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Re: Anybody still think it can't happen here????????
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2012, 03:00:28 PM »
Not I.  I wouldn't put anything past this regime.  The document states an E.O. can be issued to "suspend" Posse Comitatus and we know how much Duh Wun luvs him some E.O.s.
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Re: Anybody still think it can't happen here????????
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2012, 03:16:47 PM »
I think it most definitely COULD happen here, AND that there are those in power right now whose interests and agendas would be served by it.

That said, I view what I find on infowars.com with a cautious eye. I find the information there to be of value, and I'm always open to alternative sources, but too many times I've dug into there, or WND, and found that the sensationalism of the headlines and accusations isn't supported by the details.

BTW, nice to "see" you OLJ. I was just looking at the memberlist a couple days ago and wondering where you've been. Don't be so scarce.
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Re: Anybody still think it can't happen here????????
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2012, 03:35:46 PM »

Yeah, one must definitely take it into consideration
you just can't take it to the bank.

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Re: Anybody still think it can't happen here????????
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2012, 04:44:26 PM »
I have followed this subject for several years now. Not all these EO"s were signed by Obama but he has closed the loop and is now in a position to finish his coup.
Read this article and then search around to see what you can find out.
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps1.htm
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Re: Anybody still think it can't happen here????????
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2012, 06:57:38 PM »
I have followed this subject for several years now. Not all these EO"s were signed by Obama but he has closed the loop and is now in a position to finish his coup.
Read this article and then search around to see what you can find out.
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps1.htm
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Re: Anybody still think it can't happen here????????
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2012, 07:58:00 PM »

Yeah, one must definitely take it into consideration
you just can't take it to the bank.


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Re: Anybody still think it can't happen here????????
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2012, 08:00:06 AM »
The manual states, “These operations may be performed as domestic civil support operations,” and adds that “The authority to approve resettlement such operations within U.S. territories,” would require a “special exception” to The Posse Comitatus Act, which can be obtained via “the President invoking his executive authority.” The document also makes reference to identifying detainees using their “social security number.”

Aside from enemy combatants and other classifications of detainees, the manual includes the designation of “civilian internees,” in other words citizens who are detained for, “security reasons, for protection, or because he or she committed an offense against the detaining power.”

Once the detainees have been processed into the internment camp, the manual explains how they will be “indoctrinated,” with a particular focus on targeting political dissidents, into expressing support for U.S. policies.

The re-education process is the responsibility of the “Psychological Operations Officer,” whose job it is to design “PSYOP products that are designed to pacify and acclimate detainees or DCs to accept U.S. I/R facility authority and regulations,” according to the document.


Resist we much!  

Any President initiating this and any officer trying to carry out these illegal orders are in fact commiting treason and as such wouldbe subject to immediate termination on sight.

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Re: Anybody still think it can't happen here????????
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2012, 09:57:26 AM »
Libertas. You saw it too. Thanks for taking the time to actually research the fact that this is not only possible, but may be part of Obama's plans.
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Re: Anybody still think it can't happen here????????
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2012, 07:29:10 PM »
Libertas. You saw it too. Thanks for taking the time to actually research the fact that this is not only possible, but may be part of Obama's plans.
We sail in very dangerous waters my friend.



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Re: Anybody still think it can't happen here????????
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2012, 07:30:40 AM »
Yup.  Too many people seem all too willing to jump into hell's flames.

The insanity of it all is beyond frustrating.
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Re: Anybody still think it can't happen here????????
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2012, 08:26:48 AM »
"They're from the government honey, they say they are here to help us."

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Re: Anybody still think it can't happen here????????
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2012, 08:34:40 AM »
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/with-reservations-obama-signs-act-to-allow-detention-of-citizens/ - thanks to Obama!
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2007/230507martiallaw.htm - Thanks to the Little Bush ( this link maybe on its way to gone - graphics on my comp are not been loaded)

... and people got mad when I called the little Bush a friggin' liberal!
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Re: Anybody still think it can't happen here????????
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2012, 09:17:51 AM »
... and people got mad when I called the little Bush a friggin' liberal!

Walks like a Liberal, Talks like a liberal, its probably a liberal.
Kerry would have been worse, which is the problem.  The GOP only has to be marginally less liberal than the Democrats, so they say the right things, and pretend to have principles, and then cave to every Democratic demand because those demands always serve to enhance their power and booty as well.

We should primary random people from the phone book.

 
 

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Re: Anybody still think it can't happen here????????
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2012, 09:41:18 AM »
Product differentiation is a lost art, and it seems to have eluded the GOP and the electorate at large since Reagan left office...

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Re: Anybody still think it can't happen here????????
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2012, 09:48:48 AM »
Germany, early 1930s is here now

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Re: Anybody still think it can't happen here????????
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2012, 09:56:04 AM »
... and people got mad when I called the little Bush a friggin' liberal!

Walks like a Liberal, Talks like a liberal, its probably a liberal.
Kerry would have been worse, which is the problem.  The GOP only has to be marginally less liberal than the Democrats, so they say the right things, and pretend to have principles, and then cave to every Democratic demand because those demands always serve to enhance their power and booty as well.

We should primary random people from the phone book.

 
 

on twitter I have commented to Boener and GOP about why they ALLOWED one of the more liberal news channels (CNN) to host the first debate?

They don't see a problem with that?  REALLY??

Look at Romney - he has ALREADY stood for abortions and gays ... HOW IS THAT A REPUBLICAN VALUE??

WTF PPL! ... are that many people brain dead??

I rather see anarchy than Romney!
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Re: Anybody still think it can't happen here????????
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2012, 10:02:00 AM »
We should primary random people from the phone book.

I'd vote for a random drunk off the streets before either Obama or Romney if I had a chance - sadly, I won't have that chance. So Romney is where my vote HAS to go. Unfortunately.

But to the point: Indeed. We would be much better off if we randomly chose a president from the general population...at least in regard to the last several presidents.
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Re: Anybody still think it can't happen here????????
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2012, 10:22:44 AM »

I rather see anarchy than Romney!

Hmm...well that would probably put you in the minority. Anarchy is an OWS theme, not a conservative one.

Romney isn't the second coming of Reagan. Anyone with a brain can see that. But anyone with a brain can also see that Reagan isn't running this time, Romney is. And he is running against a marxist. That's a pretty easy choice for most people with a brain.

In a doomsday scenario, hippies will be among the first casualties. So not everything about doomsday will be bad.