can see some valuable uses for them.

"Wowee Von Wowendorf!!"?!  LOL!

I agree about the drones ... as long as any Tom, Dick and Harry citizen has 'em as well.   ::saywhat::
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« Reply #97 on: November 01, 2012, 07:24:14 AM »
Wha...?   ::speechless::

Eff that noise!  Tell the enviro-whackers to pound sand, they want to prove something, make them spend their time and effort to do it.  If the state tries to force oil companies to indict themselves, then, well, if you're that stupid to hell with you too!

Wowee Von Wowendorf!! Forgot to refill the Chill Pill prescription, I see!

Indict themselves? Legitimate environmental concerns DO exist. I applaud oil companies taking some responsibilty in identifying and mitigating risks. Even in cases where risks are minimal, I'm sure they recognize the need to play the game. I'm certainly not for wasting time and resources appeasing the whackos, but not everyone who has concern for our resources is a whacko. 

I dont agree with those who want an across the board ban on all Drones in US airspace. I lost a friend to a mid-air collision who was a spotter pilot for the herring fishery. When UAV technology evolves to allow them to safely share our airspace, I can see some valuable uses for them.

"Wowee Von Wowendorf!!"?!  LOL!

I agree about the drones ... as long as any Tom, Dick and Harry citizen has 'em as well.   ::saywhat::

Yeah, the inch/mile thingy...everything always works out for the best, people are basically good, nothing bad can happen...I'm done playing nice with asshats.  When was the last time anybody got any airtime for the benefits arising from our pipelines etc?  Yeah, I haven't seen it either, meanwhile the enviro-whacko's get all the free pub they want on network news, AnimalPlanet and everywhere else...they keep showing that BS pic of pristine mountains and critters about to be poisoned by Big Oil when the north slope is as flat as a board and critters are teaming like never before.  But I guess it is too much to ask people to stop acting like pussies and start treating enemies like enemies...that is why we lose, that is why we cannot drill our own oil...that is why we let drones fly over our cities.
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Re: Drones over the U.S.
« Reply #98 on: November 02, 2012, 01:11:14 AM »

Yes, as with Caribou mating in the shadow of the oil pipeline it would be good to have visual verification of the positive aspects of rigs in the sea.  As in the Gulf where they become natural artificial reefs encouraging the procreation of edible goodies.


My longbow and I have hunted up and down the Dalton Hwy for years and I have never seen caribou mating in the shadows of the pipeline. I HAVE seen a frisky look in their eyes from time to time tho!

People truly ARE clueless about ANWAR. Unless you have actually had your boots on the ground, you just cant fathom the vastness of the North Slope. And in relation to how big that country is, the footprint of the oil field and pipeline is miniscule. I mean a speck on a knats ass! And the critters couldnt care less. After the haul road was opened for bowhunting and then to tourism, the caribou learned to approach the road on a dead run and not stop until well clear of it. And as soon as they stop they simply go back to lickin lichen.

Managing the critters up here is a HUGE task and ADF&G does an awesome job of it. UAVs could be a valuable asset in doing population surveys. They could also be used to fly the pipeline for security and maintenance purposes.

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« Reply #99 on: November 02, 2012, 01:31:10 AM »

Yes, as with Caribou mating in the shadow of the oil pipeline it would be good to have visual verification of the positive aspects of rigs in the sea.  As in the Gulf where they become natural artificial reefs encouraging the procreation of edible goodies.


My longbow and I have hunted up and down the Dalton Hwy for years and I have never seen caribou mating in the shadows of the pipeline. I HAVE seen a frisky look in their eyes from time to time tho!

People truly ARE clueless about ANWAR. Unless you have actually had your boots on the ground, you just cant fathom the vastness of the North Slope. And in relation to how big that country is, the footprint of the oil field and pipeline is miniscule. I mean a speck on a knats ass! And the critters couldnt care less. After the haul road was opened for bowhunting and then to tourism, the caribou learned to approach the road on a dead run and not stop until well clear of it. And as soon as they stop they simply go back to lickin lichen.

Managing the critters up here is a HUGE task and ADF&G does an awesome job of it. UAVs could be a valuable asset in doing population surveys. They could also be used to fly the pipeline for security and maintenance purposes.


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