Author Topic: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school  (Read 22786 times)

0 Members and 6 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Libertas

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 67914
  • Alea iacta est! Libertatem aut mori!
Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #120 on: December 18, 2012, 07:16:46 AM »
Yes, Trap, I'd love to see the debate thrust into those quarters, and I think the abortion angle is especially vulnerable for the Left, where is the compassion and concern for life there, eh?
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

Offline Libertas

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 67914
  • Alea iacta est! Libertatem aut mori!
Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #121 on: December 18, 2012, 07:33:15 AM »
FYI - Only 200 showed up on NRA doorstep.  And I bet 175 were media people.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/12/200-progressives-march-on-nra-headquarters-in-washington-dc/

FAIL!   ::mooning::

Check this out - moonbat Prof at URI goes apesh*t and call for LaPierre's head on a stick!

http://weaselzippers.us/2012/12/17/university-of-rhode-island-professor-calls-for-killing-of-nra-ceo-wayne-lapierre/

No news of any arrests, must be a free speech thing, eh?  Well here's free speech - Loomis the Tard is wrong, the Left killed those children!  The school promised to educate those kids in a safe environment, don't they tell us schools are a "safe zone", no guns allowed, simple, right?  Oops, a bunch of kids were gunned down!  I guess somebody there blew it and failed to keep kids safe, the school district should be sued into non-existence for failing to arm school officials or hire armed guards, they are negligent, the policies of the Left regarding the treatment of mentally unstable failed, the policies of the Left to protect these declared "safe zones" failed, the unions did nothing to protect kids or their own members, THEY ALL FAILED!!!

It is your head Mr. Loomis that should be on a stick, with every leftist idiot like you lined up in pretty little rows!

Oh, and another angle on the asshat unions - “Firearms have absolutely no place in our schools"

http://weaselzippers.us/2012/12/17/teacher-union-chief-sandy-hook-shooting-proves-teachers-shouldnt-have-guns/

Then you and your union and all its members are guilty before the fact of endangering kids and teachers to certain death because criminals DO NOT CARE ABOUT RESPECTING YOUR EMPTY WORD "SAFE ZONES"!!!
« Last Edit: December 18, 2012, 07:36:32 AM by Libertas »
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

Offline Glock32

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 8747
  • Get some!
Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #122 on: December 18, 2012, 10:19:37 AM »
Quote
Yes, this is 21st-century America. Where we have better means to treat mental illness than ever before, but choose to let the insane people decide to get it or not. Where we supposedly deinstitutionalized the mentally ill by closing down psychiatric hospitals, and then reinstitutionalized them behind bars. The number of psychiatric beds on a per capita basis is back at 1850 levels, and there are three times as many seriously mentally ill people in jail or prison than in hospitals, according to the Treatment Advocacy Center. Where we let sick people sleep on the streets. About a third of homeless men and two-thirds of homeless women are seriously mentally ill. Imagine the national outrage if people with Alzheimer’s were permitted to wander around the streets uncared for. But, by some perverse logic, it’s considered okay for schizophrenics.

No, that's what passes for left wing policy these days and it's the new normal. Up is down. In is out. Same sh*t, different day.


It also occurs to me that this is yet another example of the Left's time honored tactic of "agitate for policy that creates a brand new problem, then cite that problem as justification for further expansion of government"
"The Fourth Estate is less honorable than the First Profession."

- Yours Truly

Offline Libertas

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 67914
  • Alea iacta est! Libertatem aut mori!
Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #123 on: December 18, 2012, 11:36:12 AM »
Here we go...

http://www.infowars.com/facebook-suspends-account-for-questioning-official-narrative-on-shooting/

Another reason to go tell state-run social media outlets to ESAD!
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

Offline benb61

  • Established Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1450
  • My 2 fast cars
Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #124 on: December 18, 2012, 03:30:20 PM »
Here we go...

http://www.infowars.com/facebook-suspends-account-for-questioning-official-narrative-on-shooting/

Another reason to go tell state-run social media outlets to ESAD!

From the article
Quote
- Initial reports that a “second gunman” arrested in the woods behind the school was involved in the massacre were later dropped without explanation.

Because that second person was the shooters handler and told the shooter that he would be watching and if anything didn't go as planned that people he loved would be harmed.  The cops released him after he showed his DOJ badge.  Of course I'm just guessing at all of this.
Eschew Obfuscation

charlesoakwood

  • Guest
Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #125 on: December 18, 2012, 04:10:04 PM »

Lanza was nuts.
Lanza is the reason for his parents divorce.
Lanza was jealous of the time his mother spent at SH school.
Lanza's mother was in the process of having him committed.
Lanza smashed his hard drive destroying plan information.
Lanza shot up the class his mother spent time with.

He was nuts and his mother could not have him immediately committed.  I believe the following information came from trap:

ETA: Yes, this is the the to it: http://www.aclu.org/organization-news-and-highlights/aclu-history-mental-institutions


The ACLU's most important Supreme Court case involving the rights of people with mental illness was filed on behalf of Kenneth Donaldson, who had been involuntarily confined in a Florida State Hospital for 15 years. He was not dangerous and had received no medical treatment. In a landmark decision for mental health law in 1975, a unanimous Supreme Court ruled that states cannot confine a non-dangerous individual who can survive on his own, or with help from family and friends.

Commentary:
          Sounds good until you realize that "non-dangerous" must be litigated every single time so the default action is to let everyone go.

Which they did in 1980. A lot of mental institutions marched their unclaimed "non-violent" patients down to the local Greyhound bus terminal, picked a destination at random and away they went on a fantastic journey.

Coincidentally, this is the time that the "homeless" problem turned up.



« Last Edit: December 18, 2012, 06:48:45 PM by Charles Oakwood »

Offline Weisshaupt

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 5739

charlesoakwood

  • Guest
Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #127 on: December 18, 2012, 05:34:04 PM »

Well said.

Offline John Florida

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 10059
  • IT'S MY FONT AND I'LL USE IT IF I WANT TO!!
Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #128 on: December 18, 2012, 08:05:41 PM »
  This place was in Newtown Conn. till it closed in 1995,too bad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairfield_State_Hospital
All men are created equal"
 Filippo Mazzie

charlesoakwood

  • Guest
Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #129 on: December 18, 2012, 08:18:47 PM »

"Due to deinstitutionalization in the 1960s and 1970s, there was less of a need for hospitals like Fairfield Hills. With the high cost of running underused hospitals, state hospitals around the country shut their doors. "


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinstitutionalization

Yes sir, it's all good.

Offline LadyVirginia

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 5168
  • Mt. Vernon painting by Francis Jukes
Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #130 on: December 18, 2012, 10:37:55 PM »
Quote
T'was 11 days before Christmas, around 9:38 when 20 beautiful children stormed through heaven's gate.
 
Their smiles were contagious, their laughter filled the air.
 They could hardly believe all the beauty they saw there.
 They were filled with such joy; they didn't know what to say.
They remembered nothing of what had happened earlier that day.
 
“Where are we?" asked a little girl, as quiet as a mouse.
“This is heaven" declared a small boy. "We’re spending Christmas at God's house.”

When what to their wondering eyes did appear,
but Jesus, their savior, the children gathered near.
 He looked at them and smiled, and they smiled just the same.

Then He opened His arms and He called them by name.
And in that moment was joy that only heaven can bring,
 those children all flew into the arms of their King.
 and as they lingered in the warmth of His embrace,
 one small girl turned and looked at Jesus' face.

And as if He could read all the questions she had
 He gently whispered to her, "I'll take care of mom and dad."
 Then He looked down on earth, the world far below,
 He saw all of the hurt, the sorrow, and woe.
 
Then He closed His eyes and He outstretched His hand,
“Let My power and presence re-enter this land!
 
“May this country be delivered from the hands of fools
 “I’m taking back my nation. I'm taking back my schools!"
 Then He and the children stood up without a sound.
 
“Come now my children let me show you around."
 
Excitement filled the space, some skipped and some ran,
 All displaying enthusiasm that only a small child can.

And I heard Him proclaim as He walked out of sight,
“In the midst of this darkness, I AM STILL THE LIGHT."

This is making the rounds. I wasn't able to find the author's name.
"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."

Offline Pandora

  • Administrator
  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 19533
  • I iz also makin a list. U on it pal.
Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #131 on: December 18, 2012, 11:39:00 PM »
 :'(
"Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer." - Mark Twain

"Let us assume for the moment everything you say about me is true. That just makes your problem bigger, doesn't it?"

Offline Libertas

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 67914
  • Alea iacta est! Libertatem aut mori!
Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #132 on: December 19, 2012, 07:44:42 AM »
http://www.blackfive.net/main/



That is such and outstanding idea!  I can hear the rejoinder to libiot refusals now "Why are you against employing veterans and protecting our kids and teachers?  Did you not pormise them and their families that schools are 'safe zones'?  You failed, this is the perfect solution to the problem you created!"

 ::thumbsup::   ::cool::   ::beertoast::   ::newyear::   ::bows::   ::USA::   ::whoohoo::   ::danceban::   ;)   ::bustamove::   ::clapping::
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

Offline LadyVirginia

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 5168
  • Mt. Vernon painting by Francis Jukes
Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #133 on: December 19, 2012, 09:40:54 AM »
Quote
NASHVILLE, Tenn. - After the tragic events at Sandy Hook Elementary School, one local father and former Marine is standing guard at his children's school and parents said he's a welcome addition to the school

http://mobile.newschannel5.com/wap/news/text.jsp?targetUrl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.newschannel5.com%2fstory%2f20376969%2ffather-former-marine-stands-guard-at-elementary-school

unfortunately, he's not armed
"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."

Offline Pandora

  • Administrator
  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 19533
  • I iz also makin a list. U on it pal.
Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #134 on: December 19, 2012, 09:50:01 AM »
Quote
NASHVILLE, Tenn. - After the tragic events at Sandy Hook Elementary School, one local father and former Marine is standing guard at his children's school and parents said he's a welcome addition to the school

http://mobile.newschannel5.com/wap/news/text.jsp?targetUrl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.newschannel5.com%2fstory%2f20376969%2ffather-former-marine-stands-guard-at-elementary-school

unfortunately, he's not armed

Of course he isn't, because some stupid, stupid people cannot and will not distinguish between a gun in the hands of a good guy and one in the hands of a bad guy -- "We cannot allow guns around the children!" -- so what's the friggin point?!

Arm the teachers!
"Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer." - Mark Twain

"Let us assume for the moment everything you say about me is true. That just makes your problem bigger, doesn't it?"

Offline LadyVirginia

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 5168
  • Mt. Vernon painting by Francis Jukes
"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."

Offline IronDioPriest

  • Administrator
  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 10856
  • I refuse to accept my civil servants as my rulers
Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #136 on: December 19, 2012, 11:00:53 AM »
Quote
NASHVILLE, Tenn. - After the tragic events at Sandy Hook Elementary School, one local father and former Marine is standing guard at his children's school and parents said he's a welcome addition to the school

http://mobile.newschannel5.com/wap/news/text.jsp?targetUrl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.newschannel5.com%2fstory%2f20376969%2ffather-former-marine-stands-guard-at-elementary-school

unfortunately, he's not armed

I'll bet he is.
"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

- Thomas Jefferson

Offline Glock32

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 8747
  • Get some!
Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #137 on: December 19, 2012, 11:21:09 AM »
I also suggest we link the "Arm the teachers!" meme with the "Arm the pilots!" discussion following 9/11.  In both scenarios you have basically hundreds of defenseless people contained in a kill zone. I don't care what any leftist morons say, in such a scenario your only chance is if one or more of those people are not so defenseless after all. There is no magical uninventing of firearms, no omnipresent police. The only chance is when would-be victims are able to do more than simply hurl their bodies at the perpetrator.
"The Fourth Estate is less honorable than the First Profession."

- Yours Truly

Offline LadyVirginia

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 5168
  • Mt. Vernon painting by Francis Jukes
Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #138 on: December 19, 2012, 11:25:54 AM »
Quote
NASHVILLE, Tenn. - After the tragic events at Sandy Hook Elementary School, one local father and former Marine is standing guard at his children's school and parents said he's a welcome addition to the school

http://mobile.newschannel5.com/wap/news/text.jsp?targetUrl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.newschannel5.com%2fstory%2f20376969%2ffather-former-marine-stands-guard-at-elementary-school

unfortunately, he's not armed

I'll bet he is.

I had the same thought after I posted.
"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."

Offline Libertas

  • Conservative Superhero
  • *****
  • Posts: 67914
  • Alea iacta est! Libertatem aut mori!
Re: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school
« Reply #139 on: December 19, 2012, 11:28:17 AM »
Under current Texas law, school districts can grant written permission for employees to carry firearms on campus. Harrold ISD, a district in northwest Texas with roughly 100 students, allows teachers to carry concealed handguns under what they call a "Guardian Plan," set up in the wake of the 2007 shooting at Virginia Tech.

David Thewatt, the district's superintendent, told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram that his district did not want a plan where you "lock yourself in your closet and hope that an intruder won't hurt you." As with Villalba's proposal, employees there must be approved by the school district in order to carry a concealed firearm.

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-education/public-education/rep-villalba-allow-teachers-carry-concealed-guns/

And the key is concealed!  Like the Air Marshalls they are most effective when would-be perp's don't know who is packing.  Other than being required to carry concealed and getting permission from the district the only other requirement is that they must use frangible rounds.

Nobody in the MFM is talking about TX and safely carrying in schools...and it is NOT by accident!  It is a deliberate act of obfuscation so their gun-grabbing agenda is the ONLY agenda to be accepted!

Damn them, damn them all to Hell!
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.