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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #80 on: July 11, 2011, 10:49:21 AM »
It's an absolute crime that a piece of crap gets this kind of attention while other (vastly superior) performers* labor in relative obscurity.

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Thanks for the plug friend. Labored in relative obscurity. I don't labor it anymore. I had my time, and I got as far as I got, and I'm at peace (except for douchebags selling my CD for $100, but I digress). And as far as superior talent being passed by for something "less" - everyone goes into the music business understanding that is the way it is. Everyone thinks they can be the one to break through. Some can and some can't. Sometimes talent is a factor, and sometimes it isn't. I've seen some really, really good bands not have even the regional success I had. And I've seen some horsecrap bands go much further. It's just how it is.

I wish Rebecca Black the best. I think that in spite of the fact that the song is universally panned, there is something to the phenomenon that deserves attention. I know that EVERY single Friday in the office where I've been freelancing, people can be heard singing that song here and there throughout the day. My wife tells me the same story from her offices - she moves between several different locations throughout the metro. My friends have told me similar stories.

So yeah, the song sucks the big one. But in music and pop culture, that's only part of the story, and in this instance, a rather irrelevant part.
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #81 on: July 11, 2011, 11:40:51 AM »
And that's where the "new media" comes in. Reblecha and others have taken advantage of the internet in general, youtube in particular and other avenues to bypass the traditional music industry.

Another (and musically far better) example is the mashup coverband, Rock Sugar, doing essentially the same thing but also harnessing social media (Facebook) to promote themselves.

A few years later and Cain's Alibi might have turned out much differently. The talent was definitely there from what I have heard on the album.
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #82 on: July 11, 2011, 12:30:25 PM »
...A few years later and Cain's Alibi might have turned out much differently. The talent was definitely there from what I have heard on the album.


That's quite possible. There is no doubt that in the final couple years of my music career, Myspace and the idea of Internet social networking were being discussed and in use by innovative musicians. That is an avenue I never took advantage of. My age, I suppose. I thought the old way was good enough, and "didn't get" all the hubbub around Myspace. We had a website, and that was a stretch for me. Now just a few years later, and a band without a facebook page is at a distinct disadvantage.
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #83 on: July 11, 2011, 01:04:59 PM »
...A few years later and Cain's Alibi might have turned out much differently. The talent was definitely there from what I have heard on the album.


That's quite possible. There is no doubt that in the final couple years of my music career, Myspace and the idea of Internet social networking were being discussed and in use by innovative musicians. That is an avenue I never took advantage of. My age, I suppose. I thought the old way was good enough, and "didn't get" all the hubbub around Myspace. We had a website, and that was a stretch for me. Now just a few years later, and a band without a facebook page is at a distinct disadvantage.

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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #84 on: July 11, 2011, 01:12:30 PM »
...A few years later and Cain's Alibi might have turned out much differently. The talent was definitely there from what I have heard on the album.


That's quite possible. There is no doubt that in the final couple years of my music career, Myspace and the idea of Internet social networking were being discussed and in use by innovative musicians. That is an avenue I never took advantage of. My age, I suppose. I thought the old way was good enough, and "didn't get" all the hubbub around Myspace. We had a website, and that was a stretch for me. Now just a few years later, and a band without a facebook page is at a distinct disadvantage.

 So do it now you can sell your own cd.

I'd have to invest in new product up front - minimum 1000 pieces. I do sell mp3s in just about every download outlet there is, which costs me nothing but a consignment fee. I get a check for about $20 every six months or so. Not a revenue stream worth investing in at this point.
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #85 on: July 11, 2011, 02:23:24 PM »
I got as far as I got, and I'm at peace

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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #86 on: July 11, 2011, 06:24:11 PM »
And that's where the "new media" comes in. Reblecha and others have taken advantage of the internet in general, youtube in particular and other avenues to bypass the traditional music industry.

I think that's a good thing overall.  What with the social networking, consumer electronics, software, and CD burners, local musicians can make and sell their own recordings directly to their fans, entirely bypassing agents, record companies, etc.  They can gain popularity both by word of mouth and the internet.

The Grateful Dead were sort of a pre-internet prototype of this.  They played lots of gigs every year, but rarely advertised them.  They had a phone hotline which fans could call to learn of upcoming dates and venues, and word-of-mouth did the rest.  They pretty much sold out everywhere they played.  And they didn't discourage fans from making amateur bootleg recordings of their shows, which were widely traded.

Here's another example of a young teen with a homemade YouTube video.  I saw this over the weekend at Gerard van der Leun's American Digest site.  While she's no threat to Rebecca Black in terms of view numbers, one commenter points out that her cover, which has been out one month, already has more views than the original, posted two years ago.  This is serious talent.  I love the bluesy lilt of her voice, and she's also very easy on the eyes.  I can't get this song out of my head now.

(And I've watched the original.  There's no contest.)

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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #87 on: July 11, 2011, 06:33:04 PM »
That's really cool Rickl - great find. But remember now, Miley Cyrus thinks it should be more difficult to become a star.
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #88 on: July 11, 2011, 06:43:53 PM »
Thanks for that I enjoyed that little girl very much and I'm shipping it everybody on my email list!!
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #89 on: July 11, 2011, 06:56:29 PM »
That's really cool Rickl - great find. But remember now, Miley Cyrus thinks it should be more difficult to become a star.

Sounds like a case of sour grapes.  So Miley's an old curmudgeon now?

(As far as Rebecca Black's song goes, it did develop a reputation as the "Worst Song EVAH!", so a lot of its views were out of morbid curiosity.)
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #90 on: July 11, 2011, 08:15:29 PM »
With today's technology, a fan could go to a band's gig on Saturday night, and on Sunday morning download an MP3 live recording of the show he just saw, for a small fee.  The transaction would be entirely between the band and the fan.  The "music industry" is no longer necessary.
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #91 on: July 15, 2011, 12:18:48 PM »
With today's technology, a fan could go to a band's gig on Saturday night, and on Sunday morning download an MP3 live recording of the show he just saw, for a small fee.  The transaction would be entirely between the band and the fan.  The "music industry" is no longer necessary.
And that is a very GOOD thing! ::thumbsup::
BTW I liked it. ::cool::
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #92 on: July 15, 2011, 01:43:07 PM »

I liked it too.

The music industry isn't dead the business is just changing.  As long as we have civilization we'll have music.  And, it seems, as always, good music has to be sought.




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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #93 on: July 18, 2011, 06:37:36 PM »
(As far as Rebecca Black's song goes, it did develop a reputation as the "Worst Song EVAH!", so a lot of its views were out of morbid curiosity.)

Okay, well the new one is out and (I didn't think it was possible but) it's worse than "Friday."

Here it is:



Sorry, but this chick can't sing (very well). It's mediocre at best.

In a doomsday scenario, hippies will be among the first casualties. So not everything about doomsday will be bad.

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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #94 on: July 18, 2011, 07:05:44 PM »
This poor kid. I sure hope she's grounded in something other than hopes of being a pop star. Ah heck, whaddoIknow. I'm just an old fart.
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #95 on: July 18, 2011, 08:12:27 PM »
Hey, if anyone is qualified to comment on musical talent...
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #96 on: July 26, 2011, 02:51:34 PM »
"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #97 on: July 26, 2011, 02:53:56 PM »
Apparently a lot of people have a helluva lot of time on their hands...

Rebecca Black - Friday (IN HELL) Official [CYNICAL_MASS] Remix (Re-Upload)
"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #98 on: July 26, 2011, 02:55:33 PM »
And the winner of... something...

Death Metal Friday
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Re: It's Friday
« Reply #99 on: July 26, 2011, 03:21:06 PM »
Can we put this one to bed? Please. ::saywhat::
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