Topic: 27 dead, including 18 children, at Newtown, CT, elementary school

[Pandora]

I received the following from robins111 in a PM:

"Please pass on the members of this forum, the assurance, that we, your neighbors to the north, share you sorrow and grief at the events in Newtown.  While I understand that all may not share my faith, I will pray, for the victims and survivors of today's events."

On behalf of all of us here, we thank you, sir.

[Weisshaupt]

http://www.infowars.com/piers-morgan-wants-to-eviscerate-2nd-amendment/

http://www.infowars.com/special-report-obama-cronies-want-to-kill-and-imprison-americans/

I think its a full court press folks.   

Good Old Tin Foil Hat wearing A  Jones is certainly there.

http://www.infowars.com/alex-jones-rant-obama-caught-fake-crying/

[Pandora]

Levin said tonight he will not allow his guns to be taken.  He will take them to court.  Okay, what did I expect he'd say?  What else can or would he say on the air?

I'll tell you this, though; I'm done negotiating my rights with these friggin people.

[warpmine]

This from a commenter at RS: "Surely we need to have a national conversation first about the most horrific disorder that threatens all of us....LIBERALISM, a mental disorder that threatens not just individuals but an entire nation of 306 million souls."

[Glock32]

I'm telling you all, this is the one they have been waiting for. This is the one they are going to try to break the 2nd Amendment on. As I said earlier, I don't like even thinking about the political implications because a real crime has occurred here and it is a whole new magnitude of awful, so it seems almost ghoulish to be thinking about how it will effect politics.

Now anyone who tries to defend the 2nd Amendment or resist the coming effort at disarmament is going to be cast as somehow an apologist for the murder of an entire kindergarten classroom. We inhabit a world where the optics, the emotion, the feeling is everything.

[Alphabet Soup]

I'm telling you all, this is the one they have been waiting for. This is the one they are going to try to break the 2nd Amendment on. As I said earlier, I don't like even thinking about the political implications because a real crime has occurred here and it is a whole new magnitude of awful, so it seems almost ghoulish to be thinking about how it will effect politics.

Now anyone who tries to defend the 2nd Amendment or resist the coming effort at disarmament is going to be cast as somehow an apologist for the murder of an entire kindergarten classroom. We inhabit a world where the optics, the emotion, the feeling is everything.

I have no doubt that this is true and that they will try but any such attempt will fail.

It's too late.

There are simply too many guns out in the wild now. They may attempt to place a stranglehold on ammo but even that will fail because we hold multiple million rounds already. The notion of disarming Amerika is a pipe-dream. All one must do is look to our neighbors to the north. They gave it about as strong a go as you could, spent billions of dollars, and eventually recognized the folly of it and abandoned their program.

Stay vigilant my friends, and resolute as well, and look them square in the eyes. Don't back down.

Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - I Won't Back Down

[trapeze]

I agree completely, soup.

[BigAlSouth]

After this tragedy, the only real hope of the Left is a constitutional amendment banning guns.

Does anyone realistically believe this will happen?

It would make as much sense as starting a movement to outlaw mental illness.

[robins111]

This may sound a little tinfoil, but something about the storyline is beginning to smell.  For instance, Fox during an interview, was able to determine that the mother had no connection with the school in question, as such this appears to be a random loon target..  Second, the firearms reported, do not appear to be first choice for self defence, in uber-liberal area like they lived.  However, all are the typical issue firearms for Law Enforcement in that area, particularly the Bushmaster carbine.  Further to this, little has been said about the new hubby in question, not even his name..  I'm starting to think that there's more being 'not said' than being talked about..  In any other incident, the media would be on the hubby like white on rice..

[warpmine]

This may sound a little tinfoil, but something about the storyline is beginning to smell.  For instance, Fox during an interview, was able to determine that the mother had no connection with the school in question, as such this appears to be a random loon target..  Second, the firearms reported, do not appear to be first choice for self defence, in uber-liberal area like they lived.  However, all are the typical issue firearms for Law Enforcement in that area, particularly the Bushmaster carbine.  Further to this, little has been said about the new hubby in question, not even his name..  I'm starting to think that there's more being 'not said' than being talked about..  In any other incident, the media would be on the hubby like white on rice..

Pardon me but I thought they said mother was a teacher at school kindergarten. What the hell is going on here? Was there that much misinformation and where is Susan Rice?

[robins111]

This may sound a little tinfoil, but something about the storyline is beginning to smell.  For instance, Fox during an interview, was able to determine that the mother had no connection with the school in question, as such this appears to be a random loon target..  Second, the firearms reported, do not appear to be first choice for self defence, in uber-liberal area like they lived.  However, all are the typical issue firearms for Law Enforcement in that area, particularly the Bushmaster carbine.  Further to this, little has been said about the new hubby in question, not even his name..  I'm starting to think that there's more being 'not said' than being talked about..  In any other incident, the media would be on the hubby like white on rice..

Pardon me but I thought they said mother was a teacher at school kindergarten. What the hell is going on here? Was there that much misinformation and where is Susan Rice?

Fox did an interview with a member of the school board who,claimed she wasn't a teacher..   My guess, she's Law Enforcement...

[charlesoakwood]

Yeah, somethings don't pass the smell test.


Here is a common sense observation from this current event:   

“Obviously not well.” In other words, Adam Lanza was nuts.
 Common sense is quite nearly illegal nowadays and it’s certainly unfashionable in the Obama Age. So the usual liberal dingbats — including the ACLU types who assured us it was “a fearless, independent life style” for a crazy woman to defecate in public on the streets of Manahattan — are telling us we need more gun control.

And I say, no, what we need is more kook control.

[IronDioPriest]

Yeah, somethings don't pass the smell test.


Here is a common sense observation from this current event:   

“Obviously not well.” In other words, Adam Lanza was nuts.
 Common sense is quite nearly illegal nowadays and it’s certainly unfashionable in the Obama Age. So the usual liberal dingbats — including the ACLU types who assured us it was “a fearless, independent life style” for a crazy woman to defecate in public on the streets of Manahattan — are telling us we need more gun control.

And I say, no, what we need is more kook control.

Yeah, I don't want the government deciding who's crazy either.

[Libertas]

Mom was a gun nut, there's the angle they need.  If not for a batsh*t crazy gun-loving psycho Mom all would be rainbows and unicorns.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/15/us-connecticut-towns-idUSBRE8BD0U120121215

Kid tried to buy a rifle and was denied, system worked apparently, but Hell, let's ban all guns anyway, Mom had e'm available.

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208344

But the full court press is full on.  CT's tough gun laws not tough enough.  More laws, less rights, more safety...it's the gun grabbers credo regardless if they are of the Stalinist or Nazi strain, statists have a terminal boner for destroying the 2nd Amendment.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/14/Bloomberg-politicizes-shooting

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/dec/14/dem-lawmaker-get-gun-control-obama-must-exploit-sh/

We are at the beginning of the end game now, there is no surrender.

[IronDioPriest]

So many things are wrong, I don't know where to start or who to believe. I saw a link at AoSHQ making this claim, and when I followed the link, the reference had been scrubbed from their link at ABC News. I had to search for the reference, and found it at several places, but who knows?

Shooter's brother Ryan Lanza says brother Adam was "autistic", had "personality disorder"

[Libertas]

Yeah, same for the online posting story, cannot find any confirmation of that either.

http://www.infowars.com/im-going-to-kill-myself-on-friday-and-it-will-make-the-news/

I seriously doubt a fully autistic young adult has the ability to commit a pre-planned assualt of this kind, so for now I am calling BS on that angle.  Dude have issues?  Sure.  Autism?  I am not buying it.

[IronDioPriest]

Yeah, same for the online posting story, cannot find any confirmation of that either.

http://www.infowars.com/im-going-to-kill-myself-on-friday-and-it-will-make-the-news/

I seriously doubt a fully autistic young adult has the ability to commit a pre-planned assualt of this kind, so for now I am calling BS on that angle.  Dude have issues?  Sure.  Autism?  I am not buying it.

I've also seen reports that neighbors say they thought the kid had OCD. Who knows, at this point?

[Libertas]

Yeah, same for the online posting story, cannot find any confirmation of that either.

http://www.infowars.com/im-going-to-kill-myself-on-friday-and-it-will-make-the-news/

I seriously doubt a fully autistic young adult has the ability to commit a pre-planned assualt of this kind, so for now I am calling BS on that angle.  Dude have issues?  Sure.  Autism?  I am not buying it.

I've also seen reports that neighbors say they thought the kid had OCD. Who knows, at this point?

Asperger’s syndrome, not the same as Autism or nearly as severe, could be people used the wrong term and some JuroTard ran with it.  No doubt more will come out on this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/nyregion/adam-lanza-an-enigma-who-is-now-identified-as-a-mass-killer.html?hp&_r=0

[Alphabet Soup]

This may sound a little tinfoil, but something about the storyline is beginning to smell.  For instance, Fox during an interview, was able to determine that the mother had no connection with the school in question, as such this appears to be a random loon target..  Second, the firearms reported, do not appear to be first choice for self defence, in uber-liberal area like they lived.  However, all are the typical issue firearms for Law Enforcement in that area, particularly the Bushmaster carbine.  Further to this, little has been said about the new hubby in question, not even his name..  I'm starting to think that there's more being 'not said' than being talked about..  In any other incident, the media would be on the hubby like white on rice..

Tinfoil or not, you're wise to trust your nose.

Instead of simply reporting we have the Journaltards injecting themselves into the story for the sake of an headline or soundbyte. It is for this reason that I am reluctant to post any anything except a condemnation of the crime and a commiseration with the victims.

Oh - and one more little tidbit (just due to the inevitability of it all): as will be revealed in the coming days, there were clues.

[charlesoakwood]

Clues? Oh, for sure.  Read in one article "his mother was rigid". 

Have they got one piece correct?  Worst school disaster -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-15/newtown-shooter-had-asperger-syndrome-and-some-us-gun-facts