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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2012, 12:11:23 PM »
Absolutely horrible. Why can't these lunatics ever just kill themselves and be done with it? They always do that in the end anyway. Well, the 2nd Amendment now stands no chance IMO. At the very least the AWB and mag capacity limits are coming back.
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2012, 12:53:22 PM »
Precious children, babies whom the world has not corrupted yet, gone at the hand of a freaking sociopath.  I have no words... just full of anger and despair.

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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2012, 01:08:29 PM »
makes me sick


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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2012, 01:17:50 PM »
Reports are now that an entire kindergarten class was murdered. Every single child in the class.  Yeah, sweeping new gun legislation is a certainty.


ETA - and yes LV you are exactly right. Evil is the world for it. Demonic evil. This and so many other things lately -- the Aurora shootings, the bath salt cannibals, and on and on. We are a diseased society at the very core.
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2012, 01:25:08 PM »
If only there was a law against such a heinous act.

Oh wait, there is: Thou shalt not murder.

Obey that one law, all else is academic.
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2012, 01:30:25 PM »
Reports are now that an entire kindergarten class was murdered. Every single child in the class.  Yeah, sweeping new gun legislation is a certainty.


ETA - and yes LV you are exactly right. Evil is the world for it. Demonic evil. This and so many other things lately -- the Aurora shootings, the bath salt cannibals, and on and on. We are a diseased society at the very core.

The same people who were willing to implement "Fast and Furious" are still in charge.  Do you think they would stop short of murdering a bunch 5-6 year olds  to get their way? (Remember these people  believe in taxpayer funded  abortion) Feeding some kid a psychotropic drug and pointing them at a school whould be what? Too evil? For them?  It could be the stress of the times is bringing this out. Or it could be that they are making the crazy happen.  No clear motives have surfaced in the Batman case, nor in the Washington Mall case - but I will tell you what all three of these have in common.. An AR-15.  

Worried about your kids?  Don't put them in a gun free zone.  Demand teachers undergo swat training and be armed at all times so they can protect your children.


 
 
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2012, 01:41:39 PM »
But Weisshaupt; protecting children from crazed gunmen with deadly force is extremism.
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2012, 01:43:30 PM »
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If only there was a law against such a heinous act.

Oh wait, there is: Thou shalt not murder.

Obey that one law, all else is academic.

Might I suggest the entire series of Ten Commandments?  Starting at the top?

It occurred to me that if one finds it easy to disobey one then obedience to any others is in danger.



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Worried about your kids?  Don't put them in a gun free zone.  Demand teachers undergo swat training and be armed at all times so they can protect your children.


Honestly, if I didn't homeschool I'd have a really hard time sending my kids off to school everyday after something like this.  But I can't say that outloud.  I'd be declared a nut for not being willing to sacrifice my kids to the gods of education who are unable and unwilling to protect them physically and mentally.
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2012, 01:51:44 PM »
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But I can't say that outloud.  I'd be declared a nut for not being willing to sacrifice my kids to the gods of education who are unable and unwilling to protect them physically and mentally.

Izzat so?

Well, I suggest you make several copies of the following piece and hand them out to anyone declaring you "a nut":

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/12/ending_progressive_public_education.html

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Why do parents willingly (or reluctantly, for that matter) send their own children -- their own future -- to socialist reeducation camps? "From my cold, dead hands," they proudly say of their guns. Are not their children worthy of at least so strong a grip?
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2012, 02:08:20 PM »

Honestly, if I didn't homeschool I'd have a really hard time sending my kids off to school everyday after something like this.  But I can't say that outloud.  I'd be declared a nut for not being willing to sacrifice my kids to the gods of education who are unable and unwilling to protect them physically and mentally.

... hang in there.  In '97 when I decided to homeschool my three kids, the things I had said to me, from family members even, were unreal.  Now, I'm done, kids all grown and 'out in the real world' and OH MY GOSH how the tables have turned.  NOW all I hear is what wonderful adults they are, and how I did such a 'good job', etc... ;)  Hang in there.  Do what you know to be right and all will be well.

As I'm sure you know:  Proverbs 22:6  Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2012, 03:29:35 PM »
Reports are now that an entire kindergarten class was murdered. Every single child in the class.  Yeah, sweeping new gun legislation is a certainty.


ETA - and yes LV you are exactly right. Evil is the world for it. Demonic evil. This and so many other things lately -- the Aurora shootings, the bath salt cannibals, and on and on. We are a diseased society at the very core.

Looks like Obongo's wanting to invoke his idea of "coming together" --

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An emotional President Barack Obama spoke about the massacre at the White House Friday. Fighting back tears, he said he reacted to the news not just as the president, but as a parent.

“The majority of those who died today are children. Beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10-years-old,” he said. “They had their entire lives ahead of them. Birthdays, graduations, weddings, kids of their own.”

At times, Obama wiped away tears from the corner of his eyes, adding ”Our hearts are broken.”

“As a country, we have been through this too many times,” he said. “These children are our children and we are going to come together to take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this regardless of the politics.”

Not "we must"; "WE ARE".  And these are not "our" children, which is to say "his" children; his children look like Trayvon Martin.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/14/police-respond-to-report-of-school-shooting-in-conn/

The 24 year old mass murderer killed his mother, a teacher at the school, his father at home, and his brother is in custody.
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2012, 03:48:22 PM »
The 2nd Amendment was the last thing they needed to dismantle. It's going to finally happen now. Nothing they do will have any impact on evil, because evil hearts always find ways of wreaking sadistic malice (the bow and arrow murder in Wyoming a few weeks back), but we inhabit a world where truth and fact are not a defense. How do you win such arguments, where truth and reality are of no importance?

I am uncomfortable discussing the subject in the wake of things like this, because I don't like the thought of politics coming to the fore as a classroom of kindergartners lie dead. But for the Left, nothing is too unseemly to politicize, so what choice do we have? Why is liberty such a hard case to make anymore? I grow weary of having to constantly wade into arguments we have no hope of winning because they are purely emotion based. The tragedy is real for these children and their parents, most of whom now probably would rather be dead themselves rather than go on after what happened this morning.

But with that said, I am nevertheless filled with dread over the implications. We are about to see the last constitutional safeguard gutted. There are very bad things in store.
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2012, 05:10:19 PM »
The 2nd amendment will be gutted but this type of behavior won't stop, cause its never the gun. It's the individual. It's the environment, IMO created by liberal thought, which is the cause.
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2012, 05:30:11 PM »
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At times, Obama wiped away tears from the corner of his eyes, adding ”Our hearts are broken.”

Obama had been promised that the killer would kill two kindergarten classes, and was disappointed only one was murdered.

As my friend said " If this doesn't result in gun legislation there will be more school shooting until it does"

 It matters little if this is because of a deliberate false flag, or simply because liberals have destroyed the society to the point where young men can come to the point where they commit such atrocities. The liberals are at fault because they are immoral and evil through and through.   When they try to gut the 2nd, the war will start, just as the English marching on the armory at Concorde started that war. 

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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2012, 05:39:37 PM »
The 2nd amendment will be gutted but this type of behavior won't stop, cause its never the gun. It's the individual.

The individual and liberalism is spot on.

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A Guangshan county hospital administrator said the man first attacked an elderly woman, then students, before being subdued by security guards who have been posted across China following a spate of school attacks in recent years. He said there were no deaths among the nine students admitted, although two badly injured children had been transferred to better-equipped hospitals outside the county.

The Chinese will be working on knife collection next.
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2012, 05:46:03 PM »
The 2nd amendment will be gutted but this type of behavior won't stop, cause its never the gun. It's the individual.

The individual and liberalism is spot on.

Chnese stabbing spree hurts 22 children
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A Guangshan county hospital administrator said the man first attacked an elderly woman, then students, before being subdued by security guards who have been posted across China following a spate of school attacks in recent years. He said there were no deaths among the nine students admitted, although two badly injured children had been transferred to better-equipped hospitals outside the county.

The Chinese will be working on knife collection next.

I cited that on my local forum.  One of the Lefties wrote:  "at least none of the children died".

Oh.  Well.  That's okay then; let's ban us some guns.

The world has gone (and I see it running rampant in this formerly sane country of ours) batsht fcking INSANE.  Some days, it makes the rest of us -- ::waving:: -- question our own sanity.

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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2012, 05:55:23 PM »
i wish it was as simple as banning guns.............................


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« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2012, 06:26:12 PM »
Update:  father not dead, it was the mother killed in the house.
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Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2012, 06:46:50 PM »
The loss of a child is one of the hardest and most awful things one can go through. I know how much it effected me.

But to see your precious little babies destroyed by such evil breaks and hurts my heart that I cannot commit any further but to say a prayer to my Savior and Lord for the families. I pray I do not have to much to drink tonight. 

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