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Title: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:26:58 PM
???
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:27:18 PM
Watch it live. No one knows what it's about.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:27:50 PM
Can't be good. He's the laziest ass president in history and doesn't work late for just any old reason.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:28:14 PM
My son said that the security level at his base just got raised.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:29:05 PM
Geraldo (ugh) is covering this on FNC.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:29:19 PM
The "c" team.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:29:39 PM
He is acting like he's getting ready to open Capone's vault.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:30:01 PM
Could be Libya. Who knows?
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:31:04 PM
To be a fifteen minute address.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:31:55 PM
Any second now.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:36:38 PM
To be from the East Room.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:37:39 PM
There isn't any other news of attack or war out there so it can't be that bad.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: John Florida on May 01, 2011, 09:39:49 PM
Are you listening to Heraldo. I could just slap his ass.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:40:43 PM
Geraldo is going nuts with all kinds of wild ass theories. Thinks maybe Bin Laden is dead or something. That wouldn't explain military bases raising their security levels.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:40:59 PM
They are claiming bin Laden is dead.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: John Florida on May 01, 2011, 09:41:05 PM
Bin Laden dead!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:41:53 PM
Geraldo is having an orgasm.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:42:10 PM
Says it's the greatest night of his career.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:43:35 PM
I still don't know why this warrants a late night address. I mean, glad he's dead and all but unless Toonces himself pulled the trigger...
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:44:27 PM
So I guess we can disband the Department of Homeland Security, right?
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 01, 2011, 09:45:38 PM
Geraldo is having an orgasm.

I hadn't thought he could be more repulsive.

I was wrong.

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:45:45 PM
This is great news for Toonces approval rating but he's peaking too soon. It will be back in the toilet when gas goes up another buck.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:46:53 PM
Killed a week ago
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:47:22 PM
Got DNA results to confirm it.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: John Florida on May 01, 2011, 09:47:29 PM
This is great news for Toonces approval rating but he's peaking too soon. It will be back in the toilet when gas goes up another buck.

 .Killed a week ago by US bomb!!
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: Delta Force on May 01, 2011, 09:47:51 PM
I have believed this slime ball reached room temperature a long time ago.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: John Florida on May 01, 2011, 09:48:04 PM
This prick is going to get credit for it.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 01, 2011, 09:49:14 PM

May all the credit go where it's due.

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: warpmine on May 01, 2011, 09:51:36 PM
Osoma dead, Obama wants a moment of silece for his friend ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: John Florida on May 01, 2011, 09:51:53 PM
We have his body and it needs to wrapped in pork and burried where it will never be found!! May he rot in hell!!
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: Delta Force on May 01, 2011, 09:51:56 PM
This prick is going to get credit for it.

Please don't call him that.  A prick is part of a male dog, and I really like dogs. ;D
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:54:03 PM
Place your bets on how many times Toonces says "I" in his address. I say 20.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: John Florida on May 01, 2011, 09:56:01 PM
I'm going to bed and watch a movie he's got nothing for me to hear!!
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 09:56:59 PM
I am basing my guess on a fifteen minute address.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 10:01:45 PM
Over a half hour late on the address. What could he be doing? Snorting some coke?
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 10:02:18 PM
The outside lights at the WH just went off. ??
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 10:03:01 PM
And now the lights go back on.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 01, 2011, 10:03:53 PM
and a smile...Mind reader.

I got something in my nose too but it smells more like a rat or a dead rotting fish.

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 10:04:45 PM
Geraldo thinks that the GWOT is over now. As if killing bin Laden is the end game. What an idiot.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 01, 2011, 10:05:26 PM
Killed a week ago

Or a month or it must really be going bad in Libya.

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 01, 2011, 10:08:32 PM
So I guess we can disband the Department of Homeland Security, right?

My daughter said she guess this means TSA doesn't get to feel her up.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 10:09:40 PM
We have his body and it needs to wrapped in pork and burried where it will never be found!! May he rot in hell!!

They won't do that.  Thirty years ago they would have nailed an ace of spades playing card to his forehead but we are much more feminized these days.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 10:10:11 PM
So I guess we can disband the Department of Homeland Security, right?

My daughter said she guess this means TSA doesn't get to feel her up.

If only.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 10:11:08 PM
Killed a week ago

Or a month or it must really be going bad in Libya.



Very convenient to get the news off of Kadafi's kid and grandkids getting whacked.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 10:11:55 PM
The body must be in chunks because of the DNA analysis.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 10:12:53 PM
They are saying that they killed him in Pakistan. Our allies the Pakistanis.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 01, 2011, 10:13:12 PM
This will be the first time I've actually listened to BO on purpose--maybe-- I still might skip it.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 10:15:50 PM
Geraldo just fumblemouthed that "Obama is dead." Biggest night of his life, as he said earlier, and he just committed the biggest goof of his life. Still prattling on and on and on...
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 10:19:44 PM
The liberal talking points will be something along the lines of, "We shouldn't have killed him because now the terrorists will be really, really, really mad at us." Just wait for it.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 10:21:52 PM
AOS says that it was a "human action" rather than a bomb. One flaming skull has been posted. (http://minx.cc/?post=315533)
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Delta Force on May 01, 2011, 10:22:15 PM
The body must be in chunks because of the DNA analysis.

If we have had the body for a week, he missed out on his virgins.  Islam requires the dead be buried within 24 hours.  Works for me!
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 10:24:26 PM
FNC finally gets a grown up on the air. Bret Baer is on with Geraldo.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 10:27:16 PM
Now I am hearing "shot in the head." Special Forces.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 01, 2011, 10:28:12 PM
General told Geraldo to STFU.

flub #2

ETA: Not the General but Geraldo for over talking.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 10:32:53 PM
Twitter post on "shot in head" (http://twitter.com/#!/thegoldfarb/statuses/64892168250212352)
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 01, 2011, 10:40:23 PM

He's so pleased with himself he is having difficulty keeping a straight face.

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 01, 2011, 10:45:07 PM
Place your bets on how many times Toonces says "I" in his address. I say 20.

The writers were laying for you.

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 10:46:21 PM
Eight "I's"

Two "My's"

Two "Me's"

The "story of our history?" Who wrote that?

And who twisted his arm into saying, "one nation under God...?"
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 10:47:23 PM
I would say that the delay in him coming out was some serious re-writing of that speech.

One bit of news is that it happened today.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 01, 2011, 10:48:36 PM
He said God Bless America!

Do you think he went to  ::puke::?

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 01, 2011, 10:52:08 PM
He said God Bless America!

Do you think he went to  ::puke::?



It looked like he had something in his craw.

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 01, 2011, 10:55:54 PM

Just said on ABC, I hope this doesn't precipitate some reaction.
And conversation about that topic. now to Jake Tapper

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 11:03:11 PM
I wish that FNC would quit showing file footage of bin Laden. They won't show images of the towers on fire and falling down but they give tribute to bin Laden by continuing to show images of him. It is to puke.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 01, 2011, 11:14:05 PM
Now just watch. This makes Obama more dangerous.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Alphabet Soup on May 01, 2011, 11:16:15 PM
The liberal talking points will be something along the lines of, "We shouldn't have killed him because now the terrorists will be really, really, really mad at us." Just wait for it.

Personally I will be pleased if Øbozo takes credit for the kill. As a muzzie (can I say that?) superstar, Obama, er, I mean Osama's killing will mean a fatwa for the Bumbler In Chief.

Maybe it'll keep him off the golf-course...
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Pandora on May 01, 2011, 11:19:49 PM
Now just watch. This makes Obama more dangerous.

In his own mind.  May make him more daring, which may cause a major overstep.  Bad for him; good for us.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 01, 2011, 11:24:23 PM
Now just watch. This makes Obama more dangerous.

In his own mind.  May make him more daring, which may cause a major overstep.  Bad for him; good for us.

From your lips.

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 11:25:05 PM
Some questions...

If they could shoot him in the head then why couldn't they take him alive? Did they have orders to shoot on sight? And if so, why?

It seems to me that he would be an excellent source of intelligence. It would have been interesting to see what could be extracted from him with enhanced interrogation techniques. And then do the military tribunal thing with the summary firing squad. The result would have been the same but with some intelligence acquired.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 01, 2011, 11:28:23 PM

That's all bad theater for Bambi.

Will the soldiers get the $25 M?

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: RickZ on May 01, 2011, 11:32:05 PM
Now just watch. This makes Obama more dangerous.

In his own mind.  May make him more daring, which may cause a major overstep.  Bad for him; good for us.

Libya was an overstep.  Hasn't seemed to slow down Obama one bit.  He's still partying like it's 1999.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Pandora on May 01, 2011, 11:34:16 PM
Now just watch. This makes Obama more dangerous.

In his own mind.  May make him more daring, which may cause a major overstep.  Bad for him; good for us.

Libya was an overstep.  Hasn't seemed to slow down Obama one bit.  He's still partying like it's 1999.

It was, but not on us and that will be the one that counts.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 11:43:29 PM
Just watched the replay of Toonce's speech. You will notice that he said that as soon as he got into office he directed Panetta to make getting bin Laden the number one priority of the war on terror.

So, he thinks that it wasn't for GWB? No, but he wants everyone else to believe that and that only his election made this day possible.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 11:45:51 PM
And yeah, the Pakistanis knew damn good and well that he was there all along.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 01, 2011, 11:53:23 PM
Atlas Shrugs post on the matter. (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/05/osama-bin-laden-is-dead.html)

IMAO responds in character. (http://www.imao.us/index.php/2011/05/callooh-callay/)

Michelle celebrates. (http://michellemalkin.com/2011/05/01/reports-bin-laden-killed-a-week-ago-by-us-missile-confirmed-tonight/)

Gateway Pundit: Osama Bin Laden Was Killed in Abbottabad the Home of Pakistan Military Academy (http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/05/osama-bin-laden-was-killed-in-pakistani-military-town/) sums it up nicely.

RedState: Osama Bin Laden Is Now Several Thousand Degrees Fahrenheit In Perpetuity (http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/05/01/osama-bin-laden-is-now-several-thousand-degrees-fahrenheit-in-perpetuity/)



Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: RickZ on May 01, 2011, 11:57:12 PM
Team America - America f**k Yeah (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcmuPc8_SWQ#)
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 01, 2011, 11:57:39 PM
He was living in a mansion?
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 12:02:21 AM
Puke: His body is being handled according to muslim custom.

Why?
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: RickZ on May 02, 2011, 12:05:41 AM
Puke: His body is being handled according to muslim custom.

If that's true, that sucks.  But if the body has been held for a week, that already violates muslim burial custom.

Personally, I'd've beheaded the f*cker's corpse and stuck the head on a pike at the White House or Ground Zero.  Then thrown what's left of the body, properly wieghted, overboard at sea.  No memorial shrine for this @sshole.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 02, 2011, 12:07:39 AM
Puke: His body is being handled according to muslim custom.

Why?

Earlier, I almost made a sarcastic post about that but then I thought no way they will.
 ::gaah:: Way.

As you asked.  WHY?

What's next we return his body so he can get a public funeral/ riot in the Mid East?
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 12:10:58 AM
Puke: His body is being handled according to muslim custom.

If that's true, that sucks.  But if the body has been held for a week, that already violates muslim burial custom.

Personally, I'd've beheaded the f*cker's corpse and stuck the head on a pike at the White House or Ground Zero.  Then thrown what's left of the body, properly wieghted, overboard at sea.  No memorial shrine for this @sshole.

No, they said they got him today. That part about it being a week ago was from an early report that was, as usual, wrong.

But, yeah, I'm all for stuffing him full of bacon and letting pigs play with the corpse.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: RickZ on May 02, 2011, 12:13:26 AM
Trap, I thought getting DNA results took a little longer than using a drive-thru at McDonald's.

They did mention they checked his DNA, didn't they?  Or is that a lie, too?
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 12:14:10 AM
 The Onion regarding the original attack on 9/11. (http://www.theonion.com/articles/hijackers-surprised-to-find-selves-in-hell,1445/)

Here's hoping that they do an appropriate write up on this douchebag.

[blockquote]

Hijackers Surprised To Find Selves In Hell
SEPTEMBER 26, 2001

JAHANNEM, OUTER DARKNESS—The hijackers who carried out the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon expressed confusion and surprise Monday to find themselves in the lowest plane of Na'ar, Islam's Hell.

"I was promised I would spend eternity in Paradise, being fed honeyed cakes by 67 virgins in a tree-lined garden, if only I would fly the airplane into one of the Twin Towers," said Mohammed Atta, one of the hijackers of American Airlines Flight 11, between attempts to vomit up the wasps, hornets, and live coals infesting his stomach. "But instead, I am fed the boiling feces of traitors by malicious, laughing Ifrit. Is this to be my reward for destroying the enemies of my faith?"

The rest of Atta's words turned to raw-throated shrieks, as a tusked, asp-tongued demon burst his eyeballs and drank the fluid that ran down his face.

According to Hell sources, the 19 eternally damned terrorists have struggled to understand why they have been subjected to soul-withering, infernal torture ever since their Sept. 11 arrival.

"There was a tumultuous conflagration of burning steel and fuel at our gates, and from it stepped forth these hijackers, the blessed name of the Lord already turning to molten brass on their accursed lips," said Iblis The Thrice-Damned, the cacodemon charged with conscripting new arrivals into the ranks of the forgotten. "Indeed, I do not know what they were expecting, but they certainly didn't seem prepared to be skewered from eye socket to bunghole and then placed on a spit so that their flesh could be roasted by the searing gale of flatus which issues forth from the haunches of Asmoday."

"Which is strange when you consider the evil with which they ended their lives and those of so many others," added Iblis, absentmindedly twisting the limbs of hijacker Abdul Aziz Alomari into unspeakably obscene shapes.

"I was told that these Americans were enemies of the one true religion, and that Heaven would be my reward for my noble sacrifice," said Alomari, moments before his jaw was sheared away by faceless homunculi. "But now I am forced to suckle from the 16 poisoned leathern teats of Gophahmet, Whore of Betrayal, until I burst from an unwholesome engorgement of curdled bile. This must be some sort of terrible mistake."

Exacerbating the terrorists' tortures, which include being hollowed out and used as prophylactics by thorn-cocked Gulbuth The Rampant, is the fact that they will be forced to endure such suffering in sight of the Paradise they were expecting.

"It might actually be the most painful thing we can do, to show these murderers the untold pleasures that would have awaited them in Paradise, if only they had lived pious lives," said Praxitas, Duke of Those Willingly Led Astray. "I mean, it's tough enough being forced through a wire screen by the callused palms of Halcorym and then having your entrails wound onto a stick and fed to the toothless, foul-breathed swine of Gehenna. But to endure that while watching the righteous drink from a river of wine? That can't be fun."
[/blockquote]
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 12:14:41 AM
Trap, I thought getting DNA results took a little longer than using a drive-thru at McDonald's.

They did mention they checked his DNA, didn't they?  Or is that a lie, too?

Toonces himself said that they got him today. Who knows?
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 02, 2011, 12:45:51 AM
He was in a area of a million people.

And I bet everyone of them knew where he was.

But hey, we're not at war with them......

Bin Laden was living well and laughing his a$$ off at us.

It fit the narrative in the US to believe he was in a cave--otherwise how come we can't find him??
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 12:47:51 AM
The sad state of US intelligence capabilities... bin Laden in plain sight for years and we only just now got the SOB. And yet, it's a triumph.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Pandora on May 02, 2011, 12:49:25 AM
He was in a area of a million people.

And I bet everyone of them knew where he was.

But hey, we're not at war with them......

Bin Laden was living well and laughing his a$$ off at us.

It fit the narrative in the US to believe he was in a cave--otherwise how come we can't find him??

Cave, my azz.  He was living high on the hog, protected by the Pakistanis and we've been paying them "ally" money this whole time.

Somebody, somewhere flipped, but it wasn't just the 25 mil, I'll wager.  A political calculation was made.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 02, 2011, 12:52:49 AM
I've long been of the opinion that bin Laden's whereabouts were well-known, and that he would be killed or captured at a time of our choosing, at a time most beneficial to Obama. That's why I say, watch him now. This is a major event - a very big deal. Obama will use it somehow to his advantage. Whether in response to a real or manufactured uptick in terrorist threats, an actual terrorist retaliatory response, further instability in the Middle-East, whatever - I will look for how this event can be used by the Leftists to further restrict the liberty of the American people.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 01:00:37 AM
His approval numbers will shoot up for a week.

Then the price of gas will shoot up and the public will remember that he's a dick.

They can talk him up all they want but it doesn't do anything to hide the fact that people have less food and gas to show for their paychecks.

Also, a terrorist attack inside the US would be very bad for everyone but politically it would be radioactive for Toonces. They raised the alert level at military bases tonight for a reason. I am still astounded that there has not been a major suicide attack at a public place (like a shopping mall) in the years since 9/11. If there are sleeper cells in America it would be not surprising if they had attack orders that were based on news of the death of bin Laden. Hope not. Or hope they get caught first. But Toonces will get hammered if he is perceived to have let terrorists carry out a revenge attack.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Pandora on May 02, 2011, 01:11:00 AM
We're burying bin Laden according to islam's appropriate customs.

Let's see how the general public "feels" about that in relation to Duh Wun's popularity numbers.

I'm outraged and sickened by this whole bullsht thing.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 01:15:15 AM
That item won't get much play in the media. Why would it? The MFM is still in the tank for Toonces. They will be to the bitter end.

...............

You will notice that Toonces makes mention in his speech of the Pakistani president. Almost makes it seem like he knew about the operation. Now that's BS. If they had let him in on it then bin Laden wouldn't have been there when the raid took place. It will be interesting to see if the Pakistani muzzies go nuts and kill their president for allowing bin Laden to be taken out.

It will also be interesting to see what the international muzzie reaction to "bold and brave Obama" is.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 02, 2011, 01:19:53 AM
His approval numbers will shoot up for a week.

Then the price of gas will shoot up and the public will remember that he's a dick.

They can talk him up all they want but it doesn't do anything to hide the fact that people have less food and gas to show for their paychecks.



You're talking electoral politics. I'm talking the audacity to cynically use events to move pieces on a chessboard in the effort to fundamentally transform the nation. He's already demonstrated several times over that he doesn't give a whit for approval numbers. All he cares about is tearing down as many barriers to Leftist power as possible while erecting as many pillars of Leftist power as possible. He's gunning for the future. Long-term transformation. He wants to be known as the President who changed the course of world history by ending the era of American power. The public becoming agitated over high prices for the necessities of life is not an unintended consequence, it's a feature - a necessary step in the transformation.

I am concerned he will use the killing of bin Laden to make a move against our liberty - that something will happen as a result of this event that will trigger a response from our government that will curtail our liberty. Time will tell, but I don't see how public disapproval numbers will play too much into that if it happens.

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 01:28:45 AM
He definitely wants to remain president. Remember all the BS talk on the left about GWB declaring a state of emergency and marshall law? The crazy thing is that I can see Toonces maneuvering in such a way as to have that happen. I mean, if taking over GM, the banking industry and the health care industry isn't a problem then taking over the country and declaring yourself king wouldn't be much of a step further.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Sectionhand on May 02, 2011, 04:02:00 AM
I heard the news at 0400 . I had a WTF moment when they said he was buried at sea . If it's true ... they couldn't have done something more stupid ... Islamic Law be damned ! Conspiracy Theorists will be crawling out of the walls on this . His body should be here and on ice for all to see .... and then stuffed and mounted at the Smithsonian .
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Sectionhand on May 02, 2011, 05:48:14 AM
I just heard from a primary source that OBL is , in fact , dead .  I'm satisfied .
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Glock32 on May 02, 2011, 05:48:32 AM
I am sure they anticipated the conspiracy theories and have documented evidence of his body. Personally I wanted it to be thrown into a hog pen, videoed, and broadcast throughout the 'slim world. At least by dumping it into the ocean no particular area will become a shrine.

Navy SEALs again prove their badassery.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: AmericanPatriot on May 02, 2011, 06:21:37 AM
General Black Jack Pershing could deal with terrorists in a proper manner
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Sectionhand on May 02, 2011, 06:30:40 AM
General Black Jack Pershing could deal with terrorists in a proper manner

Do you mean Patton ? As a young officer with Pershing in Mexico he shot two of Pancho Villa's men in a firefight and tied their bodies to the running boards of his Packard touring car . That's how he brought them back to camp . Trophies of War !
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: RickZ on May 02, 2011, 06:44:53 AM
General Black Jack Pershing could deal with terrorists in a proper manner

The Philippine story concerning the muslim insurgency Pershing fought there, and how he treated the dead bodies, is an urban legend.  But it does make a nice tale.  It really is too bad we treat our enemy dead with so much 'respect'.  Should have decapitated the body of Binnie Boy, in good islamic fashion, then have the Seals take a sh*t down his neck, videotaping the results.  Oh, and save the head and put it up as a pennant/trophy of war/warning.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Sectionhand on May 02, 2011, 06:53:36 AM
Yeah ... I forgot about Pershing during the Maori Insurrection .
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Libertas on May 02, 2011, 07:01:53 AM
My brother sent me a text message last night when he heard the news, said UBL was dead, I replied he was dead at birth, his body merely caught up to him at last.

I'm glad he's dead, but my elation is dampened by the fact that we knew he was in Pakistan and as such had to have help from Pakistani's to stay there...that it took so long to get him is annoying as hell and illustrates how a lack of intelligence and resolve in our political leadership and kowtowing to political sideshows can tie our own hands.

I'm proud of my Navy and their role in taking this evil bastard down.  It is the soldiers, sailors, flyboys and marines that deserve to celebrate and we should celebrate them for all they have done for us!  Politicians who have done nothing deserve no thanks, they have not done all that they could do to assist our service members.  This is a military victory, not a political victory, period!

Well done my brethren!

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Patriots/militarysalute.gif)
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Libertas on May 02, 2011, 07:08:15 AM
I am sure they anticipated the conspiracy theories and have documented evidence of his body. Personally I wanted it to be thrown into a hog pen, videoed, and broadcast throughout the 'slim world. At least by dumping it into the ocean no particular area will become a shrine.

Navy SEALs again prove their badassery.

I'm a little disappointed in the "buried according to Islamic practice" statement, but no specifics were offered beyond he was buried (at sea) "within 24" hours of death.  Part of me hopes he was otherwise defiled.  But another evil guy is dead, and that is a good thing.  But I hope someone stuck a syringe full of raw pigs plug into his ass!  No shrine is good, and if the scuzlims go nuts and lash out, so much the better...like smoking out bees...start pickin' 'em off!
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Sectionhand on May 02, 2011, 07:11:28 AM
My brother sent me a text message last night when he heard the news, said UBL was dead, I replied he was dead at birth, his body merely caught up to him at last.

I'm glad he's dead, but my elation is dampened by the fact that we knew he was in Pakistan and as such had to have help from Pakistani's to stay there...that it took so long to get him is annoying as hell and illustrates how a lack of intelligence and resolve in our political leadership and kowtowing to political sideshows can tie our own hands.

I'm proud of my Navy and their role in taking this evil bastard down.  It is the soldiers, sailors, flyboys and marines that deserve to celebrate and we should celebrate them for all they have done for us!  Politicians who have done nothing deserve no thanks, they have not done all that they could do to assist our service members.  This is a military victory, not a political victory, period!

Well done my brethren!

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Patriots/militarysalute.gif)

 ::thumbsup::  ::USA::  ::USA::  ::USA::  ::USA::  ::USA::  ::USA::  ::USA::  ::USA::  ::USA::  ::USA::  ::USA::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Sectionhand on May 02, 2011, 07:13:02 AM
I am sure they anticipated the conspiracy theories and have documented evidence of his body. Personally I wanted it to be thrown into a hog pen, videoed, and broadcast throughout the 'slim world. At least by dumping it into the ocean no particular area will become a shrine.

Navy SEALs again prove their badassery.

I'm a little disappointed in the "buried according to Islamic practice" statement, but no specifics were offered beyond he was buried (at sea) "within 24" hours of death.  Part of me hopes he was otherwise defiled.  But another evil guy is dead, and that is a good thing.  But I hope someone stuck a syringe full of raw pigs plug into his ass!  No shrine is good, and if the scuzlims go nuts and lash out, so much the better...like smoking out bees...start pickin' 'em off!


Kicked out the back of a C-130 over the Indian Ocean ?  ;D
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: AmericanPatriot on May 02, 2011, 07:15:11 AM
Even if the Pershing tale is an urban legend, that's how it should be done
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Sectionhand on May 02, 2011, 07:18:47 AM
I dunno ... Sounds like something Pershing would have done .
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 02, 2011, 07:19:30 AM
Dare I say that public announcement of bin Laden's killing is likely to bring martyrs out of the woodwork, and that Obama is already planning on how to take advantage of it against the American people?

It would have perhaps been better to let him just be dead, let the taped messages just stop, and leave the Jihadis to wonder.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: RickZ on May 02, 2011, 07:22:27 AM
Yeah ... I forgot about Pershing during the Maori Insurrection .

The Moro Rebellion.  The Maori are from New Zealand.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Sectionhand on May 02, 2011, 07:30:10 AM
Yeah ... I forgot about Pershing during the Maori Insurrection .

The Moro Rebellion.  The Maori are from New Zealand.

Sorry about that ... Brain Lock ...
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: RickZ on May 02, 2011, 07:41:38 AM
Yeah ... I forgot about Pershing during the Maori Insurrection .

The Moro Rebellion.  The Maori are from New Zealand.

Sorry about that ... Brain Lock ...

No apologies necessary.  It's just the pedantic @sshole historian in me.  And I only got worse after listening to the historically illiterate revisionist jackwad occupying the Oval Office.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: John Florida on May 02, 2011, 08:24:21 AM
All this nonsense about handling the body properly is political BS.The IDd the body and tossed it into the sea,how many slims are burried at sea?They tossed his ass overboard like garbage which is proper as far as I'm concrened and the can't use the body to make a saint out of his ass.

 They will soon come out and deni that we got his carcass because they don't have his body.He died hiding and hunted but the key word is died!!From reports they have been watching this compound for over 4 years and got the info from prisoner(s) in Quantanimo and it took all this time to nail him and it was worth every second it took.

 He's dead and may he rot in HELL!!And I hope some sailor stuck a pork chop on his ass!!

The Rascals-It's a Beautiful Morning (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZldHDOCNgo#)
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 08:41:31 AM
Interesting twitter feed (http://twitter.com/#!/reallyvirtual) from a Pakistani resident awoken by helicopters.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 08:57:05 AM
Anyone worried that Toonces is going to be re-elected because of this undeniable victory should remember some recent history.

After the first Gulf War President George H. W. Bush had an approval rating in the 89% range...unheard of popularity for any president. It was in February 1991. In November of 1992 he lost his re-election bid to Clinton. He was aided in his loss by the petulant little bastard Perot, true, but the really big factor was the economy. And it wasn't even close to what we have gone through already and what we are still going through.

Any gain in popularity will be brief and will not carry through to November 2012. The public's memory is brief in areas such as this. Even with the help of the MFM.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: michelleo on May 02, 2011, 09:04:46 AM
I'm so very proud of our armed forces on a job well done.  ::USA::

I've heard that Osama was finally caught due to intelligence gathered from interogating a Gitmo detainee who pinpointed the trusted courier,and turned out to be housing Osama in Pakistan.

I'm anticipating some leftie asking me if I'm proud of Obama, and I'll say if Obama gives credit to Gitmo interrogation officers, I'll give him credit for giving the kill command.

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 09:06:23 AM
From FNC. Full story here. (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/02/inside-raid-killed-bin-laden/)


Quote
WASHINGTON –  Helicopters descended out of darkness on the most important counterterrorism mission in U.S. history. It was an operation so secret, only a select few U.S. officials knew what was about to happen.

The location was a fortified compound in an affluent Pakistani town two hours outside Islamabad. The target was Usama bin Laden.

Intelligence officials discovered the compound in August while monitoring an Al Qaeda courier. The CIA had been hunting that courier for years, ever since detainees told interrogators that the courier was so trusted by bin Laden that he might very well be living with the Al Qaeda leader.

Nestled in an affluent neighborhood, the compound was surrounded by walls as high as 18 feet, topped with barbed wire. Two security gates guarded the only way in. A third-floor terrace was shielded by a seven-foot privacy wall. No phone lines or Internet cables ran to the property. The residents burned their garbage rather than put it out for collection. Intelligence officials believed the million-dollar compound was built five years ago to protect a major terrorist figure. The question was, who?
The CIA asked itself again and again who might be living behind those walls. Each time, they concluded it was almost certainly bin Laden.

President Barack Obama described the operation in broad strokes Sunday night. Details were provided in interviews with counterterrorism and intelligence authorities, senior administration officials and other U.S. officials. All spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive operation.

By mid-February, intelligence from multiple sources was clear enough that Obama wanted to "pursue an aggressive course of action," a senior administration official said. Over the next two and a half months, Obama led five meetings of the National Security Council focused solely on whether bin Laden was in that compound and, if so, how to get him, the official said.

Normally, the U.S. shares its counterterrorism intelligence widely with trusted allies in Britain, Canada, Australia and elsewhere. And the U.S. normally does not carry out ground operations inside Pakistan without collaboration with Pakistani intelligence. But this mission was too important and too secretive.

On April 29, Obama approved an operation to kill bin Laden. It was a mission that required surgical accuracy, even more precision than could be delivered by the government's sophisticated Predator drones. To execute it, Obama tapped a small contingent of the Navy's elite SEAL Team Six and put them under the command of CIA Director Leon Panetta, whose analysts monitored the compound from afar.

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 09:17:00 AM
I'm so very proud of our armed forces on a job well done.  ::USA::

I've heard that Osama was finally caught due to intelligence gathered from interogating a Gitmo detainee who pinpointed the trusted courier,and turned out to be housing Osama in Pakistan.

I'm anticipating some leftie asking me if I'm proud of Obama, and I'll say if Obama gives credit to Gitmo interrogation officers, I'll give him credit for giving the kill command.



Read the posting by Ace. He infers from the WaPo article that the intelligence came from two sources. One was KSM and the other was "Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi, a former major in Saddam Hussein’s army" both of whom reside at Club Gitmo.

I am sure that more info will be forthcoming as "anonymous sources" inside the notoriously amateurish administration blab to their friends in the MFM.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 02, 2011, 09:20:20 AM
Gitmo vindicated
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Libertas on May 02, 2011, 09:22:31 AM
Another accomplishment Six can add to their resume.

http://www.shadowspear.com/united-states-special-operations/joint-special-operations-command/devgru.html (http://www.shadowspear.com/united-states-special-operations/joint-special-operations-command/devgru.html)

 ::USA::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 02, 2011, 09:23:18 AM
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED ::USA::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 09:26:54 AM
Gitmo vindicated

GWB/Cheney vindicated...enhanced interrogation techniques vindicated...but don't expect to hear about it any time soon. That's not the way it works.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 09:29:21 AM
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED ::USA::

Actually, if they have any brains at all, that's the last thing they should claim. Any retaliation at all would nullify a "mission accomplished" statement. They're pretty stupid but I don't think they are THAT stupid as to forget how they beat the sh*t out of GWB for years over a sign on a carrier that he had nothing to do with.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 02, 2011, 09:31:09 AM
My brother sent me a text message last night when he heard the news, said UBL was dead, I replied he was dead at birth, his body merely caught up to him at last.

I'm glad he's dead, but my elation is dampened by the fact that we knew he was in Pakistan and as such had to have help from Pakistani's to stay there...that it took so long to get him is annoying as hell and illustrates how a lack of intelligence and resolve in our political leadership and kowtowing to political sideshows can tie our own hands.

I'm proud of my Navy and their role in taking this evil bastard down.  It is the soldiers, sailors, flyboys and marines that deserve to celebrate and we should celebrate them for all they have done for us!  Politicians who have done nothing deserve no thanks, they have not done all that they could do to assist our service members.  This is a military victory, not a political victory, period!

Well done my brethren!

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Patriots/militarysalute.gif)

 ::thumbsup::

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 02, 2011, 09:31:34 AM
Gitmo vindicated

GWB/Cheney vindicated...but don't expect to hear about it any time soon. That's not the way it works.

Yes, you are right.

I was just thinking about how the left wanted to get rid of it and it's usually pointed to as one of the things BO has failed to accomplish.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 09:32:22 AM
Now there is only one terror mastermind unaccounted for...


(http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/1526/bert1ll0.jpg)
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 02, 2011, 09:34:36 AM
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED ::USA::

Actually, if they have any brains at all, that's the last thing they should claim. Any retaliation at all would nullify a "mission accomplished" statement. They're pretty stupid but I don't think they are THAT stupid as to forget how they beat the sh*t out of GWB for years over a sign on a carrier that he had nothing to do with.

No, I wouldn't want them to either. That was more for my own pleasure.  I know folks who reached the point of thinking it didn't matter if we ever got him.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 09:35:03 AM
A celebratory image just for our Islamist friends:

(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2679/toilet21ie7.jpg)
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 02, 2011, 09:37:10 AM
Now there is only one terror mastermind unaccounted for...


hahahaha
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 02, 2011, 09:37:59 AM
A celebratory image just for our Islamist friends:


That's good.

 ::cool::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Libertas on May 02, 2011, 10:04:22 AM
A celebratory image just for our Islamist friends:

(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2679/toilet21ie7.jpg)

Fire away!

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 10:06:58 AM
A celebratory image just for our Islamist friends:

(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2679/toilet21ie7.jpg)

Fire away!

 ::thumbsup::

Did someone say "fire?"

(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2613/burningquranstagedlebanyz8.jpg)
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: tjking on May 02, 2011, 10:07:15 AM
Did Waterboarding provide the intel that lead to OBL death?


First off, regarding my wager on the Obama/Osama name confusion in the media, I have been up for an hour and have already stumbled across my first one...

http://patriotupdate.com/6343/msnbc-correspondent-accidentally-tweets-%E2%80%98obama%E2%80%99-killed (http://patriotupdate.com/6343/msnbc-correspondent-accidentally-tweets-%E2%80%98obama%E2%80%99-killed)

I found an extremely ironic tidbit this morning.

Fox News reported this morning that the intelligence lead that resulted in Osama Bin Laden's death came from Camp Gitmo. And furthermore, it came from a recipient of the waterboarding technique.

Ahem.

Let that sink in.

Abu Faraq al Libbi, who lived in Abbotabad and KSM who was waterboarded gave the name of the courier and his brother that were considered the only couriers that OBL trusted. Once put under surveillance, this trail brought the Navy Seals to Osama Bin Laden's bedroom.

Checkmate.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/161005/key-al-qaeda-operative-lived-in-abbottabad-in-2003/ (http://tribune.com.pk/story/161005/key-al-qaeda-operative-lived-in-abbottabad-in-2003/)

http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/05/01/did-gitmo-terrorists-provide-the-crucial-leads-to-bin-laden/ (http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/05/01/did-gitmo-terrorists-provide-the-crucial-leads-to-bin-laden/)
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 10:10:57 AM
Quote
First off, regarding my wager on the Obama/Osama name confusion in the media, I have been up for an hour and have already stumbled across my first one...

Geraldo did it too. I caught it and documented it here. (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,1295.msg14181.html#msg14181)
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Glock32 on May 02, 2011, 10:11:27 AM
One possibility that has been pondered for years is that when OBL is finally killed, will that trigger planned actions by cells around the world.

The liberals again demonstrate their inconsistency and hypocrisy by lauding their President and making snide comments like "he did what Bush couldn't do in 7.5 years!" If Bush had launched a ground operation deep inside Pakistan, we'd be hearing about this being his Cambodia and Laos escalation, he violated the sovereignty of Pakistan, and so on.

Looks like Obama's foot soldiers already had the memo last night:

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/05/02/article-1382645-0BDDF0CE00000578-135_634x509.jpg)

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 02, 2011, 10:12:02 AM
If it turns out that Abu Faraq al Libbi coughed up his intel during a waterboarding session, it will just piss all over the Leftist narrative. Thus I would look for an effort to avoid that information being revealed.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 10:19:05 AM
On the other hand it would make a great backhanded compliment to the admin that would piss off his base:

The Obama Administration: We Do Torture Right!
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: tjking on May 02, 2011, 10:20:49 AM
If it turns out that Abu Faraq al Libbi coughed up his intel during a waterboarding session, it will just piss all over the Leftist narrative. Thus I would look for an effort to avoid that information being revealed.
I just corrected my above post. Fox claimed KSM did also provide the name of the courier, but I have only found evidence that Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, Abu Zubayda and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri were waterboarded, although al Libbi did experience enhanced interogation techniques, it may come to light that he got the trickle down treatment as well.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 10:21:57 AM
You gotta love the angst as reported by Jake Tapper: (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/05/white-house-officials-debate-releasing-photographs-of-bin-ladens-corpse-1.html)

Quote
The Obama administration has photographs of Osama bin Laden’s dead body and officials are debating what to do with them and whether they should be released to the public, officials tell ABC News.

“There’s no doubt it’s him,” says a US official who has seen the pictures and also reminds us that OBL was 6’4”.

The argument for releasing them: to ensure that the public knows and can appreciate that he's dead. There is of course skepticism throughout the world that the US government claim that it killed bin Laden is true.

The argument against releasing the pictures: they’re gruesome. He has a massive head wound above his left eye where he took bullet, with brains and blood visible. :D

In July 2003, the US government released photographs of Saddam Hussein’s dead sons Uday and Qusay Hussain but not until after they’d been touched up by a mortician, making them look not quite real.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: tjking on May 02, 2011, 10:23:37 AM
Quote
First off, regarding my wager on the Obama/Osama name confusion in the media, I have been up for an hour and have already stumbled across my first one...

Geraldo did it too. I caught it and documented it here. (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,1295.msg14181.html#msg14181)
Last night I recommended a betting pool be created to see how many times the MSM slips with the names which would prove how out of practice they are in using the name, since they intentionally have tried to downplay his existence since Obama was elected.

So as far as I know thats two Osama/Obama slips so far...and counting.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 10:24:39 AM
Quote
First off, regarding my wager on the Obama/Osama name confusion in the media, I have been up for an hour and have already stumbled across my first one...

Geraldo did it too. I caught it and documented it here. (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,1295.msg14181.html#msg14181)
Last night I recommended a betting pool be created to see how many times the MSM slips with the names which would prove how out of practice they are in using the name, since they intentionally have tried to downplay his existence since Obama was elected.

So as far as I know thats two Osama/Obama slips so far...and counting.

It's damned easy to do, too. Limbaugh used to play an audio clip of Ted Kennedy doing it.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 02, 2011, 10:26:15 AM
I kept saying Obama instead of Osama last might.  My daughter laughed at me, teasing me until she did it too! I have to switch to saying Bin Laden.

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Libertas on May 02, 2011, 10:27:29 AM
You gotta love the angst as reported by Jake Tapper: (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/05/white-house-officials-debate-releasing-photographs-of-bin-ladens-corpse-1.html)

Quote
The Obama administration has photographs of Osama bin Laden’s dead body and officials are debating what to do with them and whether they should be released to the public, officials tell ABC News.

“There’s no doubt it’s him,” says a US official who has seen the pictures and also reminds us that OBL was 6’4”.

The argument for releasing them: to ensure that the public knows and can appreciate that he's dead. There is of course skepticism throughout the world that the US government claim that it killed bin Laden is true.

The argument against releasing the pictures: they’re gruesome. He has a massive head wound above his left eye where he took bullet, with brains and blood visible. :D

In July 2003, the US government released photographs of Saddam Hussein’s dead sons Uday and Qusay Hussain but not until after they’d been touched up by a mortician, making them look not quite real.

Can't wait to see the pics...I want to put them on as many t-shirts as I can!

 ;D
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 10:34:01 AM
It's actually a little surprising that Toonces pushed the button on this when he did. There was probably good reason to believe that OBL wasn't going anywhere. He probably felt perfectly safe where he was...eighteen foot walls topped with barbed wire in a friendly country...police station across the street...Pakistan 2nd Army HQ just around the corner.

Toonces could have held out until just before the election to kill the bastard.

Makes you wonder.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Predator Don on May 02, 2011, 10:34:18 AM
Ok......One(1) down, two(2) billion to go.

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: radioman on May 02, 2011, 10:36:19 AM
Well, since they got rid of the body so quick,

I see the "Elvis Sighting Syndrome' frenzy for the next 100 years or so, coming on......

He'll probably fist be sighted in brazil.....just saying.....
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 10:37:57 AM
Ok......One(1) down, two(2) billion to go.



Yes, the grownups know this. Very few of them will actually say it but they know that it's the truth nonetheless.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 02, 2011, 10:42:17 AM
Ok......One(1) down, two(2) billion to go.



Yes, the grownups know this. Very few of them will actually say it but they know that it's the truth nonetheless.

Funny thing about truth the libs don't want to acknowledge--it doesn't depend on the number who accept it--it's still the truth.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 10:43:02 AM
Limbaugh goes on the air in another twenty minutes. Should be an interesting show with lots to talk about. I expect him to compliment Toonces for having the courage to authorize the mission. Libs like to pretend that they are all non-violent, cute and cuddly types but they are every bit as ruthless as anyone else out there when they have to be. In not a few cases they are above the median percentile in violence and ruthlessness. But that's not mentioned in polite conversation.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Glock32 on May 02, 2011, 10:50:09 AM
As shown on Pakistani TV:

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/05/02/article-1382649-0BDE20E900000578-12_634x324.jpg)
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: tjking on May 02, 2011, 10:54:04 AM
If it turns out that Abu Faraq al Libbi coughed up his intel during a waterboarding session, it will just piss all over the Leftist narrative. Thus I would look for an effort to avoid that information being revealed.
I just corrected my above post. Fox claimed KSM did also provide the name of the courier, but I have only found evidence that Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, Abu Zubayda and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri were waterboarded, although al Libbi did experience enhanced interogation techniques, it may come to light that he got the trickle down treatment as well.

It appears Al Libbi may have coughed it up during waterboarding, but again, the story is still coming out. I was a bit confused by the existence of two al-Libbis that are both high value detainees.

This might provide some detail:

http://swampland.time.com/2011/05/02/the-cia-gets-it-right/ (http://swampland.time.com/2011/05/02/the-cia-gets-it-right/)
Quote
The fact that the initial tip about the courier emerged from detainee interrogations needs to be unpacked. Were any “enhanced interrogation techniques” used to obtain information about the courier? KSM and al Libbi are two of the small number of detainees who were waterboarded, a technique Obama and current CIA chief Leon Panetta have repeatedly decried as torture. There can be little question that both Al Libbi and KSM were questioned about the courier, whom the CIA was pursuing aggressively, according to the senior administration official:

   
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Four years ago, we uncovered his identity, and for operational reasons, I can’t go into details about his name or how we identified him, but about two years ago, after months of persistent effort, we identified areas in Pakistan where the courier and his brother operated. Still we were unable to pinpoint exactly where they lived, due to extensive operational security on their part. The fact that they were being so careful reinforced our belief that we were on the right track.

    Then in August 2010, we found their residence, a compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, a town about 35 miles north of Islamabad. The area is relatively affluent, with lots of retired military. It’s also insolated [sic] from the natural disasters and terrorist attacks that have afflicted other parts of Pakistan.

Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2011/05/02/the-cia-gets-it-right/#ixzz1LD8M8ESZ (http://swampland.time.com/2011/05/02/the-cia-gets-it-right/#ixzz1LD8M8ESZ)



Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 10:54:23 AM
Sorry, but that's a well known fake picture. Ace documented that first thing this morning.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Glock32 on May 02, 2011, 10:58:14 AM
Somebody needs to tell the Daily Mail
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 11:09:36 AM
Perhaps the reason that Toonces acted when he did was to allow him to move on one of his other major initiatives: ending the global war on terror.

Now that he has managed to bag OBL he can use that as a marker, a milestone to declare victory and bring the troops home. Perhaps he thinks that he will be able to make the announcement next spring and that it will somehow boost his popularity just enough to win re-election.

Don't know but there has to be some reason for making his move when he did.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Alphabet Soup on May 02, 2011, 11:11:30 AM
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First off, regarding my wager on the Obama/Osama name confusion in the media, I have been up for an hour and have already stumbled across my first one...

Geraldo did it too. I caught it and documented it here. (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,1295.msg14181.html#msg14181)

I stand in awe of your obvious iron-clad constitution. It takes a strong stomach to withstand more than a microsecond of jerry rivers  :o
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 11:14:40 AM
Quote
First off, regarding my wager on the Obama/Osama name confusion in the media, I have been up for an hour and have already stumbled across my first one...

Geraldo did it too. I caught it and documented it here. (http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,1295.msg14181.html#msg14181)

I stand in awe of your obvious iron-clad constitution. It takes a strong stomach to withstand more than a microsecond of jerry rivers  :o

It was painful. He was positively orgasmic about the whole thing. It took a long time for FNC to get some grownups into the anchor chairs. I never thought I would ever be so glad to see and hear Greta.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: tjking on May 02, 2011, 11:18:06 AM
Sorry, but that's a well known fake picture. Ace documented that first thing this morning.
I saw the picture last night before Obama gave his speech. Its been around the internet for some time.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: radioman on May 02, 2011, 11:20:09 AM
Dang! Rush doesn't sound like a racist bigot this morning in his praise of obama. What's up with that?
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Predator Don on May 02, 2011, 11:21:36 AM
And I turn on Fox this morning,,,,,,and there he is again...... ::puke::

The big puke with all his little puke friends.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: tjking on May 02, 2011, 11:21:49 AM
When the administration says OBL was buried at sea and that his body was handled "according to Islamic tradition", does that mean they dragged Osama Bin Laden's naked corpse down dirt roads behind a Toyota pickup before sawing off his head and then waving his severed head in front of cameras while screaming "God is great"?

Just wondering.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Predator Don on May 02, 2011, 11:23:06 AM
When the administration says OBL was buried at sea and that his body was handled "according to Islamic tradition", does that mean they dragged Osama Bin Laden's naked corpse down dirt roads behind a Toyota pickup before sawing off his head and then waving his severed head in front of cameras while screaming "God is great"?

Just wondering.

If the bullet struck right, there wouldn't be much head to sever.....
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 02, 2011, 11:29:02 AM
When the administration says OBL was buried at sea and that his body was handled "according to Islamic tradition", does that mean they dragged Osama Bin Laden's naked corpse down dirt roads behind a Toyota pickup before sawing off his head and then waving his severed head in front of cameras while screaming "God is great"?

Just wondering.

When you're right you're right.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Libertas on May 02, 2011, 11:33:53 AM
Some key take away's -

Can't live in that town without Paki help, period -

"The city of about 100,000 people is the center of a region dominated by army facilities and weapons factories."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-02/u-s-forces-were-unsure-bin-laden-in-house-until-meeting-him-face-to-face.html (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-02/u-s-forces-were-unsure-bin-laden-in-house-until-meeting-him-face-to-face.html)

The Paki's know it!  

Former Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf on Monday accused the U.S. of violating his country’s sovereignty by sending in special forces to kill Osama bin Laden.

“American troops coming across the border and taking action in one of our towns, that is Abbottabad, is not acceptable to the people of Pakistan. It is a violation of our sovereignty,”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/may/2/musharraf-bin-laden-mission-violated-pakistan/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/may/2/musharraf-bin-laden-mission-violated-pakistan/)

The crazies will be pissed, now is the time to throttle them as they come out of their holes!

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/hamas-condemns-killing-holy-warrior-bin-laden-110039788.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/hamas-condemns-killing-holy-warrior-bin-laden-110039788.html)

Including threats of nuclear holocaust...

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8241119/capturing-bin-laden-would-unleash-hell (http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8241119/capturing-bin-laden-would-unleash-hell)

They do that, Mecca & Medina are vaporized and The Dome of The Rock is bulldozed!

And here at home, the sqeamish Left doesn't want to give me my t-shirt material, damn them!

White House Officials Debate Releasing Photographs of Bin Laden’s Corpse -

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/05/white-house-officials-debate-releasing-photographs-of-bin-ladens-corpse-1.html (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/05/white-house-officials-debate-releasing-photographs-of-bin-ladens-corpse-1.html)

Release the damn photos!



Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 02, 2011, 11:40:12 AM
White House Officials Debate Releasing Photographs of Bin Laden’s Corpse -

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/05/white-house-officials-debate-releasing-photographs-of-bin-ladens-corpse-1.html (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/05/white-house-officials-debate-releasing-photographs-of-bin-ladens-corpse-1.html)

Release the damn photos!

We'll get it.

In the meantime there's this:

http://www.despair.com/bustedtshirt.html (http://www.despair.com/bustedtshirt.html)
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Glock32 on May 02, 2011, 11:42:02 AM
Yes, release the photos. I want a new wallpaper for my computer.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Libertas on May 02, 2011, 11:43:26 AM
Yes, release the photos. I want a new wallpaper for my computer.

 ;D

This is pretty good too!

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2011/05/on-the-lighter-side.html#tp (http://www.blackfive.net/main/2011/05/on-the-lighter-side.html#tp)
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: tjking on May 02, 2011, 11:43:54 AM
The crazies will be pissed, now is the time to throttle them as they come out of their holes!


Hey wait a minute. I thought that's what the left has been telling us for years... "Don't enter sovereign countries that haven't done ANYTHING to us and kill people because it will just anger them and act as a 'recruiting tool' for terrorist organizations. It will just cause them to kill more Americans"

My response to that was the same as yours. If it recruits more slimeballs and they all come to the same place, I call that a target rich kill zone.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Libertas on May 02, 2011, 11:51:44 AM
The crazies will be pissed, now is the time to throttle them as they come out of their holes!


Hey wait a minute. I thought that's what the left has been telling us for years... "Don't enter sovereign countries that haven't done ANYTHING to us and kill people because it will just anger them and act as a 'recruiting tool' for terrorist organizations. It will just cause them to kill more Americans"

My response to that was the same as yours. If it recruits more slimballs and they all come to the same place, I call that a target rich kill zone.

Yup.  And it is my fear that they (The Regime) will retreat once more into their shell of ignorance and return us to half-assed measures to get the rest of this scum.  It was the intelligence community and the military that forced this action, if left to his own devices Duh Wun would have liked to not have made any decision at all.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Libertas on May 02, 2011, 11:53:52 AM
Pics w/o bodies.

(sigh)

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/abc-releases-exclusive-video-allegedly-taken-inside-obls-compound-after-the-raid/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/abc-releases-exclusive-video-allegedly-taken-inside-obls-compound-after-the-raid/)

More info on compound & op.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/more-details-emerge-describing-the-incredible-covert-obl-operation/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/more-details-emerge-describing-the-incredible-covert-obl-operation/)
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: tjking on May 02, 2011, 11:54:18 AM
Rush is following the same line of thought on waterboarding making this operation possible. He also reminded us about the lefts opposition to rendition operations, which this obviously was, even though Bin Laden didn't live long enough to get water sprinkled over his head.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Pandora on May 02, 2011, 11:54:58 AM
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Bin Laden
Posted by Ann Barnhardt - May 2, AD 2011 8:23 AM MST
I've tried to get excited about the Bin Laden news, and tried to get pumped-up for the military and the guys who they say "took him out", but I find myself completely unable to believe any of this. Bin Laden, like most muslims, was very inbred, and had a genetic kidney defect. He had been in a state of renal failure for years. I was working off the assumption that he had been dead for a very long time - hence no videos from him.

Now, just as Obama is tanking in the polls, inflation is soaring and on the cusp of a massive acceleration, Obama commits a proven felony by releasing a proved forged birth certificate, his father's extremely unflattering records are released, Bin Laden is suddenly "killed" on the same date that GWB did his "mission accomplished" speech, and the press conference is timed and delayed so as to completely pre-empt Donald Trump's television show. Oh, and there are no photographs released and the body was "buried at sea" within a matter of hours.

I really want to believe that our Boys brought the awesomeness, but I'm really, really struggling with all of this. Call me cynical. I guess being lied to by Communists unceasingly for years on end will do that to a person.

I'm with Ann.

I really wish she'd activate a permalink function on her site.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Libertas on May 02, 2011, 11:56:51 AM
Rush is following the same line of thought on waterboarding making this operation possible. He also reminded us about the lefts opposition to rendition operations, which this obviously was, even though Bin Laden didn't live long enough to get water sprinkled over his head.

Yeah, so far the role of EIT's and anything attributable to Bush Era SOP's in the War On Terror is being conveniently downplayed by the MFM.  To them it's all about Barry's brilliance in single-handedly bringing Enemy #1 down.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Libertas on May 02, 2011, 12:01:23 PM
Quote
Bin Laden
Posted by Ann Barnhardt - May 2, AD 2011 8:23 AM MST
I've tried to get excited about the Bin Laden news, and tried to get pumped-up for the military and the guys who they say "took him out", but I find myself completely unable to believe any of this. Bin Laden, like most muslims, was very inbred, and had a genetic kidney defect. He had been in a state of renal failure for years. I was working off the assumption that he had been dead for a very long time - hence no videos from him.

Now, just as Obama is tanking in the polls, inflation is soaring and on the cusp of a massive acceleration, Obama commits a proven felony by releasing a proved forged birth certificate, his father's extremely unflattering records are released, Bin Laden is suddenly "killed" on the same date that GWB did his "mission accomplished" speech, and the press conference is timed and delayed so as to completely pre-empt Donald Trump's television show. Oh, and there are no photographs released and the body was "buried at sea" within a matter of hours.

I really want to believe that our Boys brought the awesomeness, but I'm really, really struggling with all of this. Call me cynical. I guess being lied to by Communists unceasingly for years on end will do that to a person.

I'm with Ann.

I really wish she'd activate a permalink function on her site.

I have no doubt political calculations on the timing came into play, no doubt at all.  It did have the fortunate side effect of giving the team more time to prepare and rehearse the op, and the end result is positive...but the battle to control the narrartive has begun and in that we have to fight not just the WH but the MFM and those in our own ranks who defer the narrative to Obama.

Where is Boehner, McConnel & any presumptive leader on our side?!?!?!

 ::facepalm::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 02, 2011, 12:01:57 PM
Yes, release the photos. I want a new wallpaper for my computer.

 ;D

This is pretty good too!

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2011/05/on-the-lighter-side.html#tp (http://www.blackfive.net/main/2011/05/on-the-lighter-side.html#tp)

those were good
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: ToddF on May 02, 2011, 12:09:34 PM
http://weaselzippers.us/2011/05/02/inside-seal-team-6-the-men-who-killed-osama-bin-laden/#comments (http://weaselzippers.us/2011/05/02/inside-seal-team-6-the-men-who-killed-osama-bin-laden/#comments)

Reads like an advance of the next Vince Flynn novel.

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: RickZ on May 02, 2011, 12:27:41 PM
So Binnie Boy was killed in Abbottabad.  Does Pakistan have a Costellobad?

/Who's on first.  What's on second.  I don't know's on third.  And Binnie Boy's sleepin' wid da fishes.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Libertas on May 02, 2011, 12:29:55 PM
http://weaselzippers.us/2011/05/02/inside-seal-team-6-the-men-who-killed-osama-bin-laden/#comments (http://weaselzippers.us/2011/05/02/inside-seal-team-6-the-men-who-killed-osama-bin-laden/#comments)

Reads like an advance of the next Vince Flynn novel.



Pretty good!

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Sectionhand on May 02, 2011, 12:33:31 PM


Release the damn photos!



U.S. citizens paid for those pics ! I want some  8"X10" glossies and a full set of wallet sized ! 
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Sectionhand on May 02, 2011, 12:37:16 PM
So Binnie Boy was killed in Abbottabad.  Does Pakistan have a Costellobad?

/Who's on first.  What's on second.  I don't know's on third.  And Binnie Boy's sleepin' wid da fishes.

I threw that one at a friend of mine in Dallas a few hours ago . Great minds think alike !
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Libertas on May 02, 2011, 01:02:38 PM
My co-worker one-upped me this morning. 

I told him if I was Prez I would want that kill trophy prominently displayed...ala Vlad the Impaler, Osama's head on a pike on the WH lawn complete with flood lighting.

My co-worker said Osama's carcass should have been paraded around the nation for people to spit or whatever upon...

I am starting to really like my co-worker's idea!
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: RickZ on May 02, 2011, 01:09:26 PM
The thing that still amazes me, in a profoundly good way, was the spontaneous celebration in Times Square after midnight.

I wonder if the so-called Arab street noticed this.  We celebrated without organizing from the local imam, not in the convenient afternoon, and certainly not within walking distance.  You can run, you can hide, but we'll get ya in the end, bitches.

I had a cardio appointment today and handed out mini Tootsie Rolls.  Some people got it and devoured the Tootsie Rolls with a smile on their faces.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Pandora on May 02, 2011, 01:13:10 PM
The thing that still amazes me, in a profoundly good way, was the spontaneous celebration in Times Square after midnight.

I wonder if the so-called Arab street noticed this.  We celebrated without organizing from the local imam, not in the convenient afternoon, and certainly not within walking distance.  You can run, you can hide, but we'll get ya in the end, bitches.

I had a cardio appointment today and handed out mini Tootsie Rolls.  Some people got it and devoured the Tootsie Rolls with a smile on their faces.

Well done!
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: John Florida on May 02, 2011, 01:22:50 PM
My co-worker one-upped me this morning. 

I told him if I was Prez I would want that kill trophy prominently displayed...ala Vlad the Impaler, Osama's head on a pike on the WH lawn complete with flood lighting.

My co-worker said Osama's carcass should have been paraded around the nation for people to spit or whatever upon...

I am starting to really like my co-worker's idea!

 Make him part of the new towers,stick hi carcass in the foundation of one of them and don't say which one. No Arab will attack them again.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: michelleo on May 02, 2011, 01:26:19 PM
Now I'm hearing the second guy who gave us the name of the courier was a detainee subjected to rendition at one of the secret CIA foreign intelligence installation.  Could this be a 2-for-1 vindication for both Gitmo and secret rendition?!
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: John Florida on May 02, 2011, 01:29:15 PM
Now I'm hearing the second guy who gave us the name of the courier was a detainee subjected to rendition at one of the secret CIA foreign intelligence installation.  Could this be a 2-for-1 vindication for both Gitmo and secret rendition?!

 Does it matter the left was against both till his highness took office.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Glock32 on May 02, 2011, 01:33:43 PM
What do you think they plugged his ass with? A 5.56mm from a M4 carbine, or 9mm from a MP5 submachine gun? If it was a 5.56 the whole back of his rag-covered head would've been blown off.

I repeat: pics!  ::cool::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Pandora on May 02, 2011, 01:36:02 PM
I was able to avoid have to listen to the F-stick in Chief last night.  Today, there's clips all over the radio.

It's to  ::laserkill::

I need a nap.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Libertas on May 02, 2011, 01:55:07 PM
What do you think they plugged his ass with? A 5.56mm from a M4 carbine, or 9mm from a MP5 submachine gun? If it was a 5.56 the whole back of his rag-covered head would've been blown off.

I repeat: pics!  ::cool::

Indeed.  Sometimes SpecOp's like 6.8SPC too, that'd make a nice set of exit wounds!

 ::whoohoo::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Libertas on May 02, 2011, 01:56:36 PM
I was able to avoid have to listen to the F-stick in Chief last night.  Today, there's clips all over the radio.

It's to  ::laserkill::

I need a nap.

I know.  All I have to do is hear his damned voice and I can barely stand it!

 ::gaah::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: John Florida on May 02, 2011, 02:18:48 PM
I was able to avoid have to listen to the F-stick in Chief last night.  Today, there's clips all over the radio.

It's to  ::laserkill::

I need a nap.

I know.  All I have to do is hear his damned voice and I can barely stand it!

 ::gaah::
I went to bed early so I didn't have to hear his ass.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Glock32 on May 02, 2011, 02:27:21 PM
From The Daily Mail:

Quote
Officials say CIA interrogators in secret overseas prisons developed the first strands of information that ultimately led to the killing of bin Laden.

9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed provided the nom de guerre of one of bin Laden's most trusted aides. The CIA got similar information from Mohammed's successor, Abu Faraj al-Libi.

Both were subjected to harsh interrogation tactics inside CIA prisons in Poland and Romania.

Former U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney defended waterboarding in 2008 after it was authorised for use on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and two other accused Al Qaeda members during 2002 and 2003.

The libs who are now gleefully ridiculing Bush for not nabbing him were the same ones calling for him and Cheney to be tried at The Hague for treating these barbarian scumbags like barbarian scumbags.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: tjking on May 02, 2011, 02:37:33 PM
The Democrats and especially Obama keep talking about "Unity". Last night he said we should try to remember how great it was when we were all unified after 911.

First, we weren't all unified. The UFPJ and the ANSWER Network who later would become responsible for all of the major anti-war protests (including opposition to Afghanistan) called  a meeting in lower Manhattan just blocks from the still smoldering WTC 3 days after 911. They developed a plan to oppose the imminent response by the US government. One of those rallies in Chicago, featured Barack Obama who made his now famous anti-war speech that acted as his primary tool to bludgeon Hillary Clinton out of the Oval Office. No, not everyone was unified and Obama exploited that by siding with the ones who threw stumbling blocks in front of our military and our President.

Second, Why is he so hungry for unity? Its pretty clear he doesn't want unity based on love of our country. He wants unity for support of him. Sounds like projection. Wasn't Bush accused of trying to use war to gin up patriotism to profit for himself personally.

Third, how did we become dis-unified? The pivot point that made the Answer Network lefties go viral was Howard Dean firing up the netroots in 2003 and when he proved a candidate could make money lying about our President and using Vietnam era anti-military rants, greed and lust for power flipped every major Democrat, except Joe Lieberman (who was crucified for it). Obama portrayed himself as being at the forefront of the anti-war Democrats.

Today is a day to remember that Gitmo, Rendition, remaining in Iraq and Afghanistan, drone attacks, military tribunals, sending commandos into a sovereign nation and an endless list of once demonic policies are now the tools Obama and his political allies are claiming will propel him to a second term and a fast track to sainthood. He is asking for unity based on policies that he criticized in order to win the Presidency that he now is trying to prop up as the primary reason for him to be re-elected.

I went to the Answer coalition website and UFPJ. Any mention of disaproval with the operation that killed OBL? Not a peep.

Just like Clinton's wag the dog, his military operations are based on domestic political approval ratings to keep him in power, period. You can bomb anyone, wiretap anyone, invade anyone, as long as it serves the purpose of keeping a socialist in power in America.

When Obama calls for unity based on a successful military operation after all of the disunity he has sown, I can't help but be reminded of an old joke.

A farmer and his wife were driving through town in their pickup and noticed a young couple in a similar truck. The young couple were sitting close together and the man had his arm around his woman. The wife said, "Its been a many years since we did that. Why don't we do that anymore?" The husband said, "In all these years, I've never moved".

Obama wants Unity? Bush was criticized for being stubborn for sticking to his original mission. Bush never moved.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Libertas on May 02, 2011, 02:38:09 PM
From The Daily Mail:

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Officials say CIA interrogators in secret overseas prisons developed the first strands of information that ultimately led to the killing of bin Laden.

9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed provided the nom de guerre of one of bin Laden's most trusted aides. The CIA got similar information from Mohammed's successor, Abu Faraj al-Libi.

Both were subjected to harsh interrogation tactics inside CIA prisons in Poland and Romania.

Former U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney defended waterboarding in 2008 after it was authorised for use on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and two other accused Al Qaeda members during 2002 and 2003.

The libs who are now gleefully ridiculing Bush for not nabbing him were the same ones calling for him and Cheney to be tried at The Hague for treating these barbarian scumbags like barbarian scumbags.

Lies, damn lies...and the there's leftists!
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: John Florida on May 02, 2011, 02:56:59 PM
And I'm starting to believe all this Pakistaaaaaan knew nothing about this is BS all this is is us giving cover to somebody inside the Paki government. There is no way that we just went into Pakistaaan and crossed into their air space and had a 40 minute fire fight and flew back out un challenged is nuts. In day to come we will start to hear that Pakistaaaan is on fire over this as they start to piece it together in the AQ organization.

 We had help even if it was in the form of silence.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Glock32 on May 02, 2011, 03:09:44 PM
There is some speculation that the recent 650 million pound "aid" given to Pakistan by Britain was actually a bribe to enable this operation. Who knows? It's as plausible as anything. Pakistan is deeply interwoven into Islamism.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: John Florida on May 02, 2011, 03:42:47 PM
There is some speculation that the recent 650 million pound "aid" given to Pakistan by Britain was actually a bribe to enable this operation. Who knows? It's as plausible as anything. Pakistan is deeply interwoven into Islamism.

 The money came from the Brits so it doesn't point to us? Makes as much sense as any other theory.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 02, 2011, 03:43:59 PM
And I'm starting to believe all this Pakistaaaaaan knew nothing about this is BS all this is is us giving cover to somebody inside the Paki government. There is no way that we just went into Pakistaaan and crossed into their air space and had a 40 minute fire fight and flew back out un challenged is nuts. In day to come we will start to hear that Pakistaaaan is on fire over this as they start to piece it together in the AQ organization.

 We had help even if it was in the form of silence.

Right.  
Envision, in a neighborhood of military retirees right next to West Point a forty minute firefight going silent.  
I can't either.

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 03:51:56 PM
And I'm starting to believe all this Pakistaaaaaan knew nothing about this is BS all this is is us giving cover to somebody inside the Paki government. There is no way that we just went into Pakistaaan and crossed into their air space and had a 40 minute fire fight and flew back out un challenged is nuts. In day to come we will start to hear that Pakistaaaan is on fire over this as they start to piece it together in the AQ organization.

 We had help even if it was in the form of silence.

Right.  
Envision, in a neighborhood of military retirees right next to West Point a forty minute firefight.  I can't either.



I would think that if Pakistan was given any notice about the operation it was probably about ten or fifteen minutes before it had boots on the ground. There is every reason to believe that if Pakistan had any more prior knowledge of the attack then OBL would have been long gone by the time we got there.

I see no reason why we could not get into a "third world country but with nukes" covertly.

If the operation took place entirely within the compound then any Pakistani military types (active or retired) would have had to deal with the semi-impregnable walls that surrounded the place.

All speculation though, eh?
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 02, 2011, 03:57:14 PM

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All speculation though, eh?

For sure.

Another thought about the noise, noise suppressors and surprise.  There may not have been as much clatter as I originally speculated.  Is that sound suppression of rotors a movie accessory or a reality?

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: John Florida on May 02, 2011, 04:01:15 PM
And I'm starting to believe all this Pakistaaaaaan knew nothing about this is BS all this is is us giving cover to somebody inside the Paki government. There is no way that we just went into Pakistaaan and crossed into their air space and had a 40 minute fire fight and flew back out un challenged is nuts. In day to come we will start to hear that Pakistaaaan is on fire over this as they start to piece it together in the AQ organization.

 We had help even if it was in the form of silence.

Right.  
Envision, in a neighborhood of military retirees right next to West Point a forty minute firefight.  I can't either.



I would think that if Pakistan was given any notice about the operation it was probably about ten or fifteen minutes before it had boots on the ground. There is every reason to believe that if Pakistan had any more prior knowledge of the attack then OBL would have been long gone by the time we got there.

I see no reason why we could not get into a "third world country but with nukes" covertly.

If the operation took place entirely within the compound then any Pakistani military types (active or retired) would have had to deal with the semi-impregnable walls that surrounded the place.

All speculation though, eh?


 they may be a turd world contry but they have an airforce and they have Radar and a population that would have heard something and called even the local cops. But nobody showed up to help. Trap they suddenly went mum. They may have been threatened into keeping away. I don't know anything for sure but I know somethin is wrong and soon the AQ types will be seeing too if they already haven't and we may see leaders in Pakistaaan may start to die off.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: John Florida on May 02, 2011, 04:03:02 PM

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All speculation though, eh?

For sure.

Another thought about the noise, noise suppressors and surprise.  There may not have been as much clatter as I originally speculated.  Is that sound suppression of rotors a movie accessory or a reality?



 It's real but it doesn't work at close quarter there has to be a distance to the ground. Suppression or not when those things get close the house shakes like an earth quake.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Glock32 on May 02, 2011, 04:06:27 PM
What I can't imagine is a walled compound being constructed within a few hundred yards of a nation's #1 military academy (they keep likening it to the Pakistani version of Britain's Sandhurst) without somebody from the military/government wanting to know what it was. Whose property? Who lives there? Why the fortifications? The only sensible conclusion as far as I'm concerned is that the Pakistanis knew exactly what it was and were tacitly protecting its residents by allowing it to be so close to their own facilities.

Bin Laden still had access to a lot of money. They said he spent a few years moving from village to village in Waziristan. Upon reaching a new village he would request a meeting with the local honcho and pay a substantial bribe. The very few locals who agreed to report on his movements were always later found sans head. So it's within reason to think he was bribing some key figures in the Pakistani government, plus the more troubling thing is that the Pakis largely sympathize with OBL. They're for damn sure no "allies".
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 02, 2011, 04:10:16 PM

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So it's within reason to think he was bribing some key figures in the Pakistani government, plus the more troubling thing is that the Pakis largely sympathize with OBL. They're for damn sure no "allies".

This could be used strategically with the Pakis to lever a bit of fear and more. 
Too bad Prez is into submission.

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 04:10:49 PM
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The only sensible conclusion as far as I'm concerned is that the Pakistanis knew exactly what it was and were tacitly protecting its residents by allowing it to be so close to their own facilities.

Exactly.

And yes, they were paid off. Which works until someone with a bigger bank account comes around.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 04:15:06 PM

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All speculation though, eh?

For sure.

Another thought about the noise, noise suppressors and surprise.  There may not have been as much clatter as I originally speculated.  Is that sound suppression of rotors a movie accessory or a reality?



I have no idea how rotor tips breaking the sound barrier could be suppressed.

Firearms suppression is not much of a factor either. The silencing helps more with preventing the enemy from acquiring your position than it does toward any stealth capability.

The twitter account posted by a local guy in Pakistan attests to how damn loud everything was. Once the Special Forces arrived it was noisy.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 04:17:18 PM
Hard to believe but Drudge has the flashing light up at his site proclaiming that the actual video from the killing is about to be released.

Or maybe I am misinterpreting it.

Maybe it is the final vid put out by OBL.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 02, 2011, 04:19:25 PM

Heard they had helmet cams but I doubt we will ever get a view.

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 04:19:33 PM
Ah, yes... that's what it is: (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5goImUTnFgQHITWZJdbpPLB6lngWA?docId=ec68f068e92f4c649eb81332d190b7e6)

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. intelligence officials believe Osama bin Laden made a propaganda recording shortly before his death and expect that tape to surface soon.

It is unclear whether the tape is audio or video, but a U.S. official says that intelligence indicates it is already working its way through al-Qaida's media pipeline. The official said the timing was coincidental and there is no indication he knew U.S. forces were bearing down on him.

A new recording from bin Laden would provide a final word from the beyond grave for a terrorist who taunted the U.S. with recorded propaganda for years. It could also provide fodder to those who insist he is still alive.

So it isn't really the final video. Maybe someday...I would pay good money for the head cam vid.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Glock32 on May 02, 2011, 04:24:18 PM
I don't know if helicopter silencing is real or not either. I suppose it's possible to engage a quietER mode, maybe by adjusting the blades' angle of attack or some such, but I doubt it would make much difference at close range. A big portion of the noise of helicopters comes from the tail rotor and the intersection of sound waves between it and the main rotor. Some of the tailless designs can probably be made pretty stealthy, but AFAIK these were good old Blackhawk choppers.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 04:29:36 PM
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Before dawn Monday morning, a pair of helicopters left Jalalabad in eastern Afghanistan. The choppers entered Pakistani airspace using sophisticated technology intended to evade that country's radar systems, a U.S. official said.

LINK (http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=13512344&page=2)
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Glock32 on May 02, 2011, 04:35:04 PM
Oh dear, we've done it now. The Muzzies are all up in arms about the treatment of OBL's bullet-ridden, leaking remains.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382828/Osama-bin-Laden-Why-given-traditional-Islamic-burial.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382828/Osama-bin-Laden-Why-given-traditional-Islamic-burial.html)

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Muslim clerics are predicting revenge attacks against American targets because of the way the government decided to dispose of the leader's body.

A wide range of Islamic scholars interpreted it as a humiliating disregard for the standard Muslim practice of placing the body in a grave with the head pointed toward the holy city of Mecca.

Well if we'd followed their example, he wouldn't have had a head to point towards Mecca. If it makes them feel any better, they can imagine that he will soon be distributed amongst several shark turds pointing towards Mecca.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 04:35:46 PM
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"I think the accomplishment that very brave personnel from the United States government were able to realize yesterday is a defining moment in the war against al-Qaida, the war on terrorism, by decapitating the head of the snake known as al-Qaida," Brennan said.

From the same article linked above. Incredibly stupid and/or naive thing to say. OBL had long since ceased to be of operational or strategic importance to AQ. His death was largely symbolic. Very important but nowhere near as important as this guy is claiming.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 04:38:45 PM
Oh dear, we've done it now. The Muzzies are all up in arms about the treatment of OBL's bullet-ridden, leaking remains.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382828/Osama-bin-Laden-Why-given-traditional-Islamic-burial.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382828/Osama-bin-Laden-Why-given-traditional-Islamic-burial.html)

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Muslim clerics are predicting revenge attacks against American targets because of the way the government decided to dispose of the leader's body.

A wide range of Islamic scholars interpreted it as a humiliating disregard for the standard Muslim practice of placing the body in a grave with the head pointed toward the holy city of Mecca.

Well if we'd followed their example, he wouldn't have had a head to point towards Mecca. If it makes them feel any better, they can imagine that he will soon be distributed amongst several shark turds pointing towards Mecca.

If muzzie clerics are pissed off then it's a double victory.

One: They are pissed. Good. Screw them.

Two: Despite all of their PC BS the Toonces admin screwed the pooch anyway.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 02, 2011, 04:38:52 PM
If it makes them feel any better, they can imagine that he will soon be distributed amongst several shark turds pointing towards Mecca.

 ::laughonfloor::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 02, 2011, 05:18:01 PM
We could settle the "head pointed toward Mecca" issue in several ways I can imagine. For that custom to be followed requires a scuzlim corpse with an intact head, and the city of Mecca. Eliminate either of those factors, and the 'Slims will have to find a new custom.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Pandora on May 02, 2011, 05:20:31 PM
The burial issue makes me want to scream.

WE KILLED THE SONOFABTCH! and they're trying to be careful not to offend via method of burial?!

So, what?  Killing him is acceptable but don't fck with his chances at those 72 raisins?!

 ::gaah::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 02, 2011, 05:34:36 PM
That's a good point pan. I think an honest look at how best to make war against islam would lead any sane person to conclude that we should piss all over the very notion that they adhere to a religion we recognize as legitimate, and go from there.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 02, 2011, 05:41:29 PM
We could settle the "head pointed toward Mecca" issue in several ways I can imagine. For that custom to be followed requires a scuzlim corpse with an intact head, and the city of Mecca. Eliminate either of those factors, and the 'Slims will have to find a new custom.

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 02, 2011, 05:43:05 PM
That's a good point pan. I think an honest look at how best to make war against islam would lead any sane person to conclude that we should piss all over the very notion that they adhere to a religion we recognize as legitimate, and go from there.

You're right.

We accepted their premise that it's a religion.  We should have denied that from the get go.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Pandora on May 02, 2011, 05:44:03 PM
We could settle the "head pointed toward Mecca" issue in several ways I can imagine. For that custom to be followed requires a scuzlim corpse with an intact head, and the city of Mecca. Eliminate either of those factors, and the 'Slims will have to find a new custom.

We could do them a favor by atomizing that shtty rock and they wouldn't have to worry about which way to point.  EVERY way would be fine.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Predator Don on May 02, 2011, 05:47:47 PM
Wouldn't really matter how they treated the corpse......clerics would be upset.....

Now, after this symbolic act, it's back to fighting "the nation of islam (and the obama administration)" and thier attempts to build mosques in America.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: RickZ on May 02, 2011, 05:58:40 PM
We accepted their premise that it's a religion.  We should have denied that from the get go.

'Islam is a reliigion of peace'.  That utterance by Bush may yet be fatal to us.

In the immediate wake of 9/11, I wish Bush had stuck to his Constitutional role of Commander-in-Chief and stayed out of the theology quicksand as pontificating on islamic theological fine points were not part of his presidential job description.  It's very difficult for those in political power to accept we are engaged in a religious war, as it only takes one side to declare religious war.  Islam has declared war on us, but we are not at war with islam.  How's that dichotomy working our for us?
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Pandora on May 02, 2011, 06:00:42 PM
Wouldn't really matter how they treated the corpse......clerics would be upset.....

Now, after this symbolic act, it's back to fighting "the nation of islam (and the obama administration)" and thier attempts to build mosques in America.

I'm not pissed off enough; I needed a reminder of that.  ::gaah::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Glock32 on May 02, 2011, 06:28:52 PM
Wouldn't really matter how they treated the corpse......clerics would be upset.....

Now, after this symbolic act, it's back to fighting "the nation of islam (and the obama administration)" and thier attempts to build mosques in America.

I'm not pissed off enough; I needed a reminder of that.  ::gaah::

And American citizens (Terry Jones) can be arrested for the "crime" of failing to promise to a court that they will not exercise their 1st Amendment rights in proximity of one.

Sorry. :)
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: John Florida on May 02, 2011, 06:47:53 PM
Wouldn't really matter how they treated the corpse......clerics would be upset.....

Now, after this symbolic act, it's back to fighting "the nation of islam (and the obama administration)" and thier attempts to build mosques in America.

I'm not pissed off enough; I needed a reminder of that.  ::gaah::

And American citizens (Terry Jones) can be arrested for the "crime" of failing to promise to a court that they will not exercise their 1st Amendment rights in proximity of one.

Sorry. :)

   Why don't you just poke her in the eye that will make her feel better.Remember Gunsmith has to live there..
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Pandora on May 02, 2011, 06:48:55 PM
 ::saywhat::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: John Florida on May 02, 2011, 06:50:55 PM
::saywhat::

 Well he does!
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Pandora on May 02, 2011, 07:00:50 PM
::saywhat::

 Well he does!

That wasn't for your comment, speedy-fingers; it was for Glock's.

And, yes, he DOES have to live here!

He went to the store for milk (and for ready-made chocolate cake for his peaked and very crabby wife) and when he came he said, "I looked like the main "munchies" buyer (sssssssst, hold, hold, exhale) in the place"; 4 packs of cocoanut-chocolate chip cookies, a Mrs. Smith's apple pie, mint/choc chip ice cream, 4 gallons of milk and two DiGiorrnio's pizzas.

More about what they've done to Mrs. Smith's apple pie in the "Food packaging" thread.

And I hope you guyz know I'm kiddin' about being crabby at y'all.  Mostly.  ;D
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 08:37:04 PM
Saw this (http://gulfnews.com/news/world/other-world/compound-in-pakistan-was-once-a-safe-house-1.802539) at HA and at Ace. The compound/house was a former Pakistani intelligence agency safe house.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Glock32 on May 02, 2011, 09:11:33 PM
And in all these pages of the thread, let us take a moment to recognize the US NAVY for waxing that son of a bitch!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch1UAXp8h8Q&feature=player_embedded

Yeah I'm just a little bit biased, dad is a Navy vet and his dad before him rode amphibious landing craft into Japanese machine gun fire. Go Navy!
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 02, 2011, 09:41:18 PM
Thoughts, prayers, and many thanks to all our mighty warriors who do what hard men must do.

The Warrior Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTs6a0ORdQU#ws)
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 02, 2011, 10:35:13 PM
A bunch of celebs (most of whom I've never heard of) have opinions (like they do on everything even though they are idiots) on the death of OBL.

LINK (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/05/02/death-usama-bin-laden-draws-mixed-reaction-hollywood/?test=faces)

Mostly stupid idiots but there is this one guy I've never heard of...

Joel Madden: America!!! F$CK YEAH!!!
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Sectionhand on May 03, 2011, 04:28:08 AM
The thing that still amazes me, in a profoundly good way, was the spontaneous celebration in Times Square after midnight.

I wonder if the so-called Arab street noticed this.  We celebrated without organizing from the local imam, not in the convenient afternoon, and certainly not within walking distance.  You can run, you can hide, but we'll get ya in the end, bitches.

I had a cardio appointment today and handed out mini Tootsie Rolls.  Some people got it and devoured the Tootsie Rolls with a smile on their faces.

I was telling a friend last night that I don't think there's been such a spontaneous celebration over the demise of one man since the death of Adolph Hitler .
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Sectionhand on May 03, 2011, 04:40:30 AM
There is some speculation that the recent 650 million pound "aid" given to Pakistan by Britain was actually a bribe to enable this operation. Who knows? It's as plausible as anything. Pakistan is deeply interwoven into Islamism.

The Brits don't have 650 million pounds to throw around like that . If it's true , those pounds were originally dollars but in the end I doubt the validity of the wholoe story .
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Sectionhand on May 03, 2011, 04:49:38 AM
What I can't imagine is a walled compound being constructed within a few hundred yards of a nation's #1 military academy (they keep likening it to the Pakistani version of Britain's Sandhurst) without somebody from the military/government wanting to know what it was. Whose property? Who lives there? Why the fortifications? The only sensible conclusion as far as I'm concerned is that the Pakistanis knew exactly what it was and were tacitly protecting its residents by allowing it to be so close to their own facilities.

Bin Laden still had access to a lot of money. They said he spent a few years moving from village to village in Waziristan. Upon reaching a new village he would request a meeting with the local honcho and pay a substantial bribe. The very few locals who agreed to report on his movements were always later found sans head. So it's within reason to think he was bribing some key figures in the Pakistani government, plus the more troubling thing is that the Pakis largely sympathize with OBL. They're for damn sure no "allies".

They most certainly knew . And the INTEL acquired during the raid is a treasure trove and a veritable "Who's Who" of  "Princes , Prime Ministers and Profiteers" . A lot of people are sweating right now over how much of that info will be made public .... And quite a few are concerned that they'll wind up like Bin Laden . 
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Sectionhand on May 03, 2011, 04:52:58 AM
Ah, yes... that's what it is: (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5goImUTnFgQHITWZJdbpPLB6lngWA?docId=ec68f068e92f4c649eb81332d190b7e6)

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. intelligence officials believe Osama bin Laden made a propaganda recording shortly before his death and expect that tape to surface soon.

It is unclear whether the tape is audio or video, but a U.S. official says that intelligence indicates it is already working its way through al-Qaida's media pipeline. The official said the timing was coincidental and there is no indication he knew U.S. forces were bearing down on him.

A new recording from bin Laden would provide a final word from the beyond grave for a terrorist who taunted the U.S. with recorded propaganda for years. It could also provide fodder to those who insist he is still alive.

So it isn't really the final video. Maybe someday...I would pay good money for the head cam vid.

I wonder when his "Greatest Hits"  CD will surface .
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Sectionhand on May 03, 2011, 04:58:54 AM

Well if we'd followed their example, he wouldn't have had a head to point towards Mecca. If it makes them feel any better, they can imagine that he will soon be distributed amongst several shark turds pointing towards Mecca.

Quite right . And in the future , when speaking of Osama Bin Laden , the term "Fish Feces" will replace the use of his surname .
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Sectionhand on May 03, 2011, 05:08:14 AM
It will be only a matter of weeks before we see  "Osama Bin Laden Body Parts" in jars of formaldehyde for sale on EBay ... "Osama's Trigger Finger" , "Osama's Left Ball" (blue) , "Osama's Penis" (remarkably small) , etc. 
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Libertas on May 03, 2011, 06:49:54 AM
And in all these pages of the thread, let us take a moment to recognize the US NAVY for waxing that son of a bitch!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch1UAXp8h8Q&feature=player_embedded

Yeah I'm just a little bit biased, dad is a Navy vet and his dad before him rode amphibious landing craft into Japanese machine gun fire. Go Navy!

 ::thumbsup::

They did good, no going in soft, they went in hard!

 ::USA::

Good article here fleshes out some more details of Op -

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42858824/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden//?GT1=43001 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42858824/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden//?GT1=43001)

Hopefully the data we collected can help us...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54151.html (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54151.html)

...especially in snuffing this punk ass bitch!

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=931&sid=2366696&pid=0&page=1 (http://www.wtop.com/?nid=931&sid=2366696&pid=0&page=1)

 ::rockets::

 ;)
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: ToddF on May 03, 2011, 07:27:20 AM
Alrighty, this ain't gonna work the regular way (been flagged as "adult" and needs an account to watch...no thanks)

Watch it through Hot Air (http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/02/video-taiwanese-animators-imagine-bin-ladens-death/)

Yes, those wacky Taiwanese have the first video out of S**tholistan of Obam, er Osama's last moments.  ::rockets::  ::USA::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: ToddF on May 03, 2011, 07:35:57 AM
And yes, Vince Flynn thinks the whole operation sounds like one of his books, also.  ::USA::

Pretty interesting listen, driving home

http://1500espn.com/ondemand/download.php?audioID=8633 (http://1500espn.com/ondemand/download.php?audioID=8633)

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Libertas on May 03, 2011, 07:50:35 AM
The Pak military and possibly the ISI was protecting him, now, wtf did UBL have to give in order to earn this protection?  what kind of deal did they have?

And now, check this out, looks like he could have been in Pakistan for 5-6 years!

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/bin-laden-lived-pakistan-compound-5-6-years-114333796.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/bin-laden-lived-pakistan-compound-5-6-years-114333796.html)

The  ::cussing:: Pak's are dirty as hell over this thing!

You know wtf I would do next?

Snag & Bag that bastard Musharraf and roast his nuts over a fire to find out what he knows!
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Dan on May 03, 2011, 07:54:51 AM
Don't know if it's been remarked, but how many people are now saying "What Birth Certificate?"

There is nothing that disturbs me more than knowing this happened on this sh*tbags watch. To see him even get an honorable mention is sickening. Didn't this info come from sources he never would have had available if things were done his way?

A great and impressive raid, an operation for the books, for sure, and my  disappointment over the political angle is drastically overshadowed by the lack of US casualties. The way it should be when the leash is off.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: RickZ on May 03, 2011, 08:05:18 AM
Snag & Bag that bastard Musharraf and roast his nuts over a fire to find out what he knows!

Last night on Hannity, I caught someone from the Bush Administration (can't remember who) saying he felt Musharraf was a straight shooter.  The interviewee made the point that he had had three (or more) assassination attempts against his life.  The interviewee said that no doubt the ISI were heavily involved in protecting Bin Laden, but that with the way the power structure works in Pakistan, Musharraf was battling those in his own government as well as outside forces like the Taliban.

Personally, I always thought of Musharraf as a voice of reason, given the other options in that geographic area.  I think his bleating now about our taking out OBL in Pakistani territory must, IMHO, be viewed in this context.  If Musharraf wants to have any credibility in Pakistan, he has to make a stink, as I think anyone in any country would make a stink when their territorial borders are violated as we did in the recent kill operation.  I'm not saying we did the wrong thing, not at all, I'm saying that we'd be pissed off if Mexico took out some cartel operatives here in the States without any sort of notification/approval/coordination.  Our Government and its agencies are becoming as trustworthy as Pakistan's, and that is not a good thing.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: John Florida on May 03, 2011, 08:26:25 AM
Screw him he was taking money from both sides.But in his world it business as usual. That's why I have always been against money for those nations.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: michelleo on May 03, 2011, 10:33:45 AM
 That courier was identified and traced on a phone call that was wiretapped by US intelligence.    While we don't know if the call was coming from inside the US or outside the US, one could make a case that if that key call were coming from inside the US and if the warrant process had gotten in the way, that call would have been missed without warrantless wiretapping authorization, and UBL would still be at large.
Vindication for warrantless wiretapping.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Libertas on May 03, 2011, 10:40:31 AM
As for Musharraf, fine, if he puts us onto the key contacts in the ISI (and elsewhere) that are dirty then he should be doing that without us having to sweat it out of him!  If he wants to provide that info through cut outs, fine, do it!  Since he isn't, I'll snag & bag whoever the hell I want to get the info I need!

As for vindication, there is plenty for GWB's WOT policies...Obama would have no Osama without Dubbya!

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Jihadi%20and%20Muslim/Remora.jpg)
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 03, 2011, 10:45:42 AM
...Vindication for warrantless wiretapping.

This whole operation is a vindication of those very aspects of the George W. Bush foreign policy against which the Left railed so incessantly. When President Bush says he's comfortable allowing history to be his judge, and that he's not too worried about how his policies regarding the GWOT are viewed in the here-and-now, I think he really means it. He knows what he knows about the enemy we face in radical Islam, and in his mind, he did what needed to be done, no more or less.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: michelleo on May 03, 2011, 11:10:56 AM
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Jihadi%20and%20Muslim/Remora.jpg)

 ::rolllaughing:: ::rolllaughing:: ::rolllaughing::

Especially love the sucker fish. ::mooning::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Libertas on May 03, 2011, 11:14:40 AM
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/libertasinfinitio/Jihadi%20and%20Muslim/Remora.jpg)

 ::rolllaughing:: ::rolllaughing:: ::rolllaughing::

Especially love the sucker fish. ::mooning::

Yes, Obama aka Remora!
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: tjking on May 03, 2011, 11:53:38 AM
Hearing Obama's narcissistic self edifying way of congratulating the one person responsible for the successful mission, which was his, which is to say, it was his strategy, and solely his and carried out by him,.... reminds me of the old Monty Python skit, regarding the theory on Brontosauruses.

http://youtu.be/cAYDiPizDIs


Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 03, 2011, 03:45:22 PM
I don't know what you guys are talking about.

Obama figured out where OBL was without any help from anyone. He just thought it up.

Then, after he ordered the assassination squad into position, he pulled the trigger himself by way of astral projection.

Beginning to end this was an all Obama operation and he deserves all of the credit for everything...investigation, development and even execution of the plan. His brilliance is such that there are days when he outshines the sun.

Seriously though...


Did anyone catch the part in his self congratulatory speech where he said this...

[blockquote]Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body.[/blockquote]
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: hemm on May 03, 2011, 03:50:14 PM
I don't know what you guys are talking about.

Obama figured out where OBL was without any help from anyone. He just thought it up.

Then, after he ordered the assassination squad into position, he pulled the trigger himself by way of astral projection.

Beginning to end this was an all Obama operation and he deserves all of the credit for everything...investigation, development and even execution of the plan. His brilliance is such that there are days when he outshines the sun.

Seriously though...


Did anyone catch the part in his self congratulatory speech where he said this...

[blockquote]Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body.[/blockquote]

I read someplace about how many self references he had in the obl is dead speech......again, not surprised because its all. about. him.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 03, 2011, 04:12:15 PM
Quote
By Michael Muskal
 
Los Angeles Times
 
May 3, 2011, 11:33 a.m.
The death of terrorist leader Osama bin Laden in a U.S. raid in Pakistan has helped President Obama’s standing with the public, according to overnight polls released on Tuesday.

The president’s overall approval rating jumped upward nine points to 56%, according to a survey released by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press and the Washington Post.
<snip>
 third poll shows that Americans have more faith in Obama as commander in chief, which could translate into political support. The USA Today/Gallup poll found that 32% said they feel more confident in Obama as commander while 21% said they feel a little more confident. Some 39% in the Ipsos-Reuters poll said that their view of Obama’s leadership had improved in the wake of the raid.
<snip>
Pew and CNN polls noted that Obama’s rating on how he is handling the economy has brought down the overall numbers. Pew found that 40% of those surveyed approved of how the president has handled the economic issues while 55% disapprove, about the same as in April. CNN noted that the president’s approval rating on the economy had slipped three points while his approval on national security issues rose.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-bin-laden-death-obama-polls-20110503,0,807194.story (http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-bin-laden-death-obama-polls-20110503,0,807194.story)

"which could translate into political support"-- in their dreams
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Predator Don on May 03, 2011, 04:32:28 PM
Quote
By Michael Muskal
 
Los Angeles Times
 
May 3, 2011, 11:33 a.m.
The death of terrorist leader Osama bin Laden in a U.S. raid in Pakistan has helped President Obama’s standing with the public, according to overnight polls released on Tuesday.

The president’s overall approval rating jumped upward nine points to 56%, according to a survey released by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press and the Washington Post.
<snip>
 third poll shows that Americans have more faith in Obama as commander in chief, which could translate into political support. The USA Today/Gallup poll found that 32% said they feel more confident in Obama as commander while 21% said they feel a little more confident. Some 39% in the Ipsos-Reuters poll said that their view of Obama’s leadership had improved in the wake of the raid.
<snip>
Pew and CNN polls noted that Obama’s rating on how he is handling the economy has brought down the overall numbers. Pew found that 40% of those surveyed approved of how the president has handled the economic issues while 55% disapprove, about the same as in April. CNN noted that the president’s approval rating on the economy had slipped three points while his approval on national security issues rose.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-bin-laden-death-obama-polls-20110503,0,807194.story (http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-bin-laden-death-obama-polls-20110503,0,807194.story)

"which could translate into political support"-- in their dreams

I would like to know the sampling of those polled. Normally, polls are skewed to include more dems than repubs. Massaging the results.

Hard leftists do not like the death. Probably not polled. Many see it as a vindication of policies obama opposed initally, so I can't see this group having any more confidence......Who is left?
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 03, 2011, 07:39:34 PM
That courier was identified and traced on a phone call that was wiretapped by US intelligence.    While we don't know if the call was coming from inside the US or outside the US, one could make a case that if that key call were coming from inside the US and if the warrant process had gotten in the way, that call would have been missed without warrantless wiretapping authorization, and UBL would still be at large.
Vindication for warrantless wiretapping.

Every tactical win by HisHighness has been achieved because of the previous administration's strategic actions.
 
BUSH DID IT!........BUSH DID IT!.........BUSH DID IT!.........BUSH DID IT!


Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: michelleo on May 03, 2011, 08:15:38 PM
I don't know what you guys are talking about.

Obama figured out where OBL was without any help from anyone. He just thought it up.

Then, after he ordered the assassination squad into position, he pulled the trigger himself by way of astral projection.

Beginning to end this was an all Obama operation and he deserves all of the credit for everything...investigation, development and even execution of the plan. His brilliance is such that there are days when he outshines the sun.

Howard Fineman says "President Barack Obama just proved himself -- vividly, in almost Biblical terms..."

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/05/03/fineman-killing-bin-laden-obama-proved-almost-biblical-terms-hes-effe#ixzz1LLGImg4O (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/05/03/fineman-killing-bin-laden-obama-proved-almost-biblical-terms-hes-effe#ixzz1LLGImg4O)


I guess that settles it. ::gaah::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: michelleo on May 03, 2011, 08:23:23 PM
The facts of the actual takedown seem to be changing by the hour.  Soon the story will morph into something like this:

Barack Obama - Greatest American Hero
Greatest American Hero Intro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Q3orQhEcA#)
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 03, 2011, 08:49:20 PM
Hell, if they can figure out a way to do it they'll make bin Laden the greatest American hero before it's all said and done. Watching these people literally trip over themselves and drool at the prospect of turning this in to a reversal of fortune for the Chimpanzee in Chief is really something to behold.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 03, 2011, 10:00:56 PM

Hard leftists do not like the death. Probably not polled. Many see it as a vindication of policies obama opposed initally, so I can't see this group having any more confidence......Who is left?

I don't know but they always seem to find some ::whatgives::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: michelleo on May 03, 2011, 10:38:21 PM
My big concern is that they'll make every effort to downplay the heroism of the soldiers involved.  Remember the rescue of Jessica Lynch? The guys on Flight 93 over Shanksville - "let's roll!"?
I'm sorry but those guys who rappelled into Osama's compound are the baddest bad-a$$es on the planet.  There is no way those disgusting libtards are going to change that.  ::USA::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 03, 2011, 11:04:00 PM
My big concern is that they'll make every effort to downplay the heroism of the soldiers involved.  Remember the rescue of Jessica Lynch? The guys on Flight 93 over Shanksville - "let's roll!"?
I'm sorry but those guys who rappelled into Osama's compound are the baddest bad-a$$es on the planet.  There is no way those disgusting libtards are going to change that.  ::USA::

 ::thumbsup::

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 03, 2011, 11:05:31 PM
Hell, if they can figure out a way to do it they'll make bin Laden the greatest American hero before it's all said and done. Watching these people literally trip over themselves and drool at the prospect of turning this in to a reversal of fortune for the Chimpanzee in Chief is really something to behold.

 ::deercorn::


theater of the absurb is on everyday with this crowd
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: BigAlSouth on May 04, 2011, 07:59:40 AM
. . .
I'm sorry but those guys who rappelled into Osama's compound are the baddest bad-a$$es on the planet. 

True dat.

I would just add professional bad asses.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 04, 2011, 08:17:15 AM
Great article (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2069327,00.html#ixzz1LKFS8GEw) about the kids in the classroom where GWB got the news about the towers being hit. Now in their junior year at high school, not a one of them had anything but praise for Bush and hatred for OBL.

The MFM lost this battle, it seems.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Pandora on May 04, 2011, 09:27:34 AM
I read that, trap.  Most excellent, not the least of which is GW is vindicated for the seven minutes delay that the lousy left chose to denigrate him with.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Libertas on May 04, 2011, 09:31:54 AM
"Today, when we talk about 9/11 in class and you hear kids make mistakes about what happened with the President that day, I can tell them they're wrong. Because I was there."

 ::thumbsup::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 04, 2011, 09:38:14 AM
There were two reasonable reasons given for GWBs behavior. One was that he didn't want to scare the children. The other was that they needed a few minutes to prep the chopper. Neither fit the MFMs narrative that GWB was stupid.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 04, 2011, 09:46:27 AM
Quote
"Today, when we talk about 9/11 in class and you hear kids make mistakes about what happened with the President that day, I can tell them they're wrong. Because I was there."

 ::thumbsup::

just when I think there's no hope.....
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 04, 2011, 12:07:58 PM

It's interesting Time would publish such an article.  Is this a tell?

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Pandora on May 04, 2011, 12:41:13 PM
(http://mostlycajun.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/C+F-binladen.jpg)

...... from Cox & Forkum Oct. 8 2001, found here (http://mostlycajun.com/wordpress/?p=13692).

 
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Pandora on May 04, 2011, 02:06:15 PM
Whatever giant brain thought up the name "Operation Geronimo" for taking out bin Laden is now the target for some major sht from whatever Indian (feather, not dot) tribe claims offense, according to the "news".
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: John Florida on May 04, 2011, 03:13:32 PM
Whatever giant brain thought up the name "Operation Geronimo" for taking out bin Laden is now the target for some major sht from whatever Indian (feather, not dot) tribe claims offense, according to the "news".

 All they want is attention. They can get over it or not it's up to them. I stopped giving a crap a long time ago. Every "special" group wants to be offended at all times.I think people know the damned difference between the Feather Geronimo and UBL.
Title: Sen Brown (MA) The bin Laden death photo I've seen is not authentic
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 04, 2011, 03:17:23 PM
(FOX 25 / MyFoxBoston.com) - UPDATE: Scott Brown tells FOX25 - "The photo that I saw and that a lot of other people saw is not authentic." (http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/morning/sen-scott-brown-on-attack-ad-bin-laden-20110504)


Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: BigAlSouth on May 04, 2011, 03:21:23 PM
here (http://mostlycajun.com/wordpress/?p=13692).

 

The "Eye for an Eye" in the link was absolutely awesome. Kinda sums up his last thought: "Oh shi . . .".
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 04, 2011, 03:42:15 PM
The pics that Reuters released of the kill scene (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/04/us-binladen-pakistan-photos-idUSTRE74370620110504) are, well, lots of blood and one or two guys at room temp.

I gotta believe that despite Toonces claim to the contrary, it is only a matter of time  before the OBL death pic goes public. Where's that wikileak pussy when he's actually needed?
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Thresherman on May 04, 2011, 03:47:43 PM
We are seeing the Obama two step, he goes on record as opposing its release and then somehow it leaks out.  Why be forced to make a decision when you can have it both ways?
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: trapeze on May 04, 2011, 04:01:26 PM
Well, they are saying that they are not going to release the OBL death pic and so far that has not, in fact, been released.

But they said they were never going to release the BC either and eventually it came out.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Thresherman on May 04, 2011, 04:05:21 PM
I'm saying that Obama will stay on record as opposing its release and if that becomes unpopular, suddenly the NYT will have it leaked to them by some low level staffer who normally would not have access to it unless Obama wanted it leaked.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: John Florida on May 04, 2011, 04:13:14 PM
I'm saying that Obama will stay on record as opposing its release and if that becomes unpopular, suddenly the NYT will have it leaked to them by some low level staffer who normally would not have access to it unless Obama wanted it leaked.

 Like I said those pictures will come out closer to the election when they feel we need reminding.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 04, 2011, 06:06:12 PM

When they come out, what ever you do, DON'T BURN THEM!

Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: LadyVirginia on May 04, 2011, 10:06:20 PM



This came from JJ's comment over at the bookwormroom.com  (http://bookwormroom.com) and I thought it was pretty good:
Quote
Okay, what do we have here.
 1) There was a firefight.
 2) There was no firefight.
 3) Bin Laden was “resisting.”
 4) Bin Laden wasn’t armed.  (Makes the concept of “resisting” interesting.)
 5) He used his wife as a shield.
 6) His wife was killed too.
 7) He didn’t use his wife as a shield, she ran at a SEAL who shot her in the leg, but she’s fine.
 Some other woman – the maid? – was used as a shield.  By somebody.  Downstairs.
 9) That other woman – downstairs – was killed.
 10) Maybe not.  She was killed unless she wasn’t – and who was she, anyway?
 11) Bin Laden’s son was killed.
 12) Unless it was some other guy.
 13) Bin Laden’s daughter saw him get killed.  She’s undoubtedly traumatized, poor dear.
 14) They were going to capture Bin Laden until the problem with the helicopter, which was:
 A) It had mechanical trouble
 B) It did a hard landing
 C) It crashed
 D) It clipped a wall with a tail rotor, effectively a crash
 15.) They were never going to try to capture him, it was always a kill mission.
 16.) No it wasn’t.
 17) The chopper blew up.
 18) The SEALs blew it up.
 19.) Panetta said yesterday the world needed proof, the photo would be released.
 20.) Obama said today in an interview he taped with Steve Kroft for “60 Minutes” to be broadcast Sunday that it won’t be released.  It’s too gruesome, would offend Muslim sensibilities (something he worries about a lot – I personally do not give a warm fart on a wet Wednesday about Muslim sensibilities), and how would Americans feel if Muslims released pictures of dead Americans?
 21.) Kroft – whose not a total idiot – pointed out that ever since “Black Hawk Down” days, Muslims have been doing precisely that, filming American bodies being dragged through the streets, filming Daniel Pearl’s head being cut off, filming any and everything.
 22) Obama gets pissed at CBS, the tape gets cleaned up, that question disappears. (Inside info.)
 23.) We got a “treasure trove” of stuff from hard drives, etc.
 24.) There were no phone lines, and no internet access at the “mansion,” they didn’t even have TV – what “treasure trove?”
 25.) There is obviously in the pictures of the place a large satellite dish.  I guess they used it for making salads.
 26.) And now, just today: apparently the idea was to capture him, but only if he was naked.  There was a suspicion he might be wearing a suicide bomber type explosive vest, or belt.  So if he’s not naked and you can’t see if he has a vest on or not – shoot him.
 
 The idiot Carney – they actually managed to find someone who makes Gibbs look good – is currently twisting himself into knots trying to explain why the photograph that the whole world was expecting isn’t going to be released.  (Obviously the thing to do is get Trump on the case, he’ll force Obama to release it.)
 
 The military did great, the administration – or whatever that bunch is, kind of like “The Little Rascals” – have managed to turn it into spaghetti.  The story has changed so many times in the course of a mere three days it’s a joke – the world would be better off if Panetta had left the little sh*twit on the golf course.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: IronDioPriest on May 04, 2011, 10:12:15 PM
One quibble with the above: Kroft is a total idiot.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: John Florida on May 04, 2011, 10:13:51 PM
And tonight on O'riely thy had a clip of Clinton saying that Pakistan helped get UBL and Panneta saying that Pakistan government knew nothing about it.


  Transparency gotta love it.UBL is alive and in the CIA head quarters in Iraq. ::saywhat::
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: charlesoakwood on May 04, 2011, 10:24:20 PM

There is also the second wife, a Yemenie,  who was a gift to him in 2000.
She was involved in this thing too.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: Sectionhand on May 05, 2011, 04:33:52 AM
I'd like to remind the Jackass In Chief that in "the distant past" when Americans were more "sensitive" , photos of Goering's corpse , Himmler's corpse , Goebbel's corpse , and the corpses of every executed Nazi war criminal were widely published ( some on the front page of the New York Times ) and Hitler's would have been too if they could have found it !

The blush is swiftly coming off the rose regarding this operation and Stymie can take credit for THAT too !
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: RickZ on May 05, 2011, 06:11:22 AM
The blush is swiftly coming off the rose regarding this operation and Stymie can take credit for THAT too !

The blush may be coming off the rose but the fumes from the compost pile are spreading.
Title: Re: Toonces Makes Late Night National Address (Bin Laden Is DEAD)
Post by: John Florida on May 05, 2011, 08:58:56 AM
Now they're saying that somebody got taken out alive and that the Helo.is in Pakistaaaani hands and not blown up is the impression I got this morning.WTF is the truth anyway.

 Now we have a little clarity,the tail rotor didn't blow up the rest is gone.