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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2011, 11:35:15 AM »
Quote from: Charles Oakwood on March 19, 2011, 11:23:57 AM

Video and audio, back then for sure, is not done at the same time.  They do each separately then the engineer/producers put them together.  If it's live it's done as what is referred to today as lip sink.  Live performance, actual, was rare.

The "set" would necessarily have to be as secure as a recording booth.

I know, but this video really redlined my BS meter.  They really look like they're using their instruments as props.  

I'm not a musician, so I can't vouch for the guitar and bass player.  Maybe IDP can fill us in.  I've never seen a "drum kit" quite like that, though.  One bass drum and one tom-tom?  And the guy is standing.  How is he playing the bass drum, by telepathy?

And prove to me that there's actually a keyboard behind that box.   ;D
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2011, 11:52:39 AM »
Quote from: rickl on March 19, 2011, 11:35:15 AM
Quote from: Charles Oakwood on March 19, 2011, 11:23:57 AM

Video and audio, back then for sure, is not done at the same time.  They do each separately then the engineer/producers put them together.  If it's live it's done as what is referred to today as lip sink.  Live performance, actual, was rare.

The "set" would necessarily have to be as secure as a recording booth.

I know, but this video really redlined my BS meter.  They really look like they're using their instruments as props.  

I'm not a musician, so I can't vouch for the guitar and bass player.  Maybe IDP can fill us in.  I've never seen a "drum kit" quite like that, though.  One bass drum and one tom-tom?  And the guy is standing.  How is he playing the bass drum, by telepathy?

No question that they're lip-synching - badly. As far as whether they actually know how to play their instruments, it's hard to tell. They certainly aren't making any effort to make it appear as if they're actually playing the song. Not even during the keyboard solo, where they show the hands, do the hands match the notes being played. And you never see the guitar player's left hand, only rigorous strumming that doesn't fit what you hear. Standing drum kits were unusual, but more common in those days. But the drummer's motions have no relation whatsoever to what the drums are doing. He actually "hits" air-cymbals several times. The bass player is the only one who looks comfortable with the instrument. The way he's holding it, the angle of his right wrist is very typical for bass players. But there again, you only get very brief glimpses at the left hand.

Jury's out on whether they CAN play the song. But no question that they are NOT coming close to going through he motions to make it appear as if they are playing the song correctly.
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2011, 12:06:37 PM »
Thanks for clearing that up, IDP.

I know that lip-synching was commonplace for TV appearances back in the 60s.  I remember seeing a photo of the Beatles on a TV show where there were no amps or wires on stage.  They were holding electric guitars that were not connected to anything.  But we know that they could play their instruments, or at least go through the motions in that case.
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2011, 12:12:11 PM »
Oh heck, while we're at it, here's one of my favorite YouTube videos:

Stairway To Heaven - The Beatnix
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2011, 12:40:47 PM »
I guess I am too young and too old for this thread!

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ETA - If it's gotta be about Friday, this annoys me the least...

The Cure - Friday Im In Love
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2011, 12:58:14 PM »
Quote from: Libertas on March 19, 2011, 12:40:47 PM
I guess I am too young and too old for this thread!

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All right, how's this for a palate cleanser?  I saw this at American Digest awhile back, and recently dug it up for a comment at Transterrestrial Musings.  The drummer, Joe Morello, died a few days ago at age 82.

This was a 1964 TV appearance, and I'm pretty sure they weren't lip-synching.  Watch it in full-screen mode.

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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2011, 01:12:03 PM »
That is definitely a live performance. One cool thing about that is the consistency of meter from beginning to end. Meter is one of those things that separates bad drummers from good, and good from great (meter being measured in beats-per-minute and time-division consistency throughout). A drummer's meter can make an entire band sound locked-in tight, or elastic and disjointed, no matter how great the rest of the musicians are. A drummer has to have at least some meter ability, or songs inevitably begin at one pace and end at another (see; Lars Ulrich, Metallica for a quintessential example of horrendous live-performance meter).

This cat Joe Morello maintains meter in a 5/4 song (very unusual time signature) throughout all the free-form improv riffing and even a drum solo, and when the song and its identifiable melody kick back in towards the end, you can A/B between the beginning and the end and there is absolutely no variation in the meter. Without verifying with some of my audio software I would say that it is exact to the beats-per-minute. (I have impeccable meter, and can hear the slightest variations)
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2011, 01:30:39 PM »
Yeah, no lip-synching, check.

Not a bad drummer though...but as far as drums go, a few years later, this may be the one I remember the best...6:30 mark of first link...

In A Gadda Da Vida - Iron Buttefly I

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Re: It's Friday
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2011, 10:51:38 AM »
"Friday, friday ....".

*sigh*  It doesn't have to be good music for it to get stuck in yer head ....

Thanks, IDP; I owe ya one.
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2011, 11:00:14 AM »
Quote from: Pandora on March 20, 2011, 10:51:38 AM
"Friday, friday ....".

*sigh*  It doesn't have to be good music for it to get stuck in yer head ....

Thanks, IDP; I owe ya one.

I owe myself one.  ::whatgives:: It's the first damn thing that popped into my head this AM when I woke up. My older boy works at a local hotel water park, and he said that the teenagers have been singing it incessantly for three days. For better or worse (or neither), the "phenomenon" (for lack of a better word) of this song has been absorbed into the popular culture.

ETA: 26,020,797 YouTube views and counting....
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2011, 11:04:55 AM »
Quote from: IronDioPriest on March 20, 2011, 11:00:14 AM
Quote from: Pandora on March 20, 2011, 10:51:38 AM
"Friday, friday ....".

*sigh*  It doesn't have to be good music for it to get stuck in yer head ....

Thanks, IDP; I owe ya one.

I owe myself one.  ::whatgives:: It's the first damn thing that popped into my head this AM when I woke up. My older boy works at a local hotel water park, and he said that the teenagers have been singing it incessantly for three days. For better or worse (or neither), the "phenomenon" (for lack of a better word) of this song has been absorbed into the popular culture.

ETA: 26,020,797 YouTube views and counting....

LOL!  Good!  That's what ya get ....

26 MILLION .... Hoo boy.....
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2011, 11:15:55 AM »
#19 most downloaded song on iTunes. The girl's gonna make some ching.

Now let's hope that she and her parents are wise enough to invest it in something other than a music career.
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2011, 11:20:11 AM »
Quote from: IronDioPriest on March 20, 2011, 11:15:55 AM
#19 most downloaded song on iTunes. The girl's gonna make some ching.

Good grief.

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Now let's hope that she and her parents are wise enough to invest it in something other than a music career.

I'm afraid this will only encourage her.  She's doing pretty well so far.

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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2011, 11:23:41 AM »
Quote from: IronDioPriest on March 20, 2011, 11:15:55 AM
#19 most downloaded song on iTunes. The girl's gonna make some ching.

Now let's hope that she and her parents are wise enough to invest it in something other than a music career.
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2011, 12:28:46 AM »
Zombie weighs in.  Lots of comments, too.

I had no idea this was such a phenomenon.  I'm living in my own little world here.
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2011, 12:47:17 AM »
Quote from: Charles Oakwood on March 18, 2011, 08:18:16 PM

It like sucks dude, no body piercings, no tattoos, no semi nudity, no vulgarity, no girl on girl or even girl on guy, wow; it's really nowhere. These people are like geek you know. Totally.
  

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I think “Friday” is popular with the 10-to-14-year-old crowd specifically because its lyrics are completely innocent and unsophisticated. Kids are sick of being barraged with sexuality and violence and cynicism. At last, for the first time in a long time, a pop song for kids is not about humping or angst. Kids just want to be kids! And Rebecca Black is their new guide.

I'll take it.

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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2011, 09:22:32 AM »
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2011, 09:23:55 AM »
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 How much does this kid stand to make?
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