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Re: Obama tells man questioning him about high gas prices: Buy a new car
« Reply #100 on: April 12, 2011, 11:39:55 PM »
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Re: Obama tells man questioning him about high gas prices: Buy a new car
« Reply #101 on: April 12, 2011, 11:45:21 PM »

Not semantics.  And, yes, that's right.  You're coming from the point of view beloved by our Halfrican president, whereby the Constitution thoughtlessly neglected the imposition of "positive rights".  Buddy-boy, there ain't no sech thang.  Government doesn't bestow or endow rights, it hasn't the power; it protects those endowed by Our Creator.

I got news for you, Canadian; there is a world of difference between the two and the friggin UN will be the first to validate your erroneous point of view.  In order for the government to bestow "rights" on one, something must be removed, some infringement must be inflicted upon, another.

Bunk and FAIL.

What trail of breadcrumbs led you to our humble abode, btw?

I finally understand the conservative perspective. 2 sentences, describing the same action:
1. The government amended the constitution today to allow African Americans to participate freely in society, and make it illegal to hold them as slaves. They are now able to vote and are considered equal citizens
2. The government amended the constitution today, restricting itself from further denial of god given rights to the African American. With the government no longer in the way, they can now vote and are equal citizens, as they always have been, but not in the eyes of the government.

First off the ridiculous complexity of the 2nd situation is self evident. Second, I get it. God can only give people basic human rights. Not the US government (in your eyes). It boils down to a religious thing, does it not?

As far as this warning..

So I've been given a warning for using a tool on the site, specifically for abuse (I would consider childish name calling a good example) because I'm a tattle tale? Okay then. Oh and it was a moderator who did it.. even funnier. (I also expressed my displeasure for his name calling in the thread but he responded by again calling me a douche bag... lol)

If a liberal isn't welcome here just delete my account. I've been nothing but polite to members here and tried to provide an alternate perspective. One of the admins calling me a douchebag, then, me getting a warning for using the report an abusive post button are stupid games I'm not interested in playing.



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Re: Obama tells man questioning him about high gas prices: Buy a new car
« Reply #102 on: April 12, 2011, 11:47:34 PM »
this is an internet forum dude. a political one. if i knocked over some china many apologies but i didnt personally attack anyone.

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Re: Obama tells man questioning him about high gas prices: Buy a new car
« Reply #103 on: April 12, 2011, 11:48:55 PM »

Not semantics.  And, yes, that's right.  You're coming from the point of view beloved by our Halfrican president, whereby the Constitution thoughtlessly neglected the imposition of "positive rights".  Buddy-boy, there ain't no sech thang.  Government doesn't bestow or endow rights, it hasn't the power; it protects those endowed by Our Creator.

I got news for you, Canadian; there is a world of difference between the two and the friggin UN will be the first to validate your erroneous point of view.  In order for the government to bestow "rights" on one, something must be removed, some infringement must be inflicted upon, another.

Bunk and FAIL.

What trail of breadcrumbs led you to our humble abode, btw?

I finally understand the conservative perspective. 2 sentences, describing the same action:
1. The government amended the constitution today to allow African Americans to participate freely in society, and make it illegal to hold them as slaves. They are now able to vote and are considered equal citizens
2. The government amended the constitution today, restricting itself from further denial of god given rights to the African American. With the government no longer in the way, they can now vote and are equal citizens, as they always have been, but not in the eyes of the government.

First off the ridiculous complexity of the 2nd situation is self evident. Second, I get it. God can only give people basic human rights. Not the US government (in your eyes). It boils down to a religious thing, does it not?

As far as this warning..

So I've been given a warning for using a tool on the site, specifically for abuse (I would consider childish name calling a good example) because I'm a tattle tale? Okay then. Oh and it was a moderator who did it.. even funnier. (I also expressed my displeasure for his name calling in the thread but he responded by again calling me a douche bag... lol)

If a liberal isn't welcome here just delete my account. I've been nothing but polite to members here and tried to provide an alternate perspective. One of the admins calling me a douchebag, then, me getting a warning for using the report an abusive post button are stupid games I'm not interested in playing.



You seem to like that word, "ridiculous"; you wrote it in your very first post here:  "This whole thread is full of ridiculous misguided anger."

Not an auspicious beginning, wouldn't you say, and not particularly polite

Your second included this:  "I'm guilty of that as much as anyone. I paid 50 bucks to tank up my Mazda 3 a month ago ... when I saw the total ring up I looked at the gas pump and muttered "time to bomb Saudia Arabia" after remarking that this was "a conservative-minded site" relating your desire to bomb SA with our conservative-mindedness shaping our responses to the Thug in Chief.  Whups!  Looka that, I did it again!

I'm finding it difficult to fathom you didn't notice IronDioPriest's Admin/Moderator marker, so I see your "report this post" as a divide-and-conquer needle.  I called you out on it. 

I believe it would be better if you sought more fertile fields elsewhere.  Good luck.


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Re: Obama tells man questioning him about high gas prices: Buy a new car
« Reply #104 on: April 12, 2011, 11:49:12 PM »
I get it. God can only give people basic human rights. Not the US government (in your eyes). It boils down to a religious thing, does it not?

In the founding fathers eyes, not just 'our' eyes, as that is what they stated in the Declaration of Independence. Simple English, easy to interpret and understand. Meaning, the government can't take away, assign, or deal in any way, people's rights. Especially, for social justice engineering. That's what obama can't come to grips with, and also communists, marxists, leftists, socialists, welfare-ists.

People that want a 'socialist welfare paradise' should move to a country that is ruled by a communist manifesto; such as Russia?, because those ideas and ideologies are in direct conflict with what our founding fathers wrote in the constitution. You know, the one that you say is so good.

You don't like the idea of man's rights given to us from God? Good. Stay in Canada. Enjoy your rights being bandied about by the whims of your politicians. Good luck with that.


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Re: Obama tells man questioning him about high gas prices: Buy a new car
« Reply #105 on: April 12, 2011, 11:53:40 PM »
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In the founding fathers eyes, not just 'our' eyes, as that is what they stated in the Declaration of Independence. Simple English, easy to interpret and understand. Meaning, the government can't take away, assign, or deal in any way, people's rights.
And yet the took away the rights of an entire race of people, only to have their document amended at a future date to fix their over sight. Right.

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I'm finding it difficult to fathom you didn't notice IronDioPriest's Admin/Moderator marker, so I see your "report this post" as a divide-and-conquer needle.  I called you out on it. 

How is it difficult... it was maybe sandwiched between my 5 or 6th post on this site. I have no clue who anyone is. Divide and conquer? You give me far too much credit. I was simply making use of the report abuse feature. If anything the admin himself should be embarrassed for his behavior on a site he`s supposed to be moderating.

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Re: Obama tells man questioning him about high gas prices: Buy a new car
« Reply #106 on: April 12, 2011, 11:55:33 PM »
That's the sweet irony of it radioman - Canadians don't have any rights. They have privileges extended (for the moment) by government. Don't get me wrong - I love Canadians. Living in a border state we rub elbows all the time. But for one to come in here and lecture any of us about rights and the US Constitution is beyond the pale.

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Re: Obama tells man questioning him about high gas prices: Buy a new car
« Reply #107 on: April 12, 2011, 11:56:20 PM »
...One of the admins calling me a douchebag...

Ooops, I forgot the all-important adjective. "f**king" douchebag.

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Re: Obama tells man questioning him about high gas prices: Buy a new car
« Reply #108 on: April 12, 2011, 11:58:12 PM »
...One of the admins calling me a douchebag...

Ooops, I forgot the all-important adjective. "f**king" douchebag.

I don't know how you could have missed that... ::pokeineye::

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Re: Obama tells man questioning him about high gas prices: Buy a new car
« Reply #109 on: April 12, 2011, 11:59:19 PM »
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In the founding fathers eyes, not just 'our' eyes, as that is what they stated in the Declaration of Independence. Simple English, easy to interpret and understand. Meaning, the government can't take away, assign, or deal in any way, people's rights.
And yet the took away the rights of an entire race of people, only to have their document amended at a future date to fix their over sight. Right.

Not exactly how it happened. Slavery was in existance long before our country was founded. So, the claim that our founding fathers 'took away' anyone's rights is inaccurate, to say it politely. Slavery still exists today in many countries. We corrected a wrong in our country that existed in many places on the face of the Earth.

The founding fathers were about creating a new country. It wasn't about creating an environment 'for' slavery. So, take your strawman and smoke it!

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Re: Obama tells man questioning him about high gas prices: Buy a new car
« Reply #110 on: April 13, 2011, 12:02:38 AM »
That's the sweet irony of it radioman - Canadians don't have any rights. They have privileges extended (for the moment) by government. Don't get me wrong - I love Canadians. Living in a border state we rub elbows all the time. But for one to come in here and lecture any of us about rights and the US Constitution is beyond the pale.

That's right AS!!

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Re: Obama tells man questioning him about high gas prices: Buy a new car
« Reply #111 on: April 13, 2011, 12:05:17 AM »
Slavery began when a strong caveman realized that he could force a weaker one to do his bidding by threatening violence.

It was the norm in human societies across all times and places.  Might makes right.

It was England and the United States who put an end to it in the 19th Century.

But then the leftist totalitarians reinstated it in the 20th Century.
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Re: Obama tells man questioning him about high gas prices: Buy a new car
« Reply #112 on: April 13, 2011, 12:08:16 AM »


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Re: Obama tells man questioning him about high gas prices: Buy a new car
« Reply #113 on: April 13, 2011, 12:08:37 AM »
Slavery began when a strong caveman realized that he could force a weaker one to do his bidding by threatening violence.

It was the norm in human societies across all times and places.  Might makes right.

It was England and the United States who put an end to it in the 19th Century.

But then the leftist totalitarians reinstated it in the 20th Century.

Yeah, and all the obamatites are trying to reinstate it again in this country.  ::evil::
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Re: Obama tells man questioning him about high gas prices: Buy a new car
« Reply #114 on: April 13, 2011, 12:13:32 AM »
Well that was unpleasant  ::hysterical::

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Re: Obama tells man questioning him about high gas prices: Buy a new car
« Reply #115 on: April 13, 2011, 12:22:26 AM »


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Re: Obama tells man questioning him about high gas prices: Buy a new car
« Reply #116 on: April 13, 2011, 12:27:52 AM »
Come on, campers...

....cut the cannuck some slack. There is absolutely no way for him, raised in the great white north, to have any real understanding of our Constitution. Canadians have the same blind spots as the other so-called "free" countries that suck off of the protection provided them by the US military. That would be the same military that they love to bad mouth from the comfort of their socialist paradises. Cracks me up.

More than a few Albertans, though, are conservative. They have gotten more than a little tired of their own entitlement class sucking off of their oil resources. So...this one is either a transplant from BC (Vancouver is teeming with lefties) or from east of Saskatchewan. Ontario is bad. Quebec is chock full of clueless inbred French Canadians and the maritime provinces are completely hopeless.

Either that or he's just mental. But without a doubt he's somewhat uneducated and that's mostly not his fault. Canadian education is big on French language studies. Freedom? Not so much.
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Re: Obama tells man questioning him about high gas prices: Buy a new car
« Reply #117 on: April 13, 2011, 12:42:38 AM »


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Re: Obama tells man questioning him about high gas prices: Buy a new car
« Reply #118 on: April 13, 2011, 12:48:29 AM »
Come on, campers...

....cut the cannuck some slack. There is absolutely no way for him, raised in the great white north, to have any real understanding of our Constitution. Canadians have the same blind spots as the other so-called "free" countries that suck off of the protection provided them by the US military. That would be the same military that they love to bad mouth from the comfort of their socialist paradises. Cracks me up.

More than a few Albertans, though, are conservative. They have gotten more than a little tired of their own entitlement class sucking off of their oil resources. So...this one is either a transplant from BC (Vancouver is teeming with lefties) or from east of Saskatchewan. Ontario is bad. Quebec is chock full of clueless inbred French Canadians and the maritime provinces are completely hopeless.

Either that or he's just mental. But without a doubt he's somewhat uneducated and that's mostly not his fault. Canadian education is big on French language studies. Freedom? Not so much.

So you're disappointed that we didn't play the cannuck like cat with a rrrrubber mouse?
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Re: Obama tells man questioning him about high gas prices: Buy a new car
« Reply #119 on: April 13, 2011, 01:38:46 AM »
Come on, campers...

....cut the cannuck some slack. There is absolutely no way for him, raised in the great white north, to have any real understanding of our Constitution. Canadians have the same blind spots as the other so-called "free" countries that suck off of the protection provided them by the US military. That would be the same military that they love to bad mouth from the comfort of their socialist paradises. Cracks me up.

More than a few Albertans, though, are conservative. They have gotten more than a little tired of their own entitlement class sucking off of their oil resources. So...this one is either a transplant from BC (Vancouver is teeming with lefties) or from east of Saskatchewan. Ontario is bad. Quebec is chock full of clueless inbred French Canadians and the maritime provinces are completely hopeless.

Either that or he's just mental. But without a doubt he's somewhat uneducated and that's mostly not his fault. Canadian education is big on French language studies. Freedom? Not so much.

So you're disappointed that we didn't play the cannuck like cat with a rrrrubber mouse?

Absolutely. Why on earth should we take someone like that seriously? Bait them and play with them. This is our forum and we ought to be able to have some fun with a nutty leftist when they show up looking for trouble. It should be like tag team wrestling. But play with their heads. Use circular arguments. Ask them absurd questions. Challenge their manhood. But never waste your time trying to reason with them after they reveal themselves to be liberal versions of the walking dead. Just shove them around and have fun with them.


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That's what I think, anyway.

Obviously I was too late to this particular game. My post was just not in time. I went after his Canadian heritage immediately with some stereotypical stuff designed to twist his nose but good. Maybe he would have taken the bait. Maybe not. Don't know but if he didn't then I would have tried something else. But I don't think I would have given him any satisfaction with his ridiculous notions about the Constitution or American heritage and freedom and such. Just a big waste of time as IDP noted.

I wouldn't want to do it everyday or all the time but I do sometimes miss those Powerline days when I used to beat up on april and several of the other reliable nuts. The problem is that you can't do it just about anywhere else because they are either so far in the minority that they won't throw down or if you are in their territory they just ban you right away.

Ah well. Perhaps next time I will get to have some fun.

Not that I'm criticizing you for banning him. I'm not. He was an annoying idiot who had no business commenting on our politics. I can just imagine how stupid it would be for me to show up on a blog about some other country's politics and start spouting off about how dumb they are. The guy was a dork. The only real mistake here was extending him any courtesy. He deserved none. We are just too darn polite sometimes and that's both good and bad if you know what I mean.

Okay, rant over.

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