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Re: Drones over the U.S.
« Reply #160 on: February 27, 2013, 10:19:28 PM »
Begun the drone wars have.

Oh, and ahh, I dunno, do we thank AP & AQ for providing this list to us?

http://hosted.ap.org/specials/interactives/_international/_pdfs/al-qaida-papers-drones.pdf


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-27/rand-paul-cia-can-you-kill-drones-usa

Rand Paul’s Third Letter to the CIA: Can You Kill with Drones in the USA? ...
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Do you believe that the President has the power to authorize lethal force, such as a drone strike, against a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil, and without trial?

This should not be a complicated question to answer, yet it seems Obama, Brennan and pretty much every other little power consumed bureaucrat is...

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« Reply #161 on: February 28, 2013, 07:29:43 AM »
The Stealth Muzzie will blow him off, Rand knows this and this could all be nothing than CYA.

We know what the amswer should be, the constitution demands the right answer be given, but it won't, and evil will be allowed to continue its mayhem across the land.

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« Reply #162 on: March 01, 2013, 10:52:30 PM »

China's Drones which includes a link parade of world class drones.

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So if there is an alarm bell worth ringing about the emergence of Chinese UAVs, it is probably not the threat they will pose to the U.S. or Japan in the Asia-Pacific – it is the proliferation to the developing world of armed, unmanned systems that China’s low prices, and even lower export barriers, may soon begin to drive.

China expanding it's arms offering to third world buggers.
Helping them kill each other, well, it's an evil thing but it couldn't happen to a needier group.

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« Reply #163 on: March 02, 2013, 07:36:00 PM »
Homeland Security's specifications say drones must be able to detect whether a civilian is armed. Also specified: "signals interception" and "direction finding" for electronic surveillance.


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The documents show that CBP specified that the "tracking accuracy should be sufficient to allow target designation," and the agency notes on its Web site that its Predator B series is capable of "targeting and weapons delivery" (the military version carries multiple 100-pound Hellfire missiles). CBP says, however, that its Predator aircraft are unarmed.
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CBP's specifications say that signals interception and direction-finding technology must work from 30MHz to 3GHz in the radio spectrum. That sweeps in the GSM and CDMA frequencies used by mobile phones, which are in the 300MHz to 2.7GHz range, as well as many two-way radios.

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« Reply #164 on: March 02, 2013, 09:35:03 PM »
Drones can be hacked. It's been done. It will be done again when it is necessary.
In a doomsday scenario, hippies will be among the first casualties. So not everything about doomsday will be bad.

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Re: Drones over the U.S.
« Reply #165 on: March 03, 2013, 10:57:22 AM »
I would like some jam on drones, and a bourbon chaser.
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Re: Drones over the U.S.
« Reply #166 on: March 05, 2013, 06:40:02 AM »
It's a bird!  It's a plane!  It's a fully-armed Predator drone coming for our asses!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-04/drones-take-manhattan
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« Reply #167 on: March 05, 2013, 10:05:23 AM »

During the apocalypse those week end air antiques will called into duty one more time.

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« Reply #168 on: March 05, 2013, 11:14:58 AM »
Might need a bunch of flares & Molotov cocktails too, might mess up their IR & FLIR.   ::evil::
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« Reply #169 on: March 05, 2013, 10:52:04 PM »

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-05/dear-american-its-extraordinary-circumstance-and-drones-coming-you


    Dear Senator Paul,

    On February 20, 2013, you write to John Brennan requesting additional information concerning the administration's views about whether "the President has the power to authorize lethal force, such as a drone strike, against a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil, and without trial."


    As members of this Administration have previously indicated, the US government has not carried out drone strikes in the United States and have no intention of doing so. As a policy matter, moreover, we reject the use of military force where well-established law enforcement authorities in this country provide the best means for incapacitating a terrorist threat. We have a long history of using the criminal justice system to incapacitate individuals located in our country who pose a threat to the United States and its interests abroad. Hundreds of individual have been arrested and convicted of terrorism-related offenses in our federal courts.



    The question you have posed is entirely hypothetical, unlikely to occur and we hope no president will ever have to confront. It is possible, I suppose, to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the President to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States. For example, the president could  conceivably have no choice but to authorize the military to use such force if necessary to protect the homeland in the circumstances of a catastrophic attack like the ones suffered on Dec. 7, 1941 and Sept. 11, 2001.


    Were such an emergency to arise, I would examine the particular facts and circumstances before advising the President on the scope of his authority.

     

    Sincerely,

   
    Eric Holder,
    Attorney General

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« Reply #170 on: March 06, 2013, 07:20:00 AM »

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-05/dear-american-its-extraordinary-circumstance-and-drones-coming-you


    Dear Senator Paul,

    On February 20, 2013, you write to John Brennan requesting additional information concerning the administration's views about whether "the President has the power to authorize lethal force, such as a drone strike, against a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil, and without trial."


    As members of this Administration have previously indicated, the US government has not carried out drone strikes in the United States and have no intention of doing so. As a policy matter, moreover, we reject the use of military force where well-established law enforcement authorities in this country provide the best means for incapacitating a terrorist threat. We have a long history of using the criminal justice system to incapacitate individuals located in our country who pose a threat to the United States and its interests abroad. Hundreds of individual have been arrested and convicted of terrorism-related offenses in our federal courts.



    The question you have posed is entirely hypothetical, unlikely to occur and we hope no president will ever have to confront. It is possible, I suppose, to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the President to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States. For example, the president could  conceivably have no choice but to authorize the military to use such force if necessary to protect the homeland in the circumstances of a catastrophic attack like the ones suffered on Dec. 7, 1941 and Sept. 11, 2001.

    Were such an emergency to arise, I would examine the particular facts and circumstances before advising the President on the scope of his authority.

    

    Sincerely,

  
    Eric Holder,
    Attorney General


Translation - We are busy ttrying to manufacture events to give us the pretext to seize this authority and implement our Final Solution and create the nation we all long for.
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Re: Drones over the U.S.
« Reply #171 on: March 11, 2013, 11:35:08 AM »
Sadly, it may take a mid-air collision with one of these that gets people to question their use, not that the Democratic-Media Complex wouldn't bury the UAV angle and replace it with a "crazed right-wing Tea Party whack job" did it with a rocket launcher false flag op of some sort.

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http://www.infowars.com/second-drone-spotted-over-new-york/
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Re: Drones over the U.S.
« Reply #172 on: March 20, 2013, 09:36:18 PM »
Ah yes, the 'ol DC shell game, that'll fool the people!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03/19/exclusive-no-more-drones-for-cia.html

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Re: Drones over the U.S.
« Reply #173 on: March 26, 2013, 07:00:04 AM »
And then there is this from the leader of one of our largest urban zoo's - “The argument against using automation, it’s this craziness– oh, it’s Big Brother. Get used to it.”

Drones, cameras, any and all manner of privacy invasions and any and all manner of eradicating Constitutional rights of the individual is all good, just get used to it commoners, or no safety & security for you!

Now, bow and thank me!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-25/mayor-bloomberg-drones-oh-its-big-brother-get-used-it

My God, when is this trash going to be dealt with?!

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Re: Drones over the U.S.
« Reply #174 on: March 26, 2013, 10:19:20 AM »
And then there is this from the leader of one of our largest urban zoo's - “The argument against using automation, it’s this craziness– oh, it’s Big Brother. Get used to it.”

Drones, cameras, any and all manner of privacy invasions and any and all manner of eradicating Constitutional rights of the individual is all good, just get used to it commoners, or no safety & security for you!

Now, bow and thank me!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-25/mayor-bloomberg-drones-oh-its-big-brother-get-used-it

My God, when is this trash going to be dealt with?!

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Re: Drones over the U.S.
« Reply #175 on: March 26, 2013, 11:37:41 AM »
And then there is this from the leader of one of our largest urban zoo's - “The argument against using automation, it’s this craziness– oh, it’s Big Brother. Get used to it.”

Drones, cameras, any and all manner of privacy invasions and any and all manner of eradicating Constitutional rights of the individual is all good, just get used to it commoners, or no safety & security for you!

Now, bow and thank me!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-25/mayor-bloomberg-drones-oh-its-big-brother-get-used-it

My God, when is this trash going to be dealt with?!

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  When the tech bites them in the ass it will be all about the right to their privacy and the injustice of it all.

Too bad the stupid bastards are unable to recognize that condition is called "to fvcking late" ahead of time!  So I can only conclude they want it no matter the cost.

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Re: Drones over the U.S.
« Reply #176 on: April 23, 2013, 08:55:08 PM »
From filibuster to fold...awesome.

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/04/23/ron_paul_fans_furious_over_rand_pauls_drone_flip_flop

PaulBots never liked Rand...ever, that I can tell...and while Rand is trying to define specific and limited instances he still should know better...once the statist camel gets his nose under the tent his ass isn't far behind and any limitation has been rendered moot.

Way to go Rand...you jerked a knot in your own tail quite nicely.

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Re: Drones over the U.S.
« Reply #177 on: May 03, 2013, 12:56:23 PM »




VIDEO: Insect Sized Drone Takes Flight -  Here

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« Reply #178 on: May 03, 2013, 01:02:23 PM »




VIDEO: Insect Sized Drone Takes Flight -  Here


They're gonna need some long cables to control those things.  If they can micro size computers then maybe.
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